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enigma wrote:

Billy wrote in

ct.net.au:

Going just a tad OT, can you recommend any introductory
book for spinning and weaving?

i took a class, but i've been usingTeach Yourself Visually:
Handspinning by Judith MacKenzie McCuin.
it covers both hand spindles & wheels.
hint: if you decide to start with a hand spindle, get one
that has a bit of weight but not too heavy.
what type of weaving are you interested in? loom? tapestry?
fingerweaving (sometimes called braids)? inkle loom? i can
give you better suggestions if i know what you want to do.
lee

At this point Im thinking serapes, blankets, rugs, and then robes and
jackets. I'm not counting on doing cotton sheets;-)
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(paghat) wrote:

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Billy wrote:

Going just a tad OT, can you recommend any introductory book for
spinning and weaving?

Jeff Herton's book will help:
http://www.readerviews.com/InterviewHerten.html

-paghat the ratgirl

Thank you.
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"Billy" wrote in message news:wildbilly-

Going just a tad OT, can you recommend any introductory book for
spinning and weaving?

You can find lots of books on spinning and weaving at:
http://www.interweave.com/books/

But the ones I would recommend as being well written, simple, easily
followed, universally applicable and relatively cheap second hand are those
by Anne Field. She has written the "Ashford book of Spinning" and the
"Ashford book of Weaving" - you can see reader's reviews here, but buy on
ebay or at ABE books which list a lot of them second hand.
http://www.amazon.com/Ashford-Book-S.../dp/0806955961

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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message news:wildbilly-

Going just a tad OT, can you recommend any introductory book for
spinning and weaving?

You can find lots of books on spinning and weaving at:
http://www.interweave.com/books/

But the ones I would recommend as being well written, simple, easily
followed, universally applicable and relatively cheap second hand are those
by Anne Field. She has written the "Ashford book of Spinning" and the
"Ashford book of Weaving" - you can see reader's reviews here, but buy on
ebay or at ABE books which list a lot of them second hand.
http://www.amazon.com/Ashford-Book-S.../dp/0806955961

Thank you kindly.
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(paghat) wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

Going just a tad OT, can you recommend any introductory book for
spinning and weaving?

Jeff Herton's book will help:
http://www.readerviews.com/InterviewHerten.html

-paghat the ratgirl

Ratgirl, thanks for wasting my time (sarcasm).

--
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Billy
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/

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Billy wrote:

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(paghat) wrote:

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,
Billy wrote:

Going just a tad OT, can you recommend any introductory book for
spinning and weaving?

Jeff Herton's book will help:
http://www.readerviews.com/InterviewHerten.html

-paghat the ratgirl

Ratgirl, thanks for wasting my time (sarcasm).

OK, if I hadn't been in a rush it would have been amusing, but I was and
it wasn't.

I looked for Ashford book of Spinning. An odd experience that, I found
it it from $4 (bad condition) to $240 (that must come with the spinning
wheel, which is what the book is for). Thanks Farml.

Have you seen http://www.zombo.com/ ? Wait for the opening screen to
fade out.

In other news, I requested Handspinning by Judith MacKenzie McCuin from
the library. It was very odd. The wasn't any line (queue as the case
may be) for the book. Thank you again Lee.
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"Billy" wrote in message

I looked for Ashford book of Spinning. An odd experience that, I found
it it from $4 (bad condition) to $240 (that must come with the spinning
wheel, which is what the book is for). Thanks Farml.

Just because it is has "The Ashford" in the title, don't make the mistake of
thinking that the info it contains is applicable only to the Ashford wheels
or drop spindles. It's a good book as is the one on weaving.

Have you seen http://www.zombo.com/ ? Wait for the opening screen to
fade out.

What does it do? All I got was the "welcome to Zombo com" verbal message
and then 2 tiny options which, when I tried to select either of them, just
resulted in a rerun of the verbal message.

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,
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message

I looked for Ashford book of Spinning. An odd experience that, I found
it it from $4 (bad condition) to $240 (that must come with the spinning
wheel, which is what the book is for). Thanks Farml.

Just because it is has "The Ashford" in the title, don't make the mistake of
thinking that the info it contains is applicable only to the Ashford wheels
or drop spindles. It's a good book as is the one on weaving.

Have you seen http://www.zombo.com/ ? Wait for the opening screen to
fade out.

What does it do? All I got was the "welcome to Zombo com" verbal message
and then 2 tiny options which, when I tried to select either of them, just
resulted in a rerun of the verbal message.

I'm sure that the "Ashford book of Spinning" is a good book but it was
my impression that it was written with an Ashford spinning wheel in
mind. The book, paperback, used, averaged $30 - $40 and the local
library doesn't have a copy. I looked into the price of an Ashford
spinning wheel and no web site would quote one. At that point I lost
interest.

You can thank JoeSB for turning me on to zombo.com. Pretty neat site
isn't it?
--

Billy

Impeach Pelosi, Bush & Cheney to the Hague
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/
http://rachelcorriefoundation.org/

Billy wrote in

ct.net.au:

I'm sure that the "Ashford book of Spinning" is a good book
but it was my impression that it was written with an
Ashford spinning wheel in mind. The book, paperback, used,
averaged $30 - $40 and the local library doesn't have a
copy. I looked into the price of an Ashford spinning wheel
and no web site would quote one. At that point I lost
interest.

Ashfords are expensive, but like all good tools, you get what
you pay for.
that said, my wheel is a Robin, built by some guy in Maine.

if you can't find the Ashford book, try looking for the Alden
Amos Big Book of Handspinning, Interweave Press 2001. mine
cost $40 new (at Borders)
http://www.interweave.com/spin/books/alden_amos.asp

You can thank JoeSB for turning me on to zombo.com. Pretty
neat site isn't it?

i let it try to load for 10 minutes & got really tired of the
"welcome to zombo.com. you have reached zombo.com. zombo.com.
welcome to zombo.com...."
so what does it *do*?
lee
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enigma wrote:

Billy wrote in

ct.net.au:

I'm sure that the "Ashford book of Spinning" is a good book
but it was my impression that it was written with an
Ashford spinning wheel in mind. The book, paperback, used,
averaged $30 - $40 and the local library doesn't have a
copy. I looked into the price of an Ashford spinning wheel
and no web site would quote one. At that point I lost
interest.

Ashfords are expensive, but like all good tools, you get what
you pay for.
that said, my wheel is a Robin, built by some guy in Maine.

if you can't find the Ashford book, try looking for the Alden
Amos Big Book of Handspinning, Interweave Press 2001. mine
cost $40 new (at Borders)
http://www.interweave.com/spin/books/alden_amos.asp

You can thank JoeSB for turning me on to zombo.com. Pretty
neat site isn't it?

i let it try to load for 10 minutes & got really tired of the
"welcome to zombo.com. you have reached zombo.com. zombo.com.
welcome to zombo.com...."
so what does it *do*?
lee

Lee

Ever get the book on Dye Plants?

Bill

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Bill wrote in

news.net:

Ever get the book on Dye Plants?

yes, i just got it. thank you! i really like how it's "bound".
that's handy when you want it to stay open.
some of the listed plants aren't native here, but quite a few
are or aren't that uncommon as garden plants, so i should get
some use out of it. it should be interesting to see if i get
the same colors on the common weed types, because soil & water
pH affect the dye colors from plant materials
yesterday the kid & i dyed some yarn with cake frosting
dyes... oh my, bright colors. yellow, spring green, sky blue &
violet... makes the walnut hull dyed yarn look a bit drab
lee
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In article ,
enigma wrote:

Bill wrote in

news.net:

Ever get the book on Dye Plants?

yes, i just got it. thank you! i really like how it's "bound".
that's handy when you want it to stay open.
some of the listed plants aren't native here, but quite a few
are or aren't that uncommon as garden plants, so i should get
some use out of it. it should be interesting to see if i get
the same colors on the common weed types, because soil & water
pH affect the dye colors from plant materials
yesterday the kid & i dyed some yarn with cake frosting
dyes... oh my, bright colors. yellow, spring green, sky blue &
violet... makes the walnut hull dyed yarn look a bit drab
lee

Seems like the info went to the right place.

Good !

Bill

--
Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA

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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"Billy" wrote in message

I looked for Ashford book of Spinning. An odd experience that, I found
it it from $4 (bad condition) to $240 (that must come with the spinning
wheel, which is what the book is for). Thanks Farml.

Just because it is has "The Ashford" in the title, don't make the mistake
of
thinking that the info it contains is applicable only to the Ashford
wheels
or drop spindles. It's a good book as is the one on weaving.

Have you seen http://www.zombo.com/ ? Wait for the opening screen to
fade out.

What does it do? All I got was the "welcome to Zombo com" verbal message
and then 2 tiny options which, when I tried to select either of them,
just
resulted in a rerun of the verbal message.

I'm sure that the "Ashford book of Spinning" is a good book but it was
my impression that it was written with an Ashford spinning wheel in
mind.

Yes, I thought that was the impression you had gained which is why I posted
again to indicate that it is universally applicable.

Ashford produce various weight spindles and wheels with Scotch tension,
Irish tension, double drive and electric spninners so that covers all the
bases a beginner would come across. The info in the book is applicable
across the board to all wheels and spindles (although I should say that I
don't know about wind wheels as I have no experience of them - but they have
neither the price tag or the availability to attract a beginning spinner
anyway).

As just one example, the book explains how to figure out drive ratios and
although it uses an Ashford wheel to illustrate (even though there is really
no need as anyone who buys an Ashford will either have the manufacturer's
info on what the drive ratios are or could go to the Ashford site to find
out there) you would use exactly that method to find out the ratios of an
antique or any modern wheel.

I have 2 wheels and only one of them is an Ashford, but it is still the best
book I have found for having all the info I need in an easily accessible
format and it was the one I chose to buy after borrowing a lot of spinning
books from the Spinners and Weavers Guild.

The book, paperback, used, averaged $30 - $40 and the local
library doesn't have a copy.

That's too much for a beginning spinner to spend. You don't know yet
whether you'll want to continue or not.

Does your library do inter-library loans at all? I've found that is a great
way of getting access to all sorts of books which are otherwise unattainable
and as a beginner I would advise reading lots of books as sometimes
instructions make no sense in one book but another way of saying the same
thing in another book can suddenly cause one of those 'Eureka' moments.

I looked into the price of an Ashford
spinning wheel and no web site would quote one. At that point I lost
interest.

Possibly as a result of the sub prime washup and they can't keep up with the
exchange rate until they get a firm order????? I'm not sure what the US
dollar is doing against the NZ dollar, but I notice that the exchange rate
for Oz and the US dollar is moving very much in or favour.

Is there a Spinning and Weaving Guild near you at all? They often hire out
wheels to beginners for extended periods so they can learn before they need
to buy.

If you stick with it, the "Spin Off" magazine produced by Interweave press
will become important to you for all sorts of reasons. Check it out at
newsagencies and if you don't see anything to attract your interest or cause
a flutter of excitement, don't even bother trying to learn to spin.

You can thank JoeSB for turning me on to zombo.com. Pretty neat site
isn't it?

No, or not from anything I've seen so far. The jingle is merely irritating
and the site seems to offer nothing but the jingle.

"enigma" wrote in message
Billy wrote in

I looked into the price of an Ashford spinning wheel
and no web site would quote one. At that point I lost
interest.

Ashfords are expensive, but like all good tools, you get what
you pay for.

The Ashford wheel I own is a "Joy" bought for me as a gift after my last
cancer treatment finished. Well named as it is a total joy to use and carry
off to meetings.

that said, my wheel is a Robin, built by some guy in Maine.

I had a look at their web site - nice looking wheels. Which one do you have
Lee?

if you can't find the Ashford book, try looking for the Alden
Amos Big Book of Handspinning, Interweave Press 2001. mine
cost $40 new (at Borders)
http://www.interweave.com/spin/books/alden_amos.asp

:-)) I borrowed that book from the Guild and for some reason Alden and I
just didn't click.

You can thank JoeSB for turning me on to zombo.com. Pretty
neat site isn't it?

i let it try to load for 10 minutes & got really tired of the
"welcome to zombo.com. you have reached zombo.com. zombo.com.
welcome to zombo.com...."

Snap.

so what does it *do*?

I suspect we've seen (heard?) all it has to offer.

"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in
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au:

"enigma" wrote in message
that said, my wheel is a Robin, built by some guy in
Maine.

I had a look at their web site - nice looking wheels.
Which one do you have Lee?

um, none of those. i have one of his original wheels in
cherry faced plywood & the wheel is solid, not spoked.
i'd love one of those special edition maple wheels though...

if you can't find the Ashford book, try looking for the
Alden Amos Big Book of Handspinning, Interweave Press
2001. mine cost $40 new (at Borders)
http://www.interweave.com/spin/books/alden_amos.asp

:-)) I borrowed that book from the Guild and for some
:reason Alden and I
just didn't click.

so what does it *do*?

I suspect we've seen (heard?) all it has to offer.

maybe i'll try it later in IE Tab. maybe it doesn't work in
Firefox? i really hate broken HTML that needs IE to "work".

lee
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It wasn't there again today
The host resolved to NSA.