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Many tree problems are associated with the following: They are Case
Sensitive.

Unhealthy Trees from the Nursery / Improper Planting
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20..._planting.html

Improper Mulching -
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/M/mulch.html

Improper Pruning
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/tree_pruning

Improper Fertilization (See A Touch of Chemistry)
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/CHEM.html

Tree Farming and Related Problems
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/SOUND/

Troubles in the Rhizosphere
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/RHIZO.html


For lucid information on the care of trees and their associates I would most
highly recommend www.shigoandtrees.com . Dr Shigo taught A NEW TREE BIOLOGY
worldwide. His stuff was translated in, but not limited to, Spanish,
German, Japanese, Italian, etc. It was common for him to be dissecting
trees in, but not limited to, Australia, Germany, Spain, Italy and of course
USA which I attended and dissected trees more than most people, not as much
as some. I recommend this site for your tree care requirements.

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books that
will give them understanding.


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"symplastless" wrote:

Many tree problems are associated with the following: They are Case
Sensitive.

Unhealthy Trees from the Nursery / Improper Planting
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20..._planting.html

Improper Mulching -
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/M/mulch.html

Improper Pruning
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/tree_pruning

Improper Fertilization (See A Touch of Chemistry)
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/CHEM.html

Tree Farming and Related Problems
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/SOUND/

Troubles in the Rhizosphere
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/RHIZO.html


For lucid information on the care of trees and their associates I would most
highly recommend www.shigoandtrees.com . Dr Shigo taught A NEW TREE BIOLOGY
worldwide. His stuff was translated in, but not limited to, Spanish,
German, Japanese, Italian, etc. It was common for him to be dissecting
trees in, but not limited to, Australia, Germany, Spain, Italy and of course
USA which I attended and dissected trees more than most people, not as much
as some. I recommend this site for your tree care requirements.

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books that
will give them understanding.


Hello

autism
noun Psychiatry
a mental condition, present from early childhood, characterized by great
difficulty in communicating and forming relationships with other people
and in using language and abstract concepts.
€ a mental condition in which fantasy dominates over reality, as a
symptom of schizophrenia and other disorders.

If your not autistic, then go to alt.forestry, or some other site,
answer a question when it's ask, not just to see your name on the screen.
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Hello

autism
noun Psychiatry
a mental condition, present from early childhood,
characterized by great difficulty in communicating and
forming relationships with other people and in using
language and abstract concepts. € a mental condition in
which fantasy dominates over reality, as a symptom of
schizophrenia and other disorders.


um, Billy? this is NOT a definition of autism &, as an
autistic person, i'm a little insulted by this.
Keslik may be nuts, but he's not likely autistic.
lee
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enigma wrote:

Billy wrote in

ct.net.au:

Hello

autism
noun Psychiatry
a mental condition, present from early childhood,
characterized by great difficulty in communicating and
forming relationships with other people and in using
language and abstract concepts. € a mental condition in
which fantasy dominates over reality, as a symptom of
schizophrenia and other disorders.


um, Billy? this is NOT a definition of autism &, as an
autistic person, i'm a little insulted by this.
Keslik may be nuts, but he's not likely autistic.
lee


Sorry Lee, I'm just working with the tools that society has
given me. At first blush, you must admit that down to the bullet
it sounds like our friend John. I agree that none of the above
describes your behavior. I presume that a real definition of
autism would fill a library but I (like that other famous Bill)
can only use the definitions that the dictionary gives me.

Autism * Is a pervasive developmental disability (PDD) that is
usually diagnosed within the first three years of life. The major
areas of development impacted are the child¹s ability to
communicate, and acquire social skills.
http://www.autismedu.com/glossary.html

Being closer to the issue, do you have a more relevant definition?
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Billy wrote in

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Sorry Lee, I'm just working with the tools that society has
given me. At first blush, you must admit that down to the
bullet it sounds like our friend John. I agree that none of
the above describes your behavior. I presume that a real
definition of autism would fill a library but I (like that
other famous Bill) can only use the definitions that the
dictionary gives me.


it's this part: "€ a mental condition in
which fantasy dominates over reality, as a symptom of
schizophrenia and other disorders. " that i object to. i

don't know any austistics, child or adult, that have fantasy
dominating reality issues. autistics generally *can't*
pretend. we're hyper-realistic, overly logical, non-emotional.
we don't *get* playing pretend.
that whole phrase might pertain to schizophrenics, but not to
autistics at all.

Autism * Is a pervasive developmental disability (PDD) that
is usually diagnosed within the first three years of life.
The major areas of development impacted are the child¹s
ability to communicate, and acquire social skills.
http://www.autismedu.com/glossary.html


yup. at least for some on the spectrum. then there are the
asperger types... they can talk the bark off a tree, if the
topic interests them.
my son was a non-talker, but his was due to apraxia of
speech, not the autism. he's pretty aspie, really.

Being closer to the issue, do you have a more relevant
definition?


try taking a look around this site:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/

between the radiation, 3 weeks of rain & trying to get my
house organized, i'm too wiped to be coherent right now. it's
a look at autism from the inside, what bothers us, what we
think.
lee
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Lee, get some rest. This discussion can wait, if it need
be had at all. I'm sorry that I disturbed you, I was just trying
to get John's attention because he manifestly displays classic
symptoms of autism. You on the other hand can banter, which must
be freakin' rare for someone with autism or Asperger syndrome.
Just being categorized would put me off the deep end (Oh, he's one
of them!!?). It is just an intellectual construct that has meaning, only
if we accept it. But hey, shrinks gotta eat too ;o)

Bonne nuit and schlaft gut. 'Nuff said.
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Lee

You have words about me and I do not think you know me. Did we meet
somewhere. In a tree biology workshop somewhere? Again if you have issue
with my instructions based on tree biology then lets here it.


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books that
will give them understanding.
"enigma" wrote in message
.. .
Billy wrote in

ct.net.au:

Hello

autism
noun Psychiatry
a mental condition, present from early childhood,
characterized by great difficulty in communicating and
forming relationships with other people and in using
language and abstract concepts. ? a mental condition in
which fantasy dominates over reality, as a symptom of
schizophrenia and other disorders.


um, Billy? this is NOT a definition of autism &, as an
autistic person, i'm a little insulted by this.
Keslik may be nuts, but he's not likely autistic.
lee
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I pinged a host that wasn't there
It wasn't there again today
The host resolved to NSA.



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"symplastless" wrote:

Look John, I started this line of inquiry, address yourself to me.
You have been told, innumerable times that your posts are both
inpersonable and ill timed. I like the fact that you are trying to
be of service, but the messages get lost in the medium. Cut and
paste doesn't leave room for banter. You desperately need banter.
But I have essentially said this before, as your friend, when no
one else would support you. Now I'm back again, to tell you that
if you want to be heard you need to change. Strangely, if you are
autistic, everything is fine. Order is restored. Sorry to try to
shove you into a box, but your behavior is so damn irritating as
to try Job. Autistic, Asperger, idiosyncrasy call it what you will,
it isn't serving you well.

This isn't my Newsgroup. You can say what you will. I, and others
would be happier if you weren't so inappropriate with responses.
Can you respond to just the question without the cut and paste?
Not some possible, tangential need, but the stated question.
If you need some accommodation (we are all different), I'm sure it
will be given.

Can you control, the way you respond?
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Billy wrote:

In article ,
"symplastless" wrote:

Look John, I started this line of inquiry, address yourself to me.
You have been told, innumerable times that your posts are both
inpersonable and ill timed. I like the fact that you are trying to
be of service, but the messages get lost in the medium. Cut and
paste doesn't leave room for banter. You desperately need banter.
But I have essentially said this before, as your friend, when no
one else would support you. Now I'm back again, to tell you that
if you want to be heard you need to change. Strangely, if you are
autistic, everything is fine. Order is restored. Sorry to try to
shove you into a box, but your behavior is so damn irritating as
to try Job. Autistic, Asperger, idiosyncrasy call it what you will,
it isn't serving you well.

This isn't my Newsgroup. You can say what you will. I, and others
would be happier if you weren't so inappropriate with responses.
Can you respond to just the question without the cut and paste?
Not some possible, tangential need, but the stated question.
If you need some accommodation (we are all different), I'm sure it
will be given.

Can you control, the way you respond?


I don't think there's any question but that he has some sort of
"condition" perhaps even one that could be treated if he sought help\. But
diagnoses aren't likely to hit the mark on UseNet. There are too many
possibilities. Asbergers is a GREAT guess when assessing someone who has
posted the same things changelessly all over the web for ten years.
Addiction to repetitious behavior on the web or on video games mimics
Aspergers.

A study of 391 computer gamers found that the more addicted to their
screens a player became, the closer they came to meeting the three primary
definitions of Asbergers behavior: !) neuroticism, 2) lack of extraversion
& 3) disagreeableness. Our resident Asberger may not like the study's
clinical definitions but that's them. The gamers didn't REALLY have
Asbergers, but its intriguing they mimicked the syndrome perfectly. Both
the Asberger mimics and the real deal are all over the web in great
numbers, interacting really well in the type of controled environment in
which such people thrive. It keeps them from having to interact in the
actual world around them, and even during their "disagreeable" patches
it's usually called flaming rather than a mental health issue. Easy to
pass for just another dumbass!

But some of the same characteristics are mimicked in people with clinical
depression, anxiety syndromes, compulsive disorders, bipolar conditions,
even tourettes can mimic aspergers in the web environment. Qualified
mental health professionals have a hell of a hard time making these
diagnoses (and aspergers has of late become a WAY TOO COMMON diagnosis for
every level of geekiness; I suspect it'll eventually be shown to be not
medically sound but exclusively the result of psychologists WANTING every
degree of social ineptitude or nurdiness to be a disease even if it
ain't).

If the doctor's get it wrong so often, you and I can only make vastly less
reliable guesses. And we've every right to make, just as amateurs have
every right to play their banjo however badly. Mental illness can be a
wondrous curiosity to observe, & there's no reason to back away from
interest in wacky behavior whether or not we can accurately tag it as a
syndrome. Apologetic no one needs to be, not even Ben Stiller.

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"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"symplastless" wrote:

Look John, I started this line of inquiry, address yourself to me.
You have been told, innumerable times that your posts are both
inpersonable and ill timed. I like the fact that you are trying to
be of service, but the messages get lost in the medium. Cut and
paste doesn't leave room for banter. You desperately need banter.
But I have essentially said this before, as your friend, when no
one else would support you. Now I'm back again, to tell you that
if you want to be heard you need to change.


No, you are wrong. Here are the most common problems for trees. Of course
this will have no influence of you, which I could care not less. These are
issues that require adjustments to have safe, healthy and attractive trees.
Please tend to your business and I will tend to mine.
When was the last time you refereed someone to www.shigoandtrees.com fort
help with trees? What is your website on tree care practices? Please
bother someone else.

See the tree people will tend to tree business and you can tend to whatever
it is you say you are.

Again, if you think content of links are incorrect and misleading please
bring it on.

Other than that I really do not require your friendship under your
disgusting terms.

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Many tree problems are associated with the following: They are Case
Sensitive.

Unhealthy Trees from the Nursery / Improper Planting
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20..._planting.html

Improper Mulching -
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/M/mulch.html

Improper Pruning
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/tree_pruning

Improper Fertilization (See A Touch of Chemistry)
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/CHEM.html

Tree Farming and Related Problems
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/SOUND/

Troubles in the Rhizosphere
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/RHIZO.html

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books that
will give them understanding.

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"Billy" wrote in message
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In article ,
"symplastless" wrote:

Many tree problems are associated with the following: They are Case
Sensitive.

Unhealthy Trees from the Nursery / Improper Planting
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20..._planting.html

Improper Mulching -
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/M/mulch.html

Improper Pruning
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/tree_pruning

Improper Fertilization (See A Touch of Chemistry)
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/CHEM.html

Tree Farming and Related Problems
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/SOUND/

Troubles in the Rhizosphere
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/RHIZO.html


For lucid information on the care of trees and their associates I would
most
highly recommend www.shigoandtrees.com . Dr Shigo taught A NEW TREE
BIOLOGY
worldwide. His stuff was translated in, but not limited to, Spanish,
German, Japanese, Italian, etc. It was common for him to be dissecting
trees in, but not limited to, Australia, Germany, Spain, Italy and of
course
USA which I attended and dissected trees more than most people, not as
much
as some. I recommend this site for your tree care requirements.

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us
that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books
that
will give them understanding.


Hello

autism
noun Psychiatry
a mental condition, present from early childhood, characterized by great
difficulty in communicating and forming relationships with other people
and in using language and abstract concepts.
? a mental condition in which fantasy dominates over reality, as a
symptom of schizophrenia and other disorders.

If your not autistic, then go to alt.forestry, or some other site,
answer a question when it's ask, not just to see your name on the screen.
--

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Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/


You do not dictate the news group. I do not follow your instructions. I
will continue with my information process for those that require help. You
really do not have anything to say to me. I tried to overlook your
controlling attitude but I have given up on trying to be your friend. If
you have point with some of my instructions then feel free. However I am a
tree person and will continue to address the most common problems for trees.
Please stop interfering with my educational process. And as far as Bush and
Pelosi Behind Bars, maybe you should spend some time behind bars.


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books that
will give them understanding.


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However I am a tree person and will continue to address the most common
problems for trees.


As your name self defines, you are dead wood, and dumb as a stump. The
most common problem is yard boys ripping off clients with such nonsense.

Please stop interfering with my educational process.


Your educational process never started, but seems unending.


Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Yard Boy
http://home.ccil.org/~treedman
and www.treeddictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books
that will give them understanding.



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"D. Staples" wrote in message
omsupplyinc...

"sympleass" wrote in message
...
However I am a tree person and will continue to address the most common
problems for trees.


As your name self defines, you are dead wood, and dumb as a stump. The
most common problem is yard boys ripping off clients with such nonsense.


Don Staples - Consulting Salvage Hog
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm


Sure you call symplastless wood dead. You are a casual observer. Would it
not be wonderful if you understood the ecological stages of trees to be
called a consulting forester. Go salvage George Bushes ranch. He's not
stupid enough to hire you. I know you are a crook, you know I know you are
a crook and you are not changing. Would it not be nice if you understood
trees?


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books that
will give them understanding.


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"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..

"D. Staples" wrote in message
omsupplyinc...

"sympleass" wrote in message
...
However I am a tree person and will continue to address the most common
problems for trees.


As your name self defines, you are dead wood, and dumb as a stump. The
most common problem is yard boys ripping off clients with such nonsense.


Don Staples - Consulting Salvage Hog
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm


Sure you call symplastless wood dead. You are a casual observer. Would
it not be wonderful if you understood the ecological stages of trees to be
called a consulting forester. Go salvage George Bushes ranch. He's not
stupid enough to hire you. I know you are a crook, you know I know you
are a crook and you are not changing. Would it not be nice if you
understood trees?


Would it be nice if you understood biology? Show us your education, yard
boy. A tree butcher for Shigo, you only defames the good doctor with your
constant pimping of his works.

--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Yard Boy
http://home.ccil.org/~treedman
and www.treeddictionary.com
Beware of yard boy experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us that we are not the boss.
Some yard boys will buy products they do not understand and will not buy
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"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..

"D. Staples" wrote in message
omsupplyinc...

"sympleass" wrote in message
...
However I am a tree person and will continue to address the most common
problems for trees.


As your name self defines, you are dead wood, and dumb as a stump. The
most common problem is yard boys ripping off clients with such nonsense.


Don Staples - Consulting Salvage Hog
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm


Sure you call symplastless wood dead. You are a casual observer. Would
it not be wonderful if you understood the ecological stages of trees to be
called a consulting forester. Go salvage George Bushes ranch. He's not
stupid enough to hire you. I know you are a crook, you know I know you
are a crook and you are not changing. Would it not be nice if you
understood trees?


Since you like definitions, give us the definition of "crook". I give you a
hint. From the dictionary: a dishonest person, esp. a sharper, swindler,
or thief.

Second question. How do you know I am a "crook"?



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