I'll be growing some black heirloom tomatoes this season for the first
time. Black Prince and Black from Tula. Although I never tasted a
black tomato I hear they are very good indeed. As a tomato lover, I'd
like to hear from others who may have tried them. I really enjoy a
tomato that has a lot of flavor and not so much on the mild side like
some yellow tomatoes I have tasted. We use most of our tomatoes fresh
as slicing tomatoes. I do realize that most heirlooms don't produce a
large crop as do hybrids. My crop will be a mix this year between
heirloom and hybrid varieties. I have never grown heirloom tomatoes up
till now and I'm not quite sure what to expect. The hybrids will kind of
be like my insurance policy so I at least end up with a few tomatoes for
the table

Rich

Marglobe

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Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA

I'll be growing some black heirloom tomatoes this season for the first
time. Black Prince and Black from Tula. Although I never tasted a
black tomato I hear they are very good indeed. As a tomato lover, I'd
like to hear from others who may have tried them. I really enjoy a
tomato that has a lot of flavor and not so much on the mild side like
some yellow tomatoes I have tasted. We use most of our tomatoes fresh
as slicing tomatoes. I do realize that most heirlooms don't produce a
large crop as do hybrids. My crop will be a mix this year between
heirloom and hybrid varieties. I have never grown heirloom tomatoes up
till now and I'm not quite sure what to expect. The hybrids will kind of
be like my insurance policy so I at least end up with a few tomatoes for
the table

Rich


Please do let us know how these black heirlooms' turn out for
you. Always fun and interesting to learn about something one
has never tried. I've never heard of black heirlooms....did you
find these thru a catalog? by seed?

I have had a different experience with red/yellow heirlooms. My
plants were great producer's and even the yellow ones were
tasty and meaty.

Donna
in WA 8&9

Hi Donna! I'll be starting my black tomatoes from seed this year. I
just went to Google and searched heirloom black tomato seeds. Here is
the site where I buy most of my seeds .......... Rich

http://www.tomatogrowers.com/black.htm

"EVP MAN" wrote in message
...

I'll be growing some black heirloom tomatoes this season for the first
time. Black Prince and Black from Tula. Although I never tasted a
black tomato I hear they are very good indeed. As a tomato lover, I'd
like to hear from others who may have tried them. I really enjoy a
tomato that has a lot of flavor and not so much on the mild side like
some yellow tomatoes I have tasted. We use most of our tomatoes fresh
as slicing tomatoes. I do realize that most heirlooms don't produce a
large crop as do hybrids. My crop will be a mix this year between
heirloom and hybrid varieties. I have never grown heirloom tomatoes up
till now and I'm not quite sure what to expect. The hybrids will kind of
be like my insurance policy so I at least end up with a few tomatoes for
the table

A number of studies have been done in Australia on the yield of heirloom
tomatoes vs hybrids. The result is that heirlooms produce more lb of fruit
per bush than hybrids and they do it steadily over a long period so you
don't get the glut of the hybrids all coming ripe in a short time. If you
go to he
http://www.diggers.com.au/articleWhatsNewIsOld.shtml
and scroll to the right you will see details of one company that has done
one of these trials. I do have the figures of one of their trials and the
reports on the taste from public tastings rates the heirlooms higher than
the hybrids and the yield from their trials is interesting as the heirlooms
beat nearly all of the hybrid varieties.

I've always grown heirlooms but didn't know I was growing them till recently
as the variety which is called Grosse Lisse is also one of the more popular
tomatoes grown by home gardeners in my area. Yield has always been good.

But to your Black toms.... I've grown a number of Black toms over recent
years - black Russians, Black Krim and they are very, very good. Good yield
(except this year is not great but than none of my other tomato varieties
are doing brillianlty this year either for some reason but still to many to
eat fresh). They are flavoursome and delish in anything I've used them
with. I've had them on salads, on french bread with olive oil garlic and
basil, in soups, added to casseroles, added to sauce (ketchup), made with
other varieties into chutney, just frozen with various other toms, in
spaghetti sauce etc.

Thank you Farml for your post Sure makes me feel better about
growing some heirlooms this year and especially the black tomatoes! I
can hardly wait to taste my first one. I'm also growing some Cherokee
purple and Pruden's purple. I hear Pruden's purple does very well in my
area and tastes quite a bit like Brandywine but produces much earlier.
What I'm doing this year is planting quite a few different varieties.
Then each successive year, I'll plant a few extra of the ones that done
well and eliminate the ones that didn't or the tomatoes I didn't care
much for. I want to reach the point where I only have to put out about
a dozen and a half plants each year that are the very best tomatoes I
can grow in my garden. I know it's going to take more than a year or
two to get it right but I'm willing to invest some money and time for my
labor of love to grow some fine tomatoes

Thanks Again For Your Post! .........Rich

(EVP MAN) wrote in news:17789-4B89F6FE-1214
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Hi Donna! I'll be starting my black tomatoes from seed this year. I
just went to Google and searched heirloom black tomato seeds. Here is
the site where I buy most of my seeds .......... Rich

http://www.tomatogrowers.com/black.htm


I've grown the Black Cherry tomato for several years. They are vigorous
vines and highly productive. The fruit is slightly large for a cherry
tomato, very nicely rounded, and the plants are loaded with them. This is
my favorite of all the tomatoes I grow. The flavor is delightful - very
rich classic purple tomato flavor.

I've grown Black Krim and Carbon, but they came in late in the season, and
the frost caught the plants loaded with huge green tomatoes. If you have a
longer growing season or if you start them early, they can produce quite a
bit. I'm going to try to space them further apart this year, as the plants
are quite large.

Baker Creek also has a lot of heirlooms, it's worth looking over their site
- www.rareseeds.com.

On 2/27/10 4:38 PM, in article
, "EVP MAN"
wrote:


I'll be growing some black heirloom tomatoes this season for the first
time. Black Prince and Black from Tula. Although I never tasted a
black tomato I hear they are very good indeed. As a tomato lover, I'd
like to hear from others who may have tried them. I really enjoy a
tomato that has a lot of flavor and not so much on the mild side like
some yellow tomatoes I have tasted. We use most of our tomatoes fresh
as slicing tomatoes. I do realize that most heirlooms don't produce a
large crop as do hybrids. My crop will be a mix this year between
heirloom and hybrid varieties. I have never grown heirloom tomatoes up
till now and I'm not quite sure what to expect. The hybrids will kind of
be like my insurance policy so I at least end up with a few tomatoes for
the table

Rich

I had great luck with Black Pearl cherry tomatoes. (at least I'm pretty sure
that's the name)

Very tasty

I'll be growing four different cherry tomato plants this year. Husky
red cherry, yellow pear, red pear and also chocolate cherry which I
can't wait to try. The chocolate cherry looks very dark so I guess it
would be considered a black tomato also. Nothing like snacking on a
bowl of fresh picked cherry tomatoes

Rich

In article ,
(EVP MAN) wrote:

I'll be growing four different cherry tomato plants this year. Husky
red cherry, yellow pear, red pear and also chocolate cherry which I
can't wait to try. The chocolate cherry looks very dark so I guess it
would be considered a black tomato also. Nothing like snacking on a
bowl of fresh picked cherry tomatoes

Rich

Well, they're not black, Glacier Tomato, http://seedrack.com/10.html
but the shuck and jive description is tomatoes in 45 days! How can a
feller resist? Bought these (and Caspian Pink, and Hawaiian Pineapple)
after throwing out other excess tomato seedlings. Guess I'll be shoe
horning tomatoes in again this year.
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merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.

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Wildbilly;878842]In article ,
(EVP MAN) wrote:

I'll be growing four different cherry tomato plants this year. Husky
red cherry, yellow pear, red pear and also chocolate cherry which I
can't wait to try. The chocolate cherry looks very dark so I guess it
would be considered a black tomato also. Nothing like snacking on a
bowl of fresh picked cherry tomatoes

Rich

Well, they're not black, Glacier Tomato, http://seedrack.com/10.html
but the shuck and jive description is tomatoes in 45 days! How can a
feller resist? Bought these (and Caspian Pink, and Hawaiian Pineapple)
after throwing out other excess tomato seedlings. Guess I'll be shoe
horning tomatoes in again this year.
--
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100119/...ting_activists
[url]http://www.democracynow.org/2010/1/19/headlines[/


im glad that u brought up the subject of maters EVP Man because i think i
might try and grow cherokee as well as black crim maters also--lets hope
they grow for me lol.
thanks everyone for all the info as it makes it a lot easier to see what ones
ppl have tried and gives a broader base to make decisions on.
now the one thing though i would like to know is are these maters able to
be used in canning or are they mostly the type that u use for slicing and freezing for later use.
i get confused as there are aso many types out there anymore and i know
u have to really watch the acid levels if u are going to can maters.
thanks again everyone. cyaaaaaaaaaa, sockiescat.

In article ,
sockiescat wrote:

Wildbilly;878842]In article
,
(EVP MAN) wrote:
-
I'll be growing four different cherry tomato plants this year. Husky
red cherry, yellow pear, red pear and also chocolate cherry which I
can't wait to try. The chocolate cherry looks very dark so I guess it
would be considered a black tomato also. Nothing like snacking on a
bowl of fresh picked cherry tomatoes

Rich-

Well, they're not black, Glacier Tomato, http://seedrack.com/10.html
but the shuck and jive description is tomatoes in 45 days! How can a
feller resist? Bought these (and Caspian Pink, and Hawaiian Pineapple)
after throwing out other excess tomato seedlings. Guess I'll be shoe
horning tomatoes in again this year.
--
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.

http://tinyurl.com/yfg6htt
[url]http://www.democracynow.org/2010/1/19/headlines[/


im glad that u brought up the subject of maters EVP Man because i think
i
might try and grow cherokee as well as black crim maters also--lets hope

they grow for me lol.
thanks everyone for all the info as it makes it a lot easier to see what
ones
ppl have tried and gives a broader base to make decisions on.
now the one thing though i would like to know is are these maters able
to
be used in canning or are they mostly the type that u use for slicing
and freezing for later use.
i get confused as there are aso many types out there anymore and i
know
u have to really watch the acid levels if u are going to can maters.
thanks again everyone. cyaaaaaaaaaa, sockiescat.

IIRC the safest way to can tomatoes is with a pressure cooker. Sauces
are usually made with "Roma" type tomatoes. Romas are low in juice which
make them good for canning. Acidity may be more important at lower
temps. Why not check at rec.food.preserving ?
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http://www.democracynow.org/2010/1/19/headlines

I'm growing some Cherokee purple tomatoes also this year. Some people
say it's the very best tasting tomato ever. I don't think the black
tomatoes are very firm so I would imagine they are best for fresh
eating. Another tomato I'm growing is Pruden's purple. Some say it
tastes a whole lot like Brandywine but is earlier. Tomatoes are my
favorite so it's a lot of fun to give new ones a try each year along
with the ones that you already know will do well in your garden.

Rich

EVP MAN;878977]I'm growing some Cherokee purple tomatoes also this year. Some people
say it's the very best tasting tomato ever. I don't think the black
tomatoes are very firm so I would imagine they are best for fresh
eating. Another tomato I'm growing is Pruden's purple. Some say it
tastes a whole lot like Brandywine but is earlier. Tomatoes are my
favorite so it's a lot of fun to give new ones a try each year along
with the ones that you already know will do well in your garden.

Rich


boy u are going to have a cross section of tomatoes EVP MAN. how many are
u going to grow this yr anyways if u dont mind me asking.
wildbilly thanks for the info on the tomatoes and for the site ive been peeking
around in rec.food.preserving like u mentioned and got some good info from there . thanks again. cyaaaaaa, sockiescat.