Normally I don't get annoyed by things like this, but the last several times
I've taken my time to send out seeds and/or plants to people I've received not
one word. I wonder, did they get the plants/seeds, did I waste my time? My
money?

Please, if anyone here has received seeds and/or plants from me, a really nice
thing would be to minimally respond with a note of reception.

From now on, I will only send out plants and seeds to known people who actually
appreciate it.

I hope this post is not about me. I sent you an email thanking you for the
seeds. Maybe I sent it to the wrong email adress. So if I did, thank you
for the seeds and supplying information on it. I planted at the begining of
this week and hopefully they will all germinate.
-Theo

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from animaux contains these words:

Normally I don't get annoyed by things like this, but the last several times
I've taken my time to send out seeds and/or plants to people I've
received not
one word. I wonder, did they get the plants/seeds, did I waste my time? My
money?

Please, if anyone here has received seeds and/or plants from me, a
really nice
thing would be to minimally respond with a note of reception.

From now on, I will only send out plants and seeds to known people who
actually
appreciate it.

I've found the same rude new trend from several lurkers in
uk.rec.gardening, and so have others. One experience made me wonder if
some of these stranger-requests are just malicious timewasting from
trolls.

An unfamiliar name emailed asking me to post some root cuttings I'd
mentioned in a thread, to a land address in France (not cheap). When I
replied to the email the address bounced; a google archive search showed
zero posting history from the address or the sender's name. I put a
message for him on the group which got no reply. The plants didn't get
posted.

Janet

Scotland

Normally I don't get annoyed by things like this, but the last several
times
I've taken my time to send out seeds and/or plants to people I've
received not
one word. I wonder, did they get the plants/seeds, did I waste my time?
My
money?

Please, if anyone here has received seeds and/or plants from me, a really
nice
thing would be to minimally respond with a note of reception.

From now on, I will only send out plants and seeds to known people who
actually
appreciate it.

Oh dear - I know I'm one that you have kindly sent to - though I haven't
received it yet. Rest assured I would be singing praises if I had. I
generally go too far the other way... i.e. I don't shut up! I am new on
this particular group, but would like to think that I have an ounce of
decency.

Sorry that you've been offended :-(

As an aside, I'm still waiting to close on my house move. It's been almost
two weeks - almost everything is packed and I'm climbing the walls! Aghhh!
The garden is going to be an absolute pig sty by the time I get to it.
--
Lynda

On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 22:27:23 GMT, Purple Linny LeCompte
opined:


Oh dear - I know I'm one that you have kindly sent to - though I haven't
received it yet. Rest assured I would be singing praises if I had. I
generally go too far the other way... i.e. I don't shut up! I am new on
this particular group, but would like to think that I have an ounce of
decency.

Sorry that you've been offended :-(

As an aside, I'm still waiting to close on my house move. It's been almost
two weeks - almost everything is packed and I'm climbing the walls! Aghhh!
The garden is going to be an absolute pig sty by the time I get to it.

I sent the cactus pad out over a week ago. If you haven't received it, you
probably will not receive it.

I just get so annoyed when I go through the time and send things out. It was
not a few people, it was about 15 people over the last several weeks.

I'm sorry if you didn't receive it. I did send it.

Victoria

On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:51:26 GMT, Janet Baraclough
opined:


I've found the same rude new trend from several lurkers in
uk.rec.gardening, and so have others. One experience made me wonder if
some of these stranger-requests are just malicious timewasting from
trolls.

An unfamiliar name emailed asking me to post some root cuttings I'd
mentioned in a thread, to a land address in France (not cheap). When I
replied to the email the address bounced; a google archive search showed
zero posting history from the address or the sender's name. I put a
message for him on the group which got no reply. The plants didn't get
posted.

Janet

Scotland

Yes, it's annoying and time consuming. From now on, I will reserve my trading
and giving freely to those who I know, and who I've done trades with in the
past.

I think the world is changing, and for the worse. Possibly it's only an
American thing. People have become so anonymous and void. I mean, here it is
Christmas time, I'm Buddhist and I can somehow find it to say
"Merry Christmas" when in the stores, while the people with all the decorations
in their carts are pushing to the front of the line.

Strange times we're in. I find the US in a great decline, or immaturity in
societal development.

One of the things I loved most about the Internet (before every shmuck was here)
was the universal likeness we shared. Now everyone is online.

V

You got my thanks for the seeds you sent me. Right now not doing much outside as
the cold hurts my arm nowadays.


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towards an east that would not know another dawn.
But elsewhere the stars were still young and the light of morning
lingered: and along the path he once had followed, man would one day go
again."

Arthur C. Clarke, The City & The Stars

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Normally I don't get annoyed by things like this, but the last several times
I've taken my time to send out seeds and/or plants to people I've received not
one word. I wonder, did they get the plants/seeds, did I waste my time? My
money?

Please, if anyone here has received seeds and/or plants from me, a really nice
thing would be to minimally respond with a note of reception.

From now on, I will only send out plants and seeds to known people who
actually
appreciate it.


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Not everyone is online, while it might seem so, in the USA, only about 1/3rd of
all people in the US are online.
While a good 1/2 of the people don't even have a computer.


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"In this universe the night was falling,the shadows were lengthening
towards an east that would not know another dawn.
But elsewhere the stars were still young and the light of morning
lingered: and along the path he once had followed, man would one day go
again."

Arthur C. Clarke, The City & The Stars

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here)
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V


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On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 18:09:12 GMT, animaux wrote:

Normally I don't get annoyed by things like this, but the last several times
I've taken my time to send out seeds and/or plants to people I've received not
one word. I wonder, did they get the plants/seeds, did I waste my time? My
money?

Please, if anyone here has received seeds and/or plants from me, a really nice
thing would be to minimally respond with a note of reception.

From now on, I will only send out plants and seeds to known people who actually
appreciate it.
I always let you know when I get something from you V. I am letting
you know I haven't received anything but good feelings towards me in
the last few weeks. I'm just hanging around up here on the ridge
slipping into a pit of darkness. sgI hope all is well with you down
in Texas. I wish you a happy up and coming Yule
madgardener

Normally I don't get annoyed by things like this, but the last several times
I've taken my time to send out seeds and/or plants to people I've received not
one word. I wonder, did they get the plants/seeds, did I waste my time? My
money?

I've had the same experience in a number of situations, including "desperate"
people featured in reputable newspapers who have a very sick child, etc. I've
lost count of the times I sent off a small or not so small amount to the
address cited. So far, I have gotten back a total of one thank-you note.

I don't have a clue as to this behavior among your recipients or mine, except
perhaps they were brought up to feel "entitled" to anything they could wheedle
out of another person, and not obligated to thank a sucker.

Maybe, too, the rather ungeneous thought arises, they live in a subculture
where a sick child is not automatically taken to a doctor, you ignore your
landlord until a notice to vacate goes up on your door, etc.
zemedelec

I'm Buddhist and I can somehow find it to say
"Merry Christmas" when in the stores, while the people with all the decorations
in their carts are pushing to the front of the line.
BRBR

I hope you've had the chance to see the Chinese family in the Marina district,
SF, who every Christmas celebrates by putting enormous, well-lighted plastic
divinities, about 8, on their lawn. They're probably Taoist, but they bring
you up short with a grin--at least they do me.
zemedelec

On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 23:01:02 GMT, animaux wrote:
I sent the cactus pad out over a week ago. If you haven't received it,
you
probably will not receive it.

I may still receive it. I waited ten days for a package recently. I called
the people that sent it, checking they got my address right - which they
had - they were about to send me another package when the first one
arrived. You know, this may be the reason that my house move is being
delayed so long... hehe, so that my cactus pad doesn't get into the
redirect route ;-) We haven't setup the redirect yet as we haven't closed -
nightmare! In fact, I thought it arrived yesterday, but it turned out to be
an early Christmas present from rels.

I just checked my mail and it was the 18th that you posted. Hmmm, that it a
little while ago. Another pad donation was sent on the 20th and not
received either. I've not given up hope yet.

I just get so annoyed when I go through the time and send things out. It
was
not a few people, it was about 15 people over the last several weeks.

I understand. As one of those types of people myself - willing to do alomst
anything to help someone out, sometimes we do get trampled on. In reference
to your other post - I totally agree that it is getting worse. In my bible
it is known as hearts growing cold. So sad.

I'm sorry if you didn't receive it. I did send it.

Don't worry, I believe you :-)
If/when it gets here, it will get special attention.
Best,
--
Lynda

animaux wrote:

Normally I don't get annoyed by things like this, but the last several times
I've taken my time to send out seeds and/or plants to people I've received not
one word. I wonder, did they get the plants/seeds, did I waste my time? My
money?

You have good reason to feel annoyed. If you're doing a favor for
somebody--and spending money, to boot--you should at the very least receive
an acknowledgement. That's not too much to ask.


Eric

On 04 Dec 2003 00:04:21 GMT, pamfree (Zemedelec)
wrote:


I've had the same experience in a number of situations, including "desperate"
people featured in reputable newspapers who have a very sick child, etc. I've
lost count of the times I sent off a small or not so small amount to the
address cited. So far, I have gotten back a total of one thank-you note.

"Charity begins at home." That is, with local agencies and entities
whose record you can check. Keep track of the newspaper story (and
reporter. Nearly all articles in my local paper identify the reporter
with phone # and e-mail address), and inquire, either before
contributing or as a follow-up. OTOH, for "an account has been
established for the XYZ family," there may be no way (or no way they
know about) to respond to each contributor. You might seek out a
single local enterprise -- soup kitchen, shelter, church -- and
concentrate your efforts there, where you actually know who's in
charge and what they do. After years of seeing reports in local media
about a man who collected and distributed food and clothing to those
in distress, I made *his* mission my Christmas charity.

On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 19:04:47 -0500, madgardener opined:


I always let you know when I get something from you V. I am letting
you know I haven't received anything but good feelings towards me in
the last few weeks. I'm just hanging around up here on the ridge
slipping into a pit of darkness. sgI hope all is well with you down
in Texas. I wish you a happy up and coming Yule
madgardener

Oh dear, I hope all is well. I haven't been following all the threads, but did any
decision of moving come up yet? Please don't slip into the pit of darkness. I've been
there. Not fun.

As to down here, things are still in the 70s and growing. This year was the neatest I've
been in the garden! By now, the gardens look like the out back!

YOU will always get plants and seeds from me! That you can count on.

V