On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 22:13:59 GMT, (BroJack)
wrote:

Curious how Rush terrifies leftists and whiggers.

Nope, no terror, mostly laughter. I was missing Bozo....

On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 16:25:30 -0700, Tom Jaszewski
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 22:13:59 GMT, (BroJack)
wrote:

Curious how Rush terrifies leftists and whiggers.

Nope, no terror, mostly laughter. I was missing Bozo....

He does make a big bafoon of himself on a daily basis, doesn't he. No shortage
of Rush wannabee types out there who follow his show all day long. NPR is TOO
sleepy. There must be some type medium which will address problems in the
country with adequate language and strength who support the democratic party.
Of course, it seems we have a new party now, The Liberal Left. Amazing.

"animaux" wrote in message
...

Curious how Rush terrifies leftists and whiggers.

Nope, no terror, mostly laughter. I was missing Bozo....

He does make a big bafoon of himself on a daily basis, doesn't he. No
shortage
of Rush wannabee types out there who follow his show all day long. NPR is
TOO
sleepy. There must be some type medium which will address problems in the
country with adequate language and strength who support the democratic
party.
Of course, it seems we have a new party now, The Liberal Left. Amazing.

And just who is the voice of the Liberal Left? Even Kennedy is all for
compromise with Dubya on the senior drug issue. Lieberman is a
quasi-Republican, so why bother considering him. Gephardt is Missouri's
Stassen. Edwards has too many ties to his days of injury lawsuits. Graham of
Florida is a possibility, but he has the personality of cold oatmeal. Kerry
is a married to the Heinz fortune. Gore blew his wad when he lost a sure
thing. Dean of Vermont would do nothing in the South, but I like him. Who
else is available?

The only one of the Democratic politicos who has the ovaries to go after
Dubya is Hillary. The problem is that the electorate either love or hate
her, although her poll numbers are now a positive 43% that doesn't win an
election.

What I would like to see is enough Democrats go after Dubya about "weapons
of mass destruction" so that it becomes an election issue. I have a feeling
that the Republicans are really squirming over this issue.

John

On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 00:24:54 -0500, "B & J" wrote:

And just who is the voice of the Liberal Left? Even Kennedy is all for
compromise with Dubya on the senior drug issue. Lieberman is a
quasi-Republican, so why bother considering him. Gephardt is Missouri's
Stassen. Edwards has too many ties to his days of injury lawsuits. Graham of
Florida is a possibility, but he has the personality of cold oatmeal. Kerry
is a married to the Heinz fortune. Gore blew his wad when he lost a sure
thing. Dean of Vermont would do nothing in the South, but I like him. Who
else is available?

The only one of the Democratic politicos who has the ovaries to go after
Dubya is Hillary. The problem is that the electorate either love or hate
her, although her poll numbers are now a positive 43% that doesn't win an
election.

What I would like to see is enough Democrats go after Dubya about "weapons
of mass destruction" so that it becomes an election issue. I have a feeling
that the Republicans are really squirming over this issue.

John


Hey, no argument from me on any of what you said. Hillary is not going to run,
she made that clear in several interviews this week. I don't know how an
election debacle turned into "Gore blew his wad..." when clearly the popular
vote was his.

I also fully agree about WMD, as they now call it with loving adoration. If you
notice when dub speaks now, he says "...we know they HAD weapons of mass
destruction..." As if this was a past inquiry.

The whole lot of them suck the big one. Bush is patting soldiers on the head
when he himself went AWOL. Eh.

In article ,
wcbanta wrote:
Global warming produces many different effects worldwide. some areas may get
wetter, some drier, some warmer and some colder. For example, increased
melting of Arctic glacial deposits could dilute the cold northern seas and
cause the Gulf Stream to sink, causing and unlivable cold climate in
northern Europe. El Nino is another example - it makes some Pacific islands
very wet and cooler while it warms the surrounding seas and kills marine
life by the millions of tons. It also makes for wet winters in the US.

The earth is not simple. Fox News and Rush Limbaugh are simple.
--

And it's not nearly as simple as the global-warming chicken little's
make it out to be either. You mention the shrinking Arctic glacial
deposits -- what about the growing Antarctic and Greenland deposits?
If there is global warming, why is there a net *increase* in ice and
a net *lowering* of the sea level?

http://visibleearth.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/viewrecord?11526

The global warming hysteria is built on models that simply don't
work, and global warming hysterics are forced to plead to explanations
that accept *any* data. Things are getting warmer? It's global
warming!!! Things are getting cooler? It's global warming!!!
Is the sea level rising? It's global warming!!! Is the sea
level lowering? It's global warming!!!

The amusing thing about the argument that Arctic melting causes
paradoxical global cooling is that the *opposite* argument also
holds -- that Arctic melting that causes global warming. See:

http://www.globalwarming.org/sciup/sci10-2-02.htm


Personally, I'll wait another 20 years to hear the hysterics go back
to the global cooling scare, like they were 20 years ago:

http://www.globalclimate.org/Newsweek.htm


billo

Hey, no argument from me on any of what you said. Hillary is not going to
run,
she made that clear in several interviews this week. I don't know how an
election debacle turned into "Gore blew his wad..." when clearly the
popular
vote was his.

Yes, Gore did have the popular vote, but Dubya got the electoral votes. What
irks me about Gore is that he so busily running away from Clinton that he
refused to use him where he would have made a big difference. He was much
too pious for his own good. In addition, Gore failed to carry his home state
which would have given him the election without Florida. Gore and his
handlers ran a really stupid campaign. Dubya didn't win the election; Gore
lost it.

I also fully agree about WMD, as they now call it with loving adoration.
If you
notice when dub speaks now, he says "...we know they HAD weapons of mass
destruction..." As if this was a past inquiry.

Maybe if he ignores his exact words, they'll go away if he changes the
tense? Or did we misunderstand his pronunciation? :-) So far no one is
really holding his hands to the fire on this issue. What I would like to see
is a group of Democrats assemble and start impeachment proceedings against
Dubya for lying to the American people and the world . After all, the
Republicans impeached Clinton for lying about sex. Isn't it far more logical
to impeach a President for lying about a situation where American lives were
lost and are still being lost?

John

The whole lot of them suck the big one. Bush is patting soldiers on the
head
when he himself went AWOL. Eh.

Watch for all these patting on the head shots in next year's Republican
campaign. Those and cheering soldier as Dubya appears with be exploited to
the max....

(Bill Oliver) expounded:

And it's not nearly as simple as the global-warming chicken little's
make it out to be either. You mention the shrinking Arctic glacial
deposits -- what about the growing Antarctic and Greenland deposits?
If there is global warming, why is there a net *increase* in ice and
a net *lowering* of the sea level?

http://visibleearth.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/viewrecord?11526

The global warming hysteria is built on models that simply don't
work, and global warming hysterics are forced to plead to explanations
that accept *any* data. Things are getting warmer? It's global
warming!!! Things are getting cooler? It's global warming!!!
Is the sea level rising? It's global warming!!! Is the sea
level lowering? It's global warming!!!

The amusing thing about the argument that Arctic melting causes
paradoxical global cooling is that the *opposite* argument also
holds -- that Arctic melting that causes global warming. See:

http://www.globalwarming.org/sciup/sci10-2-02.htm


Personally, I'll wait another 20 years to hear the hysterics go back
to the global cooling scare, like they were 20 years ago:

http://www.globalclimate.org/Newsweek.htm

I've said all along that we don't have enough historical climatic data
to ascertain that global warming is anything more than the cyclical
changes the earth has undergone in eons. I am in no way discounting
what humans are doing to our home, but I do think the two (climate and
human harm) aren't as connected as the chickens would like us to
believe.

--
Ann, Gardening in zone 6a
Just south of Boston, MA
********************************

On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 19:55:29 -0500, "B & J" wrote:


Yes, Gore did have the popular vote, but Dubya got the electoral votes. What
irks me about Gore is that he so busily running away from Clinton that he
refused to use him where he would have made a big difference. He was much
too pious for his own good. In addition, Gore failed to carry his home state
which would have given him the election without Florida. Gore and his
handlers ran a really stupid campaign. Dubya didn't win the election; Gore
lost it.

Point taken. Slick, Gore was not. Not to mention that dub had the entire
political right on his side on the radios 24/7 touting the graces of the Bush
family.

Let's see: The twins of dub are alcoholic-like in that they use fake id in and
around Austin where they are very recognized and clearly people know they are
not yet 21. Jeb, the brother/governor of Florida has a daughter who is cocaine
addicted, I believe crack, specifically...and was arrested. Dub himself had an
alcohol/gambling problem and though he said he stopped, never went for therapy
or any other type of character building act. He was AWOL from the military, and
he landed with a pilot on a ship a month ago with a way too tight flight suit so
his meat and vegetables were all a bulge. Now I need a shower.

Maybe if he ignores his exact words, they'll go away if he changes the
tense? Or did we misunderstand his pronunciation? :-) So far no one is
really holding his hands to the fire on this issue. What I would like to see
is a group of Democrats assemble and start impeachment proceedings against
Dubya for lying to the American people and the world . After all, the
Republicans impeached Clinton for lying about sex. Isn't it far more logical
to impeach a President for lying about a situation where American lives were
lost and are still being lost?

It appears nobody is holding his hand to the fire, but we will see what happens
in 04. I am hoping that this is the biggest turn out of all time and we have a
great democratic candidate (who I can't tell) and we get him out of office. I
would love the impeachment process because he indeed lied, or his "intelligence"
lied, or someone lied and continues to lie, but I don't think it will happen.


Watch for all these patting on the head shots in next year's Republican
campaign. Those and cheering soldier as Dubya appears with be exploited to
the max....


The photo ops are already in place with the head rubbing and solemn face of a
president. Yick I can't stand this guy.

When is that dude going to get his furnace fixed? Maybe he should just turn
it off now?

You know that Algore has got his brain safely stored away in a lockbox and
only Tipper has the key!!

The only reason Dubaya was "elected" president was because of all those
"hanging chads" in his brother's state and the supreme court rolled over and
played dead!!!!

Sit UBU, sit. ARF. Good boy!

Have you noticed that the "Bush twins" look nothing like each other. One
looks more like his brother Jeb! Its good to know that brothers can help
each other out in a time of need!



animaux wrote in message
...
On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 19:55:29 -0500, "B & J"
wrote:


Yes, Gore did have the popular vote, but Dubya got the electoral votes.
What
irks me about Gore is that he so busily running away from Clinton that he
refused to use him where he would have made a big difference. He was much
too pious for his own good. In addition, Gore failed to carry his home
state
which would have given him the election without Florida. Gore and his
handlers ran a really stupid campaign. Dubya didn't win the election;
Gore
lost it.

Point taken. Slick, Gore was not. Not to mention that dub had the entire
political right on his side on the radios 24/7 touting the graces of the
Bush
family.

Let's see: The twins of dub are alcoholic-like in that they use fake id
in and
around Austin where they are very recognized and clearly people know they
are
not yet 21. Jeb, the brother/governor of Florida has a daughter who is
cocaine
addicted, I believe crack, specifically...and was arrested. Dub himself
had an
alcohol/gambling problem and though he said he stopped, never went for
therapy
or any other type of character building act. He was AWOL from the
military, and
he landed with a pilot on a ship a month ago with a way too tight flight
suit so
his meat and vegetables were all a bulge. Now I need a shower.

Maybe if he ignores his exact words, they'll go away if he changes the
tense? Or did we misunderstand his pronunciation? :-) So far no one is
really holding his hands to the fire on this issue. What I would like to
see
is a group of Democrats assemble and start impeachment proceedings
against
Dubya for lying to the American people and the world . After all, the
Republicans impeached Clinton for lying about sex. Isn't it far more
logical
to impeach a President for lying about a situation where American lives
were
lost and are still being lost?

It appears nobody is holding his hand to the fire, but we will see what
happens
in 04. I am hoping that this is the biggest turn out of all time and we
have a
great democratic candidate (who I can't tell) and we get him out of
office. I
would love the impeachment process because he indeed lied, or his
"intelligence"
lied, or someone lied and continues to lie, but I don't think it will
happen.


Watch for all these patting on the head shots in next year's Republican
campaign. Those and cheering soldier as Dubya appears with be exploited
to
the max....


The photo ops are already in place with the head rubbing and solemn face
of a
president. Yick I can't stand this guy.

animaux wrote:
he landed with a pilot on a ship a month ago with a way too tight flight
suit so his meat and vegetables were all a bulge. Now I need a shower.


Sounds like you have The Hots for the guy...

Best regards,
Bob

On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:45:12 -0500, zxcvbob wrote:

animaux wrote:
he landed with a pilot on a ship a month ago with a way too tight flight
suit so his meat and vegetables were all a bulge. Now I need a shower.


Sounds like you have The Hots for the guy...

Best regards,
Bob

Nah. I have the hots for Brad Pitt or Heather Locklear, the igit, nah.

"animaux" wrote in message
...

The photo ops are already in place with the head rubbing and solemn face
of a
president. Yick I can't stand this guy.

You're not alone on that point. One of my Democratic friends used the term
"weasel" describe him. At one time he was a brown stoat, but he has turned
to a white weasel for the Christian right. The black tip on the end of his
tail still gives him away, which still makes him the champion of the party
by the rich, of the rich, and for the rich. All the other stances he takes
are postures he takes to win the sound bite war and gain votes from single
issue voters.

On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 19:37:28 -0500, "B & J"
wrote:

All the other stances he takes
are postures he takes to win the sound bite war and gain votes from single
issue voters.



"I'm sure there will be moments when we don't agree 100% of the time"

BWBush

On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 19:23:48 -0700, des weges wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 19:37:28 -0500, "B & J"
wrote:

All the other stances he takes
are postures he takes to win the sound bite war and gain votes from single
issue voters.



"I'm sure there will be moments when we don't agree 100% of the time"

BWBush

"Nukular"
-GW Bush

My vote is with Dean or Kerry

"B & J" wrote in message
...
"animaux" wrote in message
...

Curious how Rush terrifies leftists and whiggers.

Nope, no terror, mostly laughter. I was missing Bozo....

He does make a big bafoon of himself on a daily basis, doesn't he. No
shortage
of Rush wannabee types out there who follow his show all day long. NPR
is
TOO
sleepy. There must be some type medium which will address problems in
the
country with adequate language and strength who support the democratic
party.
Of course, it seems we have a new party now, The Liberal Left. Amazing.

And just who is the voice of the Liberal Left? Even Kennedy is all for
compromise with Dubya on the senior drug issue. Lieberman is a
quasi-Republican, so why bother considering him. Gephardt is Missouri's
Stassen. Edwards has too many ties to his days of injury lawsuits. Graham
of
Florida is a possibility, but he has the personality of cold oatmeal.
Kerry
is a married to the Heinz fortune. Gore blew his wad when he lost a sure
thing. Dean of Vermont would do nothing in the South, but I like him. Who
else is available?

The only one of the Democratic politicos who has the ovaries to go after
Dubya is Hillary. The problem is that the electorate either love or hate
her, although her poll numbers are now a positive 43% that doesn't win an
election.

What I would like to see is enough Democrats go after Dubya about "weapons
of mass destruction" so that it becomes an election issue. I have a
feeling
that the Republicans are really squirming over this issue.

John