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We have/had a peach tree that stopped blooming and leafing. We assumed it
was dead.
We didn't cut it down but have used it to hang a bird feeder on. Anyway I
was out in the
garden today and noticed a tree like growth, meaning it is twig like but
bigger than twigs
but smaller than a tree, a couple of feet away from the old peach tree with
blooms and leafing. That twig/tree like
growth has NEVER been there before! Do peach trees send out feeders? (I
think that is
what it is called). I can post a picture if needed. It is getting dark right
now so it will have to be
tomorrow. Until than anyone have any ideas what or if it could be a 'baby'
peach tree?

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On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 02:05:51 GMT, "Goldlexus"
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We have/had a peach tree that stopped blooming and leafing. We assumed it
was dead.
We didn't cut it down but have used it to hang a bird feeder on. Anyway I
was out in the
garden today and noticed a tree like growth, meaning it is twig like but
bigger than twigs
but smaller than a tree, a couple of feet away from the old peach tree with
blooms and leafing. That twig/tree like
growth has NEVER been there before! Do peach trees send out feeders? (I
think that is
what it is called). I can post a picture if needed. It is getting dark right
now so it will have to be
tomorrow. Until than anyone have any ideas what or if it could be a 'baby'
peach tree?


Photos are always good to see, but peach trees are not spread by
runners. I have them coming up all over, but from the peach pit which
contains a seed. Most fruit trees are grafted onto different root
stock, so a tree from seed may not produce, but you are saying it has
flowers. Post a photo.
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It is possible that the peach tree root system has put out new growth away from
the
original tree. My question would be is the original peach tree a grafted one,
or not.
If it is not grafted, it might be a viable way to propagate the original tree.
If the original peach tree was grafted onto some rootstock, you will not get
back the same
peach variety you started with.

Sherwin D.

Goldlexus wrote:

We have/had a peach tree that stopped blooming and leafing. We assumed it
was dead.
We didn't cut it down but have used it to hang a bird feeder on. Anyway I
was out in the
garden today and noticed a tree like growth, meaning it is twig like but
bigger than twigs
but smaller than a tree, a couple of feet away from the old peach tree with
blooms and leafing. That twig/tree like
growth has NEVER been there before! Do peach trees send out feeders? (I
think that is
what it is called). I can post a picture if needed. It is getting dark right
now so it will have to be
tomorrow. Until than anyone have any ideas what or if it could be a 'baby'
peach tree?


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Goldlexus wrote:
We have/had a peach tree that stopped blooming and leafing. We assumed it
was dead.
We didn't cut it down but have used it to hang a bird feeder on. Anyway I
was out in the
garden today and noticed a tree like growth, meaning it is twig like but
bigger than twigs
but smaller than a tree, a couple of feet away from the old peach tree with
blooms and leafing. That twig/tree like
growth has NEVER been there before! Do peach trees send out feeders? (I
think that is
what it is called). I can post a picture if needed. It is getting dark right
now so it will have to be
tomorrow. Until than anyone have any ideas what or if it could be a 'baby'
peach tree?


Sometimes, fruit will drop unnoticed. The pit will sprout. Peaches do
not "bear true" from seed, so what you get from a seedling is a gamble.
I had a friend who got very nice fruit from a seedling, but it
definitely was not any named variety.

Even with the best care, peach trees are productive for very long. In
my climate, peaches specially developed for mild winters may be
productive only 10-15 years. In cold-winter areas, that might be 15-20
years.

My recommendation would be to remove the dead tree and the seedling.
Have the stump of the old tree ground out so that you can plant a new
peach tree in its place. Within about three years, you will start
getting a nice crop of your chosen variety. (Yes, it is safe to plant a
new peach tree exactly where an old peach tree had been growing.)

--
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Climate: California Mediterranean
Sunset Zone: 21 -- interior Santa Monica Mountains with some ocean
influence (USDA 10a, very close to Sunset Zone 19)
Gardening pages at http://www.rossde.com/garden/
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Below are a few links to pictures of the 'tree'. They aren't that good but
hopefully you can figure out
what it is. The blooms are towards the top mostly but it has leaf buds all
over.
We have lived here for 4 years, the tree was already here. When we moved in
the old peach tree only had leaves at the top and nothing towards the
bottom. It didn't have any fruit. We cut the top off cause it arched way
over to the neighbors yard. It never bloomed or leafed since. Now we find
this blooming/leafing tree like plant next to the old peach tree! Go figure.
If is is not a runner from the peach tree what the heck is it?
RUNNER is the word I was thinking of when I said 'feeder', glad you give me
the proper term...Thanks!
Anyway, here are the links:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y26...hTree2007c.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y26...hTree2007b.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y26...hTree2007a.jpg

I am really interested in hearing what you all think.

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On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 02:05:51 GMT, "Goldlexus"
wrote:

We have/had a peach tree that stopped blooming and leafing. We assumed it
was dead.
We didn't cut it down but have used it to hang a bird feeder on. Anyway I
was out in the
garden today and noticed a tree like growth, meaning it is twig like but
bigger than twigs
but smaller than a tree, a couple of feet away from the old peach tree
with
blooms and leafing. That twig/tree like
growth has NEVER been there before! Do peach trees send out feeders? (I
think that is
what it is called). I can post a picture if needed. It is getting dark
right
now so it will have to be
tomorrow. Until than anyone have any ideas what or if it could be a 'baby'
peach tree?


Photos are always good to see, but peach trees are not spread by
runners. I have them coming up all over, but from the peach pit which
contains a seed. Most fruit trees are grafted onto different root
stock, so a tree from seed may not produce, but you are saying it has
flowers. Post a photo.




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A little word about peach trees. They do not tolerate proper pruning well
let alone improper pruning.
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...ach/index.html

For much more on pruning:
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/tree_pruning


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Arborist
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and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.


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We have/had a peach tree that stopped blooming and leafing. We assumed it
was dead.
We didn't cut it down but have used it to hang a bird feeder on. Anyway I
was out in the
garden today and noticed a tree like growth, meaning it is twig like but
bigger than twigs
but smaller than a tree, a couple of feet away from the old peach tree
with blooms and leafing. That twig/tree like
growth has NEVER been there before! Do peach trees send out feeders? (I
think that is
what it is called). I can post a picture if needed. It is getting dark
right now so it will have to be
tomorrow. Until than anyone have any ideas what or if it could be a 'baby'
peach tree?



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symplastless wrote:
A little word about peach trees. They do not tolerate proper pruning well
let alone improper pruning.
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...ach/index.html

For much more on pruning:
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/tree_pruning



I'm not sure what you mean by "They do not tolerate proper pruning
well". All stone fruits respond well to pruning. Peaches require heavy
pruning.

The convention is to remove growth equal to 2/3 of what grew during the
previous spring and summer. Ideally, you remove old growth and keep new
growth. However, new growth should be headed, at least removing the
final inch of each new branch or twig; this keeps the branch from
growing any longer and promotes new branch formation.

Failure to prune a peach thoroughly before flowering will result in more
fruit this year but a reduced crop next year. It also increases the
risk of branches breaking when they set too much fruit unless you thin
the immature fruit more aggressively than if the tree were pruned.

--
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean
Sunset Zone: 21 -- interior Santa Monica Mountains with some ocean
influence (USDA 10a, very close to Sunset Zone 19)
Gardening pages at http://www.rossde.com/garden/
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No, peaches require fine pruning.
The pictures here show the internal response to proper pruning.
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...ach/index.html

The more color-altered wood (dead symplast) the less place for the tree to
store energy such as starch which is only stored in living parenchyma cells.
This would reduce the trees capacity for defense. This is why they have
short life disease of peaches. The only way you will understand this is by
dissecting trees and seeing for yourself.

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.





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symplastless wrote:
A little word about peach trees. They do not tolerate proper pruning
well
let alone improper pruning.
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...ach/index.html

For much more on pruning:
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/tree_pruning



I'm not sure what you mean by "They do not tolerate proper pruning
well". All stone fruits respond well to pruning. Peaches require heavy
pruning.

The convention is to remove growth equal to 2/3 of what grew during the
previous spring and summer. Ideally, you remove old growth and keep new
growth. However, new growth should be headed, at least removing the
final inch of each new branch or twig; this keeps the branch from
growing any longer and promotes new branch formation.

Failure to prune a peach thoroughly before flowering will result in more
fruit this year but a reduced crop next year. It also increases the
risk of branches breaking when they set too much fruit unless you thin
the immature fruit more aggressively than if the tree were pruned.

--
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean
Sunset Zone: 21 -- interior Santa Monica Mountains with some ocean
influence (USDA 10a, very close to Sunset Zone 19)
Gardening pages at http://www.rossde.com/garden/



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