On 27 Jul 2004 16:52:51 GMT, (DavesVideo) opined:

escapee said:

It is and it shouldn't be posted here. There are dozens and
dozens of political groups. Post your views in one of them.

No, post them here too. Nobody moderates this newsgroup.

An unmoderated news group should thus be moderated by the restraint of the
posters. I have seen many newsgroups degenerate and become worhless due to off
topic posting.


Dave
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You haven't been here very long. This newsgroup has never had such a thing
happen. Not during its worst trolling stints.


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On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:44:28 -0400, wrote:

or that they don't garden?


There're just substandard gardeners relying on polluting solutions
rather than gardening skill...

"Sue" wrote in message
...
Thanks for that bit, Z. Here in Maine we are about to experience Lowes
in
competition with HD.
2 Lowes stores, one in Brunswick and one in Auburn.

The Auburn Store will be in quadrangle with HD, Super Wal-Mart, and BJ's
Wholesale Club. Another Big Box property on the same "strip" is yet to
be
disclosed, was the former Wal-mart.

Simply put, I'm looking for the best deal on an Echo 210 Staight Shaft
Trimmer and the brush blade that goes with. HD has the lowest price in
Maine at the moment and I'm holding out at this point for end of season
sales.

If I were purely politically oriented, I'd not buy from HD. But when MY
budget is tested on a product or a project, I'll shop for best price (
period).

choice is wonderful.

Be sure you are comparing apples to apples. Sometimes HD has products
produced to cheaper specifications that are sold only in its stores. The
Echo trimmer that you want may or may NOT be exactly the same at Lowe's,
Wal-Mart, and Home Depot.

Thanks for that bit, Z. Here in Maine we are about to experience Lowes in
competition with HD.
2 Lowes stores, one in Brunswick and one in Auburn.

The Auburn Store will be in quadrangle with HD, Super Wal-Mart, and BJ's
Wholesale Club. Another Big Box property on the same "strip" is yet to be
disclosed, was the former Wal-mart.

Simply put, I'm looking for the best deal on an Echo 210 Staight Shaft
Trimmer and the brush blade that goes with. HD has the lowest price in
Maine at the moment and I'm holding out at this point for end of season
sales.

If I were purely politically oriented, I'd not buy from HD. But when MY
budget is tested on a product or a project, I'll shop for best price (
period).

choice is wonderful.

sue
western Maine

far away from anywhere.




--
Breeze ( sue burnham)
"Zemedelec" wrote in message
...
| Maybe this is much too off topic, but a friend of mine who is much more of
a
| political animal than I am told me HD is heavily supported by rich
Republicans
| such as Arthur Blank, the
| president of Home Depot, who hosted a dinner
| in Atlanta that gave Bush $2.5 million. So any of you whose whole lives,
| including gardening, are permeated with their political convictions might
want
| to go to Loew's, etc. if you need to buy at a big chain store.
| zemedelec

"Sue" wrote in message
...
Thanks for that bit, Z. Here in Maine we are about to experience Lowes
in
competition with HD.
2 Lowes stores, one in Brunswick and one in Auburn.

The Auburn Store will be in quadrangle with HD, Super Wal-Mart, and BJ's
Wholesale Club. Another Big Box property on the same "strip" is yet to
be
disclosed, was the former Wal-mart.

Simply put, I'm looking for the best deal on an Echo 210 Staight Shaft
Trimmer and the brush blade that goes with. HD has the lowest price in
Maine at the moment and I'm holding out at this point for end of season
sales.

If I were purely politically oriented, I'd not buy from HD. But when MY
budget is tested on a product or a project, I'll shop for best price (
period).

choice is wonderful.

Be sure you are comparing apples to apples. Sometimes HD has products
produced to cheaper specifications that are sold only in its stores. The
Echo trimmer that you want may or may NOT be exactly the same at Lowe's,
Wal-Mart, and Home Depot.

In article , "Vox Humana"
wrote:

"Sue" wrote in message
...
Thanks for that bit, Z. Here in Maine we are about to experience Lowes
in
competition with HD.
2 Lowes stores, one in Brunswick and one in Auburn.

The Auburn Store will be in quadrangle with HD, Super Wal-Mart, and BJ's
Wholesale Club. Another Big Box property on the same "strip" is yet to
be
disclosed, was the former Wal-mart.

Simply put, I'm looking for the best deal on an Echo 210 Staight Shaft
Trimmer and the brush blade that goes with. HD has the lowest price in
Maine at the moment and I'm holding out at this point for end of season
sales.

If I were purely politically oriented, I'd not buy from HD. But when MY
budget is tested on a product or a project, I'll shop for best price (
period).

choice is wonderful.

Be sure you are comparing apples to apples. Sometimes HD has products
produced to cheaper specifications that are sold only in its stores. The
Echo trimmer that you want may or may NOT be exactly the same at Lowe's,
Wal-Mart, and Home Depot.

Almost anything sold by any of these crap-o-mats can be found to have a
parallel product vastly better from Seers. I'm no huge fan of Seers, but
I'm far less a fan of products that break easily or don't even work, which
is what you get at (in order of crappiness) Home Depot & its ilk. And all
too often, the illusion of having saved a dollar by paying $10 at Home
Depot for what costs $11 at Seers, since the Lowes product breaks right
away it's actually $10 too much, & since the Seers version lasts for years
& years, it's the real bargain.

I've also gotten superior products at Ace Hardware & Fred Meyers, in some
cases after having to return unutterable junky versions to Home Depot or
Lowes. I have hardly ever set foot in WalMart, but the couple times I ever
got anything there (a garden light comes to mind) it was broken in a
trice, so WalMart slipped off my map entirely. I do still compare-shop at
Home Depot & Lowes, but anything that has two or more moving parts to it
is guaranteed not to work as well (if at all) as the equivalent from
Seers. It's just the way it always works out.

-paghat the ratgirl

--
"Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher.
"Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature.
-from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers"
Visit the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com

In article , "Vox Humana"
wrote:

"Sue" wrote in message
...
Thanks for that bit, Z. Here in Maine we are about to experience Lowes
in
competition with HD.
2 Lowes stores, one in Brunswick and one in Auburn.

The Auburn Store will be in quadrangle with HD, Super Wal-Mart, and BJ's
Wholesale Club. Another Big Box property on the same "strip" is yet to
be
disclosed, was the former Wal-mart.

Simply put, I'm looking for the best deal on an Echo 210 Staight Shaft
Trimmer and the brush blade that goes with. HD has the lowest price in
Maine at the moment and I'm holding out at this point for end of season
sales.

If I were purely politically oriented, I'd not buy from HD. But when MY
budget is tested on a product or a project, I'll shop for best price (
period).

choice is wonderful.

Be sure you are comparing apples to apples. Sometimes HD has products
produced to cheaper specifications that are sold only in its stores. The
Echo trimmer that you want may or may NOT be exactly the same at Lowe's,
Wal-Mart, and Home Depot.

Almost anything sold by any of these crap-o-mats can be found to have a
parallel product vastly better from Seers. I'm no huge fan of Seers, but
I'm far less a fan of products that break easily or don't even work, which
is what you get at (in order of crappiness) Home Depot & its ilk. And all
too often, the illusion of having saved a dollar by paying $10 at Home
Depot for what costs $11 at Seers, since the Lowes product breaks right
away it's actually $10 too much, & since the Seers version lasts for years
& years, it's the real bargain.

I've also gotten superior products at Ace Hardware & Fred Meyers, in some
cases after having to return unutterable junky versions to Home Depot or
Lowes. I have hardly ever set foot in WalMart, but the couple times I ever
got anything there (a garden light comes to mind) it was broken in a
trice, so WalMart slipped off my map entirely. I do still compare-shop at
Home Depot & Lowes, but anything that has two or more moving parts to it
is guaranteed not to work as well (if at all) as the equivalent from
Seers. It's just the way it always works out.

-paghat the ratgirl

--
"Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher.
"Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature.
-from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers"
Visit the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com

"Vox Humana" wrote in message
...
Be sure you are comparing apples to apples. Sometimes HD has products
produced to cheaper specifications that are sold only in its stores. The
Echo trimmer that you want may or may NOT be exactly the same at Lowe's,
Wal-Mart, and Home Depot.

They all do the same thing. One of the biggest fish-heads they use to lure
people into the store is "exclusively at such & such" or "only at HD".

It's a fact manufacturers will not sell to discount stores the exact same
item the authorized dealers sell.

Same goes for their garden plants/shrubs, they sell the items wholesale
nurseries can't sell to re-wholesalers. They are rejects or lesser quality
than you purchase through a wholesaler or retailer. I know this because I
work for the largest re-wholesaler in the nation.

If I were purely politically oriented, I'd not buy from HD. But when MY
budget is tested on a product or a project, I'll shop for best price (
period).

Shopping for the best price is a political choice, though that may not
be readily apparent. There are lots of folks who'd rather you didn't,
and lots of places where you can't.

choice is wonderful.

Yes it is, isn't it?

Swyck

If I were purely politically oriented, I'd not buy from HD. But when MY
budget is tested on a product or a project, I'll shop for best price (
period).

Shopping for the best price is a political choice, though that may not
be readily apparent. There are lots of folks who'd rather you didn't,
and lots of places where you can't.

choice is wonderful.

Yes it is, isn't it?

Swyck

On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 22:51:38 GMT, "Vox Humana"
wrote:
wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 18:49:51 GMT, "Vox Humana"
wrote:
I think that rude posts and name calling are what disrupt newsgroups, not
off-topic posts.

I agree, and I think the original post was not only off-topic but
rude, condescending, and disrupting.

I hope it doesn't ruin the rest of your week.

Actually it made my day.

Swyck

wrote in message
...

If I were purely politically oriented, I'd not buy from HD. But when MY
budget is tested on a product or a project, I'll shop for best price (
period).

Shopping for the best price is a political choice, though that may not
be readily apparent. There are lots of folks who'd rather you didn't,
and lots of places where you can't.

I am probably more thrifty than most people. Still, I realize that the
price on the shelf tag or sticker isn't the only consideration. Plants from
a big box store aren't necessarily the bargain that they appear to be.
Often they have wilted over and over again. Items may be dumbed down,
look-alike products that are cheaper than what you might find for a little
more elsewhere. Sometimes the help you get from knowledgeable sales people
adds value to the product. From a political standpoint, you have to
consider if the money you pay for an item will eventually be used against
you or contrary to your values. Will you buy cheap now and then use tax
dollars to clean up a toxic waste site left by that company. Will you buy
cheap now and pay for the food stamps of the poorly paid employees? Will
you buy cheap now because the store receives generous tax breaks when the
established store in town goes broke and stops paying taxes. Will the
store ship all the profits back to a distant headquarters, or worse, will it
ship jobs overseas. Knowing that the top guy at HD earns $22 million
dollars sort of disturbs me when I see people working in the stores who are
obviously a paycheck away from being homeless. Knowing that a chunk of the
money goes to a political movement that is unpinned by a philosophy of cheap
labor also troubles me. Given that knowledge, I will shop elsewhere when I
can. I'm not suggesting that anyone else should follow, nor am I ignoring
the fact that people of other political conviction make purchase decisions
using the same logic. The religious right has avoided Disney products for
years. Others mount boycotts against media outlets like CBS. Political
shopping isn't a practice owned by any particular group.

In article ,
pamfree says...
Maybe this is much too off topic, but a friend of mine who is much more of a
political animal than I am told me HD is heavily supported by rich Republicans

No, it's supported by its' customers, many of which are
hard-working tradesman and building trades company owners,
and stockholders, many of which are undoubtedly mutual
funds, which, without doubt, many Liberals hold as part of
their retirement plan.

So to say HD is supported by "rich Republicans" is pure
bullshit.

So any of you whose whole lives,
including gardening, are permeated with their political convictions might want
to go to Loew's, etc. if you need to buy at a big chain store.

Seems to me that you're making the (false) assumption that
gardeners can't be conservative.

How very narrow-minded and bigoted of you. Just like a
Liberal.

--
Mark

The truth as I perceive it to be.
Your perception may be different.

Triple Z is spam control.

"Mark" wrote in message
th.net...
In article ,
pamfree says...

Seems to me that you're making the (false) assumption that
gardeners can't be conservative.

That's a peculiar conclusion. It seems like an advisory statement to me.
"This is what I heard. If it bothers you then consider shopping elsewhere"
It didn't preclude the possibility that someone would be conservative.

How very narrow-minded and bigoted of you. Just like a
Liberal.


Pot, Kettle, Black.

"Mark" wrote in message
th.net...


How very narrow-minded and bigoted of you. Just like a
Liberal.

Now there's an oxymoronic statement for you!!

Personally, I don't see how anyone could object to this thread. OT or not,
it's the best entertainment I've had in weeks! Didja ever notice how at the
firt sign of a political statement or difference of opinion, folks seem to
lose all ability at rational thought? But then politics tends to bring out
the idiot in us all. How else can we explain away the last 4 years?