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Old 30-04-2003, 02:44 AM
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I just bought a house and I am starting to do its landscaping. This
is my first house and I am very new to this. Please excuse me if this
seems like a basic question.

In my backyard I have a hill. There is a house built on the hill and
I want to plant some shrubby that will give me some privacy (and
color). I am thinking about planting 7 forsythias and 3 burning
bushing (in front of the forsythias).

I am planning on planting the forsythias about 5-6 feet from my
property line and bout 5 feet apart. I am also thinking I will plant
the burning bushes about 6-7 feet in front of the forsythias.

What do you guys think? Do you think the bushes will look good
together and do you think I have them spaced correctly?


Thanks,

Nate
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Old 30-04-2003, 04:20 AM
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(Nate Everden) wrote:

I just bought a house and I am starting to do its landscaping. This
is my first house and I am very new to this. Please excuse me if this
seems like a basic question.

In my backyard I have a hill. There is a house built on the hill and
I want to plant some shrubby that will give me some privacy (and
color). I am thinking about planting 7 forsythias and 3 burning
bushing (in front of the forsythias).

I am planning on planting the forsythias about 5-6 feet from my
property line and bout 5 feet apart. I am also thinking I will plant
the burning bushes about 6-7 feet in front of the forsythias.

What do you guys think? Do you think the bushes will look good
together and do you think I have them spaced correctly?


Thanks,

Nate


You might want to do a little research & find plants that are not so
dreadfully common. There's nothing really wrong with forsythia & burning
bush but you could do so much better, with a finer variety of shrubs &amp
perhaps one tree that'll serve you for years as "bones" of a garden you
can knit together with perennials & suchlike between the woody things.
Also, think in terms of what they will look like in winter.

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Thanks for the tip. Any opinion on the spacing?

Nate
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Old 01-05-2003, 01:56 PM
Nate Everden
 
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Thanks for your feedback. I believe I am in zone 6 (SE Michigan). I
am new to this stuff, but I looked it up he
http://www.arborday.org/trees/whatzone.cfm

This is what I want. I want something that will group 8-12 feet talk,
is fast growing, adds color to my yard and will provide a lot of
privacy during the summer. I do not really care about the winter. I
am most interested in those wonderful summer cookouts!

I do not really want to go with evergreens because that's what most of
my neighbors have. We are not short on green here! I want to add
something different and add colors.

So, any other suggestions? I do not want to spend a lot of money and
want to provide coverage for about 30 feet.

Also, any opinions on my proposed spacing (see original posting)? I
am planning on doing some of my planting this weekend.

Thanks for the feedback!

Nate
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Old 01-05-2003, 03:56 PM
 
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do a double staggered row for increased bloom, forsythia (early bloom) in back,
spirea (mid season) in front and stick some Crepe Myrtle into the back row for
continuous summer bloom
http://www.mobot.org/gardeninghelp/p...dem/Q820.shtml
Ingrid

(Nate Everden) wrote:

Thanks for your feedback. I believe I am in zone 6 (SE Michigan). I
am new to this stuff, but I looked it up he
http://www.arborday.org/trees/whatzone.cfm

This is what I want. I want something that will group 8-12 feet talk,
is fast growing, adds color to my yard and will provide a lot of
privacy during the summer. I do not really care about the winter. I
am most interested in those wonderful summer cookouts!



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Old 01-05-2003, 11:20 PM
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Thanks for the ideas! I really like the idea of putting something
that blooms mid season in front. As I said before, I am very new to
this stuff. When you say "spirea" do you mean this:
http://springhillnursery.com/product.asp?pn=09829

If so, it seems like a perfect bush for me, except for two things. I
would like it to be 1-2 feet taller and not yellow. I would like
something that would stand out with the forsythias behind it.

So, any suggestions on a bush that:
• Blooms mid season.
• does not have a lot of green or yellow in it
• fast growing
• cheap
• 3-5 feet tall

The size might not be a big deal. I am going to put it next to a
burning bush (which I think gets 4-5 feet tall).

Thanks,

Nate
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Old 01-05-2003, 11:56 PM
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In article ,
(Nate Everden) wrote:

Thanks for the ideas! I really like the idea of putting something
that blooms mid season in front. As I said before, I am very new to
this stuff. When you say "spirea" do you mean this:
http://springhillnursery.com/product.asp?pn=09829

Our spirea looks more like this in color

http://www.veseys.com/store.cfm?product=2247

Ours is actually a little more red wine colored and I'm thinking it's
around 3-4' tall, although I've never measured it. Different varieties
are available with a wealth of colors and sizes.

Ask your neighbors about this bush. In our neighborhood, many people
have them & can either split them or give you one.
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Old 02-05-2003, 12:32 AM
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Ok, this is what I think I am going to do:

Plant 7-8 forsythias 6 feet from my property line. Then plant 2 burning
bush (dwarfs) and 2 red spireas 5 feet in front of the forsythias. Ill put
the burning bushes on the ends and the spireas in the middle.

What do you guys think?

Thanks for everyone help!


Nate


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Old 02-05-2003, 12:32 AM
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In article , montana
wrote:

In article ,
(Nate Everden) wrote:

Thanks for the ideas! I really like the idea of putting something
that blooms mid season in front. As I said before, I am very new to
this stuff. When you say "spirea" do you mean this:
http://springhillnursery.com/product.asp?pn=09829

Our spirea looks more like this in color

http://www.veseys.com/store.cfm?product=2247


There are many kinds of spirea. Here are three of mine:

Spiraea cinerea "Grefsheim", Elf's Home Spirea:
http://www.paghat.com/spiraea.html
There are others similar to this, like "bridal wreath" spireas, very
green, often fountaining, with small white flowers all along the branches
instead of as coryms or lacecaps. Hardy as heck.

Spiraea japonica "Bumalda" Bumalda Japanese Spirea:
http://www.paghat.com/spiraeajaponica.html
This one is very persistent in blooming & reblooming right into winter,
but not all are quite so everblooming, or will rebloom only if you
deadhead a lot. This is a basic garden-store variety of which there are a
couple dozen cultivars very similar to it, some that are more unique
including dwarf, or with flaming yellow & orange leaf colors in spring &
in autumn, most mainly green-leafed but with bronzy or magenta autumn
color, most with lacecaps of pink flowers. Some can be weedy & spread all
over the neighborhood.

Spiraea densiflora, Mountain Spirea aka Rosy Spirea:
http://www.paghat.com/spiraeadensiflora.html
THIS ONE'S MY FAVORITE BY FAR. There are similar ones like Douglas's
Spirea. They're usually offered by native plant specialists rather than
regular nurseries, they are not cultivars. A really nice large nursery may
have them.

Could add as a footnote, Sorbaria sorbifolia, Ash Leaf Spiraea aka Ural
False Spiraea:
http://www.paghat.com/sorbaria.html
This suckers just awfully well & sends long thick underground stolons to
some distance & pops up as a huge colony, & does so rapidly. This can be a
nuisance or not, depending on if you want a colony or not, or can or can't
stand to often have to dig out suckering plants. When in bloom (twice a
year) it has a lot going for it, but it needs more care than real spireas,
pruning, watering, watch it for blackspot.

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Ok, now my next problem. I am going to check the local nuresies, but I
think I may not be able to find the type of spirea I want.

Can anyone recommend a couple good online nurseries that would have a lot of
different types of spireas?

Thanks,


Nate




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Old 02-05-2003, 01:08 AM
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In article ,
"Nate Everden" wrote:

Ok, now my next problem. I am going to check the local nuresies, but I
think I may not be able to find the type of spirea I want.

Can anyone recommend a couple good online nurseries that would have a lot of
different types of spireas?

Thanks,


Nate



Your nurseries will be able to special order for you and also may be
able to guide you in the right direction for finding plants that will
really be successful in your area.

I really like talking to my neighbors about gardening because some of
them are really masters. They have the experience I lack, they love
educating me and they are completely familiar with the area.
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Old 02-05-2003, 03:44 AM
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How about some lilacs? They grow like weeds. Blue flowers. 2 weeks ago I
started 16 (actually 18, got 2 extra in one box) in pots which I bought
bare-root at BJ's Wholesale club. They're growing already I think maybe I
should've skipped the "Pot it up first until it's at leasdt 1-gallon nursery
plant sized" step.

You can trim these to form tree-shapes instead of lwetting it grow like a
shrub, as well.


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Old 02-05-2003, 05:56 AM
 
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http://www.jungseed.com/cascade.cfm?...sub3=X&v ar=X
http://www.jungseed.com/ click on shrubs.
that is actually where I got mine. Ingrid

"Nate Everden" wrote:

Ok, now my next problem. I am going to check the local nuresies, but I
think I may not be able to find the type of spirea I want.

Can anyone recommend a couple good online nurseries that would have a lot of
different types of spireas?

Thanks,


Nate




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