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Baby Shampoo as Horticultural Soap
I dunno that I'll ever have need of this little tidbit, but it kinda
interested me, as I used to use dishwashing soap as a horticultural soap to get rid of aphids, until I discovered a good hard spray of water did the job just as well, without injury to ladybug larvae. Jerry Baker (thuggish anti-marijuana hippy-head-bashing police officer cum "America's Master Gardener") suggests using baby shampoo instead of dishwashing OR horticultural soap, because baby shampoo has a very small amount of fungicide in it as well. That was news to me, but interesting, & possibly useful to know. -paghat the ratgirl -- "Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher. "Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature. -from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers" See the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com/ |
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Speaking of aphids, is it possible that the aphids that appear on my Staghorn
Fern are actually spores? |
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TOM KAN PA wrote: Speaking of aphids, is it possible that the aphids that appear on my Staghorn Fern are actually spores? More likely than not. I have yet to see aphids bother any species of fern, even tropical, epiphytic ferns. pam - gardengal |
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Baby Shampoo as Horticultural Soap
I have always used Dr Bonners liquid peppermint soap on my plants for years.
I used it on my babies 30 years ago too, and they never once had an aphid or fungus show up on them! ;-) Val "paghat" wrote in message news I dunno that I'll ever have need of this little tidbit, but it kinda interested me, as I used to use dishwashing soap as a horticultural soap to get rid of aphids, until I discovered a good hard spray of water did the job just as well, without injury to ladybug larvae. Jerry Baker (thuggish anti-marijuana hippy-head-bashing police officer cum "America's Master Gardener") suggests using baby shampoo instead of dishwashing OR horticultural soap, because baby shampoo has a very small amount of fungicide in it as well. That was news to me, but interesting, & possibly useful to know. -paghat the ratgirl -- "Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher. "Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature. -from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers" See the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com/ |
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The important part of horticultural soap is the level of fatty acid it has as
its active ingredient. This is what's in baby shampoo by the brand name: Johnson's Baby Shampoo - moisturizing formula with honey & vitamin E water ,PEG-80 sorbitan laurate, cocamidopropyl betaine, sodium trideceth sulfate, glycerin, PEG-150 disterate, disodium lauroamphodi-acetate, sodium laureth-13, carboxylate, fragrance, poly-quaternium-10, honey, tocopherol acetate, tetrasodium EDTA, quaterium-15,FD&C yellow #6, FD&C yellow #5, FD&C red #4, FD&C red #33, FD&C blue #1 Which of the above ingredients is a fungicide? Possibly if an uppity health food store sells one with tea tree oil in it, possibly he is referring to that. Maybe one of the listed above is from tea tree oil or neem tree oil. I don't see where there is fatty acid in the above listing, but that is what causes the contact pesticide, insecticidal soap, effective. I know you know that, but many people may not know that. When I use baby shampoo, my hands don't burn. When I get fatty acid found in insecticidal soap on my skin, it burns. Jerry Baker? Could there be a more ignorant asshole on television selling his stupid shit? I doubt it. On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 09:31:36 -0700, (paghat) wrote: I dunno that I'll ever have need of this little tidbit, but it kinda interested me, as I used to use dishwashing soap as a horticultural soap to get rid of aphids, until I discovered a good hard spray of water did the job just as well, without injury to ladybug larvae. Jerry Baker (thuggish anti-marijuana hippy-head-bashing police officer cum "America's Master Gardener") suggests using baby shampoo instead of dishwashing OR horticultural soap, because baby shampoo has a very small amount of fungicide in it as well. That was news to me, but interesting, & possibly useful to know. -paghat the ratgirl |
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In article 1059767771.100031@yasure, "Valkyrie" wrote:
I have always used Dr Bonners liquid peppermint soap on my plants for years. I used it on my babies 30 years ago too, and they never once had an aphid or fungus show up on them! ;-) Val Ooo! Loved that Dr Bonners' ABCs of Rabbi Hillel's Splendid Easy 1-2-3 of Eternal Wisdom! The founder of that company was believed by his family to be a complete nut with his silly-ass stoned-sounding philosophy printed all over the labels, & no one had much to do with him or his company while he was alive. When the guy died, though, the family discovered belatedly that he was crazy likea fox, making millions, & suddenly everyone greatly valued his splendid label-writings. -paghat the ratgirl -- "Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher. "Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature. -from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers" See the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com/ |
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"Beecrofter" wrote in message om... (paghat) wrote in message ... I dunno that I'll ever have need of this little tidbit, but it kinda interested me, as I used to use dishwashing soap as a horticultural soap to get rid of aphids, until I discovered a good hard spray of water did the job just as well, without injury to ladybug larvae. Jerry Baker (thuggish anti-marijuana hippy-head-bashing police officer cum "America's Master Gardener") suggests using baby shampoo instead of dishwashing OR horticultural soap, because baby shampoo has a very small amount of fungicide in it as well. That was news to me, but interesting, & possibly useful to know. -paghat the ratgirl Ivory bar soap swished around until the water looks a bit gray works fine. I wonder how Dr Bronners does? Dr Bonners works great! Val |
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animaux wrote in
: The important part of horticultural soap is the level of fatty acid it has as its active ingredient. This is what's in baby shampoo by the brand name: Johnson's Baby Shampoo - moisturizing formula with honey & vitamin E water ,PEG-80 sorbitan laurate, cocamidopropyl betaine, sodium trideceth sulfate, glycerin, PEG-150 disterate, disodium lauroamphodi-acetate, sodium laureth-13, carboxylate, fragrance, poly-quaternium-10, honey, tocopherol acetate, tetrasodium EDTA, quaterium-15,FD&C yellow #6, FD&C yellow #5, FD&C red #4, FD&C red #33, FD&C blue #1 Which of the above ingredients is a fungicide? Possibly if an uppity health food store sells one with tea tree oil in it, possibly he is referring to that. Maybe one of the listed above is from tea tree oil or neem tree oil. Honey supposedly has fungicidal (and bactericidal) properties. The rest of the stuff looks like standard shampoo ingredients (aside from the vitamin e). -- Salty |
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On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 02:21:16 GMT, Salty Thumb
wrote: Which of the above ingredients is a fungicide? Possibly if an uppity health food store sells one with tea tree oil in it, possibly he is referring to that. Maybe one of the listed above is from tea tree oil or neem tree oil. Honey supposedly has fungicidal (and bactericidal) properties. The rest of the stuff looks like standard shampoo ingredients (aside from the vitamin e). -- Salty I use insecticidal for houseplants only, and only when there is an infestation of scale on some of my ferns. I don't use any pesticides, natural or synthetic outdoors. V |
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Baby Shampoo as Horticultural Soap
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 12:56:07 -0700, "Valkyrie"
wrote: I have always used Dr Bonners liquid peppermint soap on my plants for years. I used it on my babies 30 years ago too, and they never once had an aphid or fungus show up on them! ;-) Val Me too! And quite effectively in commercial applications as well! Babyshampoo Ingredients from MSDS/Label Chemical CAS No / Unique ID Percent Sodium laureth sulfate 009004-82-4 Tetrasodium EDTA 000064-02-8 Fragrance/perfume(s) 000000-00-1 Polysorbate 20 009005-64-5 Cocamidopropyl betaine 061789-40-0 3-iodo-2-propynyl butyl carbamate 055406-53-6 Water 007732-18-5 Polyethylene glycol distearate 009005-08-7 Sodium lauroampho PG-acetate phosphate 999999-21-4 Oat extract 084012-26-0 |
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Baby Shampoo as Horticultural Soap
Honey supposedly has fungicidal (and bactericidal) properties. The rest
of the stuff looks like standard shampoo ingredients (aside from the vitamin e). -- Salty Honey is acid, it is oxegenated by the enzyme which splits the sugars making a little hydrogen peroxide , and it is osmotically unfriendly to bacterial growth because it is so dry. If you spill it on the ground the plants die too. |
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