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Red wrote:
On Oct 19, 5:52 am, "Clark..." wrote:

Should I stop spraying them with Brush-B-Gone too??
I'm not much of a tree lover anyway, but I do like our liriodendron
tulipifera (tulip tree) I understand they are pretty rare in my area (I
don't know).
Nevermind I've decided I do like trees, as they burn nice in my fireplace.
;-)


Hey, most trees I've planted in my yard have become firewood sometime
in it's life. If they develop undesireable traits, they're gone &
replaced. Most recent was a 40yo silver maple that wouldn't keep it's
roots under the soil. :)
Anyone know if sawtooth oaks have any bad habits before I let it get
big?

Red

Why don't you guys just plant a groundcover under the trees? No more
mowing and no more problem with the above ground roots. You're happy.
The tree is happy.
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"Bob F" wrote:
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YES if you put it up against the bark it will kill most trees. What
kind of tree and how old.


Can you provide any good documentation of that? I have a neighbor who
added up to 2 feet of soil around the trunk of two poplar trees on my
side of his yard. I tried to explain it would kill the trees, and he said
"my sources say it is no problem". I'd sure like to get better data.

Bob

I'd rather cut down those poplar's, sometimes they will make a divit when
they fall on their own.


They almost completely block my south sun. I'd love it if he removed them, and
have told him so (politely)

Bob


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the roots of the trees are exposed
Will it hurt the trees to add 1-2 feet of soil around them so I can mow
around them?

CathyLee


Not sure Cathy, even after reading all the reply data to date.

Common tree I saw at my great-grandfather's home is the pecan. Not sure
which type of pecan, I was young. They were 50-60 feet high. The roots
were about halfway above the soil line. Couldn't get a lawnmower over it
while running, blade would strike the root. These were big stinker roots.
Was common in the fall to have fallen leaves well above the root upper
surface. Mostly, these roots were exposed all the time.

Common in my neck of the woods are juniper ashe. They have many surface
traveler roots. These roots usually get buried by their own fallen
leaves/needles. If very dry and windy for awhile, these roots will get
exposed again in some cases. Mostly not. A quick pass with a bow rake will
easily expose these roots.

Yet, I've seen common as most people in urban areas, trees surface roots
covered with concrete except a small area around the trunk. Perhaps even
asphalt. And, in some cases, for a tree that's been in that arena for
awhile, may be pushing the concrete away from the trunk. Its rare as such
tree gets cut down before that can happen.

But, what do we know? We're just common folk observing the real world.
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On Oct 21, 4:50 pm, wrote:


Why don't you guys just plant a groundcover under the trees? No more
mowing and no more problem with the above ground roots. You're happy.
The tree is happy.


That's ok IF you like the look of ground cover around a tree. I
don't. Therefore I wouldn't be happy. And the tree's happiness does
not come before mine.

Red


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Red wrote:
On Oct 21, 4:50 pm, wrote:

Why don't you guys just plant a groundcover under the trees? No more
mowing and no more problem with the above ground roots. You're happy.
The tree is happy.


That's ok IF you like the look of ground cover around a tree. I
don't. Therefore I wouldn't be happy. And the tree's happiness does
not come before mine.

Red


Your happiness is to kill the tree? Why don't you just cut the trees
down then? Sheeeeeesh.


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Eggs Zachtly wrote:
Clark... said:

CathyLee wrote:
the roots of the trees are exposed
Will it hurt the trees to add 1-2 feet of soil around them so I can
mow around them?

CathyLee


Don't listen to these guys, I bury my tree's all the time!
works great with the few remaining black walnut trees I have and
it keeps down the 10" pine sticks of doom!


It shortens the trees' life, dood. That's fact. The roots go where the
oxygen, water, and nutrients, that that tree needs, are located. If
you put them (the roots) lower in the soil (even by a few inches),
you're depriving the tree of one, or even all of them.



OK OK I'm almost done, I just need some advice on some problems that came
up,

Allright, I exposed all the roots I could on three tree's, but now I have
all this extra dirt everywhere, huge holes in the ground, and the tree's
won't stand up anymore, the poor things just fell over after I dug up the
roots.

Two questions:
A. Can I use strong cables attached to the tree's and stake them all around
so they stop tipping over? (and what kinda cable)?
2. What should I do about all the dirt I removed? will the local dump take
it?

I don't want my tree's to die from lack of water oxygen and nutrients!!
please respond promptly as my trees are laying their sides and wilting
badly!!!!

Clark... :-p
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Clark... wrote:
Eggs Zachtly wrote:
Clark... said:

CathyLee wrote:
the roots of the trees are exposed
Will it hurt the trees to add 1-2 feet of soil around them so I can
mow around them?

CathyLee
Don't listen to these guys, I bury my tree's all the time!
works great with the few remaining black walnut trees I have and
it keeps down the 10" pine sticks of doom!

It shortens the trees' life, dood. That's fact. The roots go where the
oxygen, water, and nutrients, that that tree needs, are located. If
you put them (the roots) lower in the soil (even by a few inches),
you're depriving the tree of one, or even all of them.



OK OK I'm almost done, I just need some advice on some problems that came
up,

Allright, I exposed all the roots I could on three tree's, but now I have
all this extra dirt everywhere, huge holes in the ground, and the tree's
won't stand up anymore, the poor things just fell over after I dug up the
roots.

Two questions:
A. Can I use strong cables attached to the tree's and stake them all around
so they stop tipping over? (and what kinda cable)?
2. What should I do about all the dirt I removed? will the local dump take
it?

I don't want my tree's to die from lack of water oxygen and nutrients!!
please respond promptly as my trees are laying their sides and wilting
badly!!!!

Clark... :-p



One answer.
You've got problems dude. [;^p
Actually, if you leave them be, they will eventually stand up by
themselves. Leave a banjo in the branches and they will give you a
concert. Put a guitar in another branch and they will play deliverance
all day long. I wonder what would happen if you threw in a set of drums.
Maybe you'd get a power tree-o. Ha ha ha ha ha !
Get it? A power tree-o?????
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Clark... wrote:
Eggs Zachtly wrote:
Clark... said:

CathyLee wrote:
the roots of the trees are exposed
Will it hurt the trees to add 1-2 feet of soil around them so I
can mow around them?

CathyLee
Don't listen to these guys, I bury my tree's all the time!
works great with the few remaining black walnut trees I have and
it keeps down the 10" pine sticks of doom!
It shortens the trees' life, dood. That's fact. The roots go where
the oxygen, water, and nutrients, that that tree needs, are
located. If you put them (the roots) lower in the soil (even by a
few inches), you're depriving the tree of one, or even all of them.



OK OK I'm almost done, I just need some advice on some problems
that came up,

Allright, I exposed all the roots I could on three tree's, but
now I have all this extra dirt everywhere, huge holes in the ground,
and the tree's won't stand up anymore, the poor things just fell
over after I dug up the roots.

Two questions:
A. Can I use strong cables attached to the tree's and stake them all
around so they stop tipping over? (and what kinda cable)?
2. What should I do about all the dirt I removed? will the local
dump take it?

I don't want my tree's to die from lack of water oxygen and
nutrients!! please respond promptly as my trees are laying their
sides and wilting badly!!!!

Clark... :-p



One answer.
You've got problems dude. [;^p

You don't know the half of it, lol
Actually, if you leave them be, they will eventually stand up by
themselves. Leave a banjo in the branches and they will give you a
concert. Put a guitar in another branch and they will play deliverance
all day long. I wonder what would happen if you threw in a set of
drums. Maybe you'd get a power tree-o. Ha ha ha ha ha !
Get it? A power tree-o?????

A power tree-o..... yikes that's about as bad as my jokes,
Tip of the day, when she says, Do I look fat in this outfit? don't say,
well... kinda, trust me.

Clark...
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On Oct 18, 6:15 pm, "Clark..." wrote:

by the way I have plenty of trees with no exposed roots WTF?


The city gave us for free those cheapo compost bins, just a sheet of
heavy vinyl with holes in it that wraps into a cylinder about 3 feet
across by 3 feet high, so they wouldn't have to haul the leaves away.
So, I set it up and stuck all the leaves in there last year, and
grass clippings and banana peels and so on. Anyway by now, it's pretty
composty, so I decided to empty it out now and put this year's leaves
in there. But it was pretty tough digging it out from the top with a
pitchfork, so I just unwrapped the plastic, and it all just stood
there. The tree roots had come up from the ground into the compost and
it's now just a 3X3X3 foot ball of roots with a couple of inches of
compost on top.

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The city gave us for free those cheapo compost bins, just a sheet of
heavy vinyl with holes in it that wraps into a cylinder about 3 feet
across by 3 feet high, so they wouldn't have to haul the leaves away.
So, I set it up and stuck all the leaves in there last year, and
grass clippings and banana peels and so on. Anyway by now, it's pretty
composty, so I decided to empty it out now and put this year's leaves
in there. But it was pretty tough digging it out from the top with a
pitchfork, so I just unwrapped the plastic, and it all just stood
there. The tree roots had come up from the ground into the compost and
it's now just a 3X3X3 foot ball of roots with a couple of inches of
compost on top.


ROTFLMAO

sometimes like every once in awhile I feel sad and sorry
for people who have no other option than to exist within
the jurisdiction of a city.
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On Oct 24, 5:55 pm, Jim wrote:
z wrote:

The city gave us for free those cheapo compost bins, just a sheet of
heavy vinyl with holes in it that wraps into a cylinder about 3 feet
across by 3 feet high, so they wouldn't have to haul the leaves away.
So, I set it up and stuck all the leaves in there last year, and
grass clippings and banana peels and so on. Anyway by now, it's pretty
composty, so I decided to empty it out now and put this year's leaves
in there. But it was pretty tough digging it out from the top with a
pitchfork, so I just unwrapped the plastic, and it all just stood
there. The tree roots had come up from the ground into the compost and
it's now just a 3X3X3 foot ball of roots with a couple of inches of
compost on top.


ROTFLMAO

sometimes like every once in awhile I feel sad and sorry
for people who have no other option than to exist within
the jurisdiction of a city.


Well, maybe I can put a patio around it and make it into a patio
table.

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On Oct 18, 6:15 pm, "Clark..." wrote:

by the way I have plenty of trees with no exposed roots WTF?


The city gave us for free those cheapo compost bins, just a sheet of
heavy vinyl with holes in it that wraps into a cylinder about 3 feet
across by 3 feet high, so they wouldn't have to haul the leaves away.
So, I set it up and stuck all the leaves in there last year, and
grass clippings and banana peels and so on. Anyway by now, it's pretty
composty, so I decided to empty it out now and put this year's leaves
in there. But it was pretty tough digging it out from the top with a
pitchfork, so I just unwrapped the plastic, and it all just stood
there. The tree roots had come up from the ground into the compost and
it's now just a 3X3X3 foot ball of roots with a couple of inches of
compost on top.


You've got some amazing tree roots to do that in one year. I usually go 2 or 3
years before emptying my bins, and they only get a few roots at the very bottom
in that time.

Bob


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