Our favorite entomologist, Michael Waldvogel, talking about
carpenter bees, is quoted in the paper today.
http://www.newsobserver.com/lifestyl...-8896592c.html.
Congrats Michael!
Raleighgirl

Thanks... I hadn't seen the article yet, but I'm dismayed by the comments
about Sevin from the guy at Lowes. Sevin is a good pesticide, but most
gardners know (or should know) that it's hell on bees (ALL bees, not just
honey bees) and to say that it's "non-toxic" to humans and pets is
stretching
it. Also, his advice on spreading Sevin in the crawlspace is illegal
(I can't find
a label that says you can apply it in a crawlspace as he describes);
it's stupid
and hazardous (which usually go hand-in-hand). If you're applying a
dust in a
confined area (like a crawlspace), you need more than a dust mask
(like... how
about protecting your eyes for one thing) and there's the "minor" issue of
that pesticide entering your ventilation system (the systems are often
far from air-tight). If you were to try it (and I strongly discourage
it), you
would turn off the AC system for several hours.

I think Lowes needs to transfer Jim to hardware or plumbing supplies.


Raleighgirl wrote:
Our favorite entomologist, Michael Waldvogel, talking about
carpenter bees, is quoted in the paper today.
http://www.newsobserver.com/lifestyl...-8896592c.html.
Congrats Michael!
Raleighgirl




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Michael Waldvogel, PhD
Extension Specialist, Structural & Industrial Pests
North Carolina State University
Dept. of Entomology, Campus Box 7613, 4318 Gardner Hall
Raleigh, NC USA 27695-7613
Ph: 919.515.8881 Fax: 919.515.7746 Cell: 919.801.4108
Email:
http://entomology.ncsu.edu/waldvogel

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Mike,
Ewwwww, I was horrified at the thought of spreading Sevin with a
fan in the crawlspace. Agreed that Jim needs to be transferred,
but I think the appliance section would be more fitting.

O, and Mike, is there a bee ID site that's particularly good? We
have a "new" kind of bee around here. It's cylindrical, and
orange-y colored; not the typical shape or color. One of my
neighbors is all freaked out about them and says they attacked
her child although unprovoked. Anyway, I'd like to do a little
research and share it as I am thrilled with any type of bee that
knows how to pollinate the veggies in my garden.
Thanks,
Raleighgirl

"Michael Waldvogel" wrote in message
...
| Thanks... I hadn't seen the article yet, but I'm dismayed by
the comments
| about Sevin from the guy at Lowes. Sevin is a good pesticide,
but most
| gardners know (or should know) that it's hell on bees (ALL
bees, not just
| honey bees) and to say that it's "non-toxic" to humans and pets
is
| stretching
| it. Also, his advice on spreading Sevin in the crawlspace is
illegal
| (I can't find
| a label that says you can apply it in a crawlspace as he
describes);
| it's stupid
| and hazardous (which usually go hand-in-hand). If you're
applying a
| dust in a
| confined area (like a crawlspace), you need more than a dust
mask
| (like... how
| about protecting your eyes for one thing) and there's the
"minor" issue of
| that pesticide entering your ventilation system (the systems
are often
| far from air-tight). If you were to try it (and I strongly
discourage
| it), you
| would turn off the AC system for several hours.
|
| I think Lowes needs to transfer Jim to hardware or plumbing
supplies.
|
|
| Raleighgirl wrote:
| Our favorite entomologist, Michael Waldvogel, talking about
| carpenter bees, is quoted in the paper today.
|
http://www.newsobserver.com/lifestyl...-8896592c.html.
| Congrats Michael!
| Raleighgirl
|
|
|
|
| --
| ---------------------------------------------------------------
---------
|
| Michael Waldvogel, PhD
| Extension Specialist, Structural & Industrial Pests
| North Carolina State University
| Dept. of Entomology, Campus Box 7613, 4318 Gardner Hall
| Raleigh, NC USA 27695-7613
| Ph: 919.515.8881 Fax: 919.515.7746 Cell: 919.801.4108
| Email:
| http://entomology.ncsu.edu/waldvogel
|
| ---------------------------------------------------------------
---------
|
|

Sure sounds like a Japanese Hornet to me. Those things are mean as...
well... as hornets! 8*)
Mark

On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:46:44 GMT, "Raleighgirl"
wrote:

....
O, and Mike, is there a bee ID site that's particularly good? We
have a "new" kind of bee around here. It's cylindrical, and
orange-y colored; not the typical shape or color. One of my
neighbors is all freaked out about them and says they attacked
her child although unprovoked. Anyway, I'd like to do a little
research and share it as I am thrilled with any type of bee that
knows how to pollinate the veggies in my garden.
Thanks,
Raleighgirl

I've heard more than one occasion where the help from Home Depot & Lowes
have given poor advice concerning pesticides. I know NC has a pesticide
license for consultants. It would seem to me that they would fall into that
category but maybe not.

--
Baine


"Michael Waldvogel" wrote in message
...
Thanks... I hadn't seen the article yet, but I'm dismayed by the comments
about Sevin from the guy at Lowes. Sevin is a good pesticide, but most
gardners know (or should know) that it's hell on bees (ALL bees, not just
honey bees) and to say that it's "non-toxic" to humans and pets is
stretching
it. Also, his advice on spreading Sevin in the crawlspace is illegal
(I can't find
a label that says you can apply it in a crawlspace as he describes);
it's stupid
and hazardous (which usually go hand-in-hand). If you're applying a
dust in a
confined area (like a crawlspace), you need more than a dust mask
(like... how
about protecting your eyes for one thing) and there's the "minor" issue of
that pesticide entering your ventilation system (the systems are often
far from air-tight). If you were to try it (and I strongly discourage
it), you
would turn off the AC system for several hours.

I think Lowes needs to transfer Jim to hardware or plumbing supplies.


Raleighgirl wrote:
Our favorite entomologist, Michael Waldvogel, talking about
carpenter bees, is quoted in the paper today.
http://www.newsobserver.com/lifestyl...-8896592c.html.
Congrats Michael!
Raleighgirl




--
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Michael Waldvogel, PhD
Extension Specialist, Structural & Industrial Pests
North Carolina State University
Dept. of Entomology, Campus Box 7613, 4318 Gardner Hall
Raleigh, NC USA 27695-7613
Ph: 919.515.8881 Fax: 919.515.7746 Cell: 919.801.4108
Email:
http://entomology.ncsu.edu/waldvogel

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On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:47:40 -0400 in Baine Carruthers wrote:
I've heard more than one occasion where the help from Home Depot & Lowes
have given poor advice concerning pesticides. I know NC has a pesticide
license for consultants. It would seem to me that they would fall into that
category but maybe not.

Can you actually see someone that shelled out the money for a pesticide
license working somewhere other than the windows, flooring, or drapes
department at lowes or the BORG?

(I remember in a home despot the retired plumber was stuck in appliances
because having him on the plumbing aisle was killing sales).
--
Chris Dukes
Suspicion breeds confidence -- Brazil

O no, no, no. Sorry I left out the part that these guys are
smaller than a honey bee.
Thanks tho.
Jw
"Mark Craver" wrote in message
...
| Sure sounds like a Japanese Hornet to me. Those things are
mean as...
| well... as hornets! 8*)
| Mark
|
| On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:46:44 GMT, "Raleighgirl"
| wrote:
|
| ...
| O, and Mike, is there a bee ID site that's particularly good?
We
| have a "new" kind of bee around here. It's cylindrical, and
| orange-y colored; not the typical shape or color. One of my
| neighbors is all freaked out about them and says they attacked
| her child although unprovoked. Anyway, I'd like to do a
little
| research and share it as I am thrilled with any type of bee
that
| knows how to pollinate the veggies in my garden.
| Thanks,
| Raleighgirl
|

On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 23:14:16 GMT, "Raleighgirl"
wrote:

O no, no, no. Sorry I left out the part that these guys are
smaller than a honey bee.
Thanks tho.
Jw

Sounds like yellow jackets. They will attack unprovoked. My kids,
when about ages 4 & 6 came in screaming with them stuck to their
clothes. Luckily they only had 4 stings each, but many lodged in
their clothes. After a bath in cornstarch water and tears dried,
they told me they were sitting there watching them go in and out of
the hole in the ground... they were so interesting. (Grown today and
not entomologists. hah)
Kira

On the topic of salespeople and expert advice, I was in the Southern
States in Carrboro a few years ago and mentioned to a guy there (also
named Jim... the good to his evil twin at Lowe's, perhaps?) that I had
bees boring into the sides of the log home I was renting at the time.
Southern States Jim told me they were carpenter bees and gave me almost
exactly the advice described in the N&O article. He was great! So,
perhaps more of a specialty store like Southern States is the place to
go.

I managed to beat them back that year with Southern States Jim's advice,
but the next they were back with a vengeance and now the friends who
still live there tell me sitting on the back deck, under the overhang,
they are continually dusted with sawdust. Blech. After living with them
for three years in that log home, they were the first thing I looked for
when house-shopping for a place of my own. With a non-pun knock on wood,
I'm clear so far.

--
Michael Williams "Babies are really lardy."
--Kat
www.ibiblio.org/michael "But they're full of life!"
www.robustmcmanlypants.org/blog/ --Josh

That description with the size constraint you mentioned in another
email doesn't bring anything to mind. There are syrphid flies that
are very bee-like in appearance but they're not going to sting
someone.

Raleighgirl wrote:
Mike,
Ewwwww, I was horrified at the thought of spreading Sevin with a
fan in the crawlspace. Agreed that Jim needs to be transferred,
but I think the appliance section would be more fitting.

O, and Mike, is there a bee ID site that's particularly good? We
have a "new" kind of bee around here. It's cylindrical, and
orange-y colored; not the typical shape or color. One of my
neighbors is all freaked out about them and says they attacked
her child although unprovoked. Anyway, I'd like to do a little
research and share it as I am thrilled with any type of bee that
knows how to pollinate the veggies in my garden.
Thanks,
Raleighgirl

"Michael Waldvogel" wrote in message
...
| Thanks... I hadn't seen the article yet, but I'm dismayed by
the comments
| about Sevin from the guy at Lowes. Sevin is a good pesticide,
but most
| gardners know (or should know) that it's hell on bees (ALL
bees, not just
| honey bees) and to say that it's "non-toxic" to humans and pets
is
| stretching
| it. Also, his advice on spreading Sevin in the crawlspace is
illegal
| (I can't find
| a label that says you can apply it in a crawlspace as he
describes);
| it's stupid
| and hazardous (which usually go hand-in-hand). If you're
applying a
| dust in a
| confined area (like a crawlspace), you need more than a dust
mask
| (like... how
| about protecting your eyes for one thing) and there's the
"minor" issue of
| that pesticide entering your ventilation system (the systems
are often
| far from air-tight). If you were to try it (and I strongly
discourage
| it), you
| would turn off the AC system for several hours.
|
| I think Lowes needs to transfer Jim to hardware or plumbing
supplies.
|
|
| Raleighgirl wrote:
| Our favorite entomologist, Michael Waldvogel, talking about
| carpenter bees, is quoted in the paper today.
|
http://www.newsobserver.com/lifestyl...-8896592c.html.
| Congrats Michael!
| Raleighgirl
|
|
|
|
| --
| ---------------------------------------------------------------
---------
|
| Michael Waldvogel, PhD
| Extension Specialist, Structural & Industrial Pests
| North Carolina State University
| Dept. of Entomology, Campus Box 7613, 4318 Gardner Hall
| Raleigh, NC USA 27695-7613
| Ph: 919.515.8881 Fax: 919.515.7746 Cell: 919.801.4108
| Email:
| http://entomology.ncsu.edu/waldvogel
|
| ---------------------------------------------------------------
---------
|
|




--
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Michael Waldvogel, PhD
Extension Specialist, Structural & Industrial Pests
North Carolina State University
Dept. of Entomology, Campus Box 7613, 4318 Gardner Hall
Raleigh, NC USA 27695-7613
Ph: 919.515.8881 Fax: 919.515.7746 Cell: 919.801.4108
Email:
http://entomology.ncsu.edu/waldvogel

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Mike and others,
After spending hours looking at bees, wasps and flies (I really
need to get a life), this is the closest I could find:
Diptera Stratiomyidae or Soldier flies. This picture is pretty
close but I don't remember the head being so prominent.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...gwydir.demon.c
o.uk/insects/thumb/chlo_form.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.gwydir.demo
n.co.uk/insects/photoindex.htm&h=100&w=100&sz=3&tbnid=ltptmozbS74
J:&tbnh=77&tbnw=77&hl=en&start=31&prev=/images%3Fq%3DDiptera%2BSt
ratiomyidae%26start%3D20%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3D N which is
Chloromyia formosa (Scopoli, 1763).
Only problem is it's not an insect that stings. Do flies
pollinate veggie plants, too, or is that solely a bee's
responsibility?
Jw


"Michael Waldvogel" wrote in message
...
| That description with the size constraint you mentioned in
another
| email doesn't bring anything to mind. There are syrphid flies
that
| are very bee-like in appearance but they're not going to sting
| someone.
|
| Raleighgirl wrote:
| Mike,
| Ewwwww, I was horrified at the thought of spreading Sevin
with a
| fan in the crawlspace. Agreed that Jim needs to be
transferred,
| but I think the appliance section would be more fitting.
|
| O, and Mike, is there a bee ID site that's particularly good?
We
| have a "new" kind of bee around here. It's cylindrical, and
| orange-y colored; not the typical shape or color. One of my
| neighbors is all freaked out about them and says they
attacked
| her child although unprovoked. Anyway, I'd like to do a
little
| research and share it as I am thrilled with any type of bee
that
| knows how to pollinate the veggies in my garden.
| Thanks,
| Raleighgirl
|
| "Michael Waldvogel" wrote in
message
| ...
| | Thanks... I hadn't seen the article yet, but I'm dismayed
by
| the comments
| | about Sevin from the guy at Lowes. Sevin is a good
pesticide,
| but most
| | gardners know (or should know) that it's hell on bees (ALL
| bees, not just
| | honey bees) and to say that it's "non-toxic" to humans and
pets
| is
| | stretching
| | it. Also, his advice on spreading Sevin in the crawlspace
is
| illegal
| | (I can't find
| | a label that says you can apply it in a crawlspace as he
| describes);
| | it's stupid
| | and hazardous (which usually go hand-in-hand). If you're
| applying a
| | dust in a
| | confined area (like a crawlspace), you need more than a
dust
| mask
| | (like... how
| | about protecting your eyes for one thing) and there's the
| "minor" issue of
| | that pesticide entering your ventilation system (the
systems
| are often
| | far from air-tight). If you were to try it (and I strongly
| discourage
| | it), you
| | would turn off the AC system for several hours.
| |
| | I think Lowes needs to transfer Jim to hardware or plumbing
| supplies.
| |
| |
| | Raleighgirl wrote:
| | Our favorite entomologist, Michael Waldvogel, talking
about
| | carpenter bees, is quoted in the paper today.
| |
|
http://www.newsobserver.com/lifestyl...-8896592c.html.
| | Congrats Michael!
| | Raleighgirl
| |
| |
| |
| |
| | --
|
| ---------------------------------------------------------------
| ---------
| |
| | Michael Waldvogel, PhD
| | Extension Specialist, Structural & Industrial Pests
| | North Carolina State University
| | Dept. of Entomology, Campus Box 7613, 4318 Gardner Hall
| | Raleigh, NC USA 27695-7613
| | Ph: 919.515.8881 Fax: 919.515.7746 Cell: 919.801.4108
| | Email:
| | http://entomology.ncsu.edu/waldvogel
| |
|
| ---------------------------------------------------------------
| ---------
| |
| |
|
|
|
|
| --
| ---------------------------------------------------------------
---------
|
| Michael Waldvogel, PhD
| Extension Specialist, Structural & Industrial Pests
| North Carolina State University
| Dept. of Entomology, Campus Box 7613, 4318 Gardner Hall
| Raleigh, NC USA 27695-7613
| Ph: 919.515.8881 Fax: 919.515.7746 Cell: 919.801.4108
| Email:
| http://entomology.ncsu.edu/waldvogel
|
| ---------------------------------------------------------------
---------
|
|

I would be willing to bet the yellowjackets thought they were provoked. They
build new underground nests each spring, sometimes in places you used to
populate. If you walk on that spot, you are a provoking intruder.

I found my nest just last week. Ouch.


"Kira Dirlik" !! wrote in message
...
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 23:14:16 GMT, "Raleighgirl"
wrote:

O no, no, no. Sorry I left out the part that these guys are
smaller than a honey bee.
Thanks tho.
Jw

Sounds like yellow jackets. They will attack unprovoked. My kids,
when about ages 4 & 6 came in screaming with them stuck to their
clothes. Luckily they only had 4 stings each, but many lodged in
their clothes. After a bath in cornstarch water and tears dried,
they told me they were sitting there watching them go in and out of
the hole in the ground... they were so interesting. (Grown today and
not entomologists. hah)
Kira

Well - there is alot of food for thought here... For one.. I have been
bombarded by these things. I just put some wood putty in the holes as i
find them. I used to shoot some sevin up in the holes until i read a story
about these kinds of dusts hurting honey bees. So i just plug the holes.
Sure it's work but if you use the wood putty and fill the hole you get your
strength back in the wood. And if you must... to be sure... squirt some
wasp stuff up the hole, let it dry for a few days and then plug the hole
with wood putty.


"Raleighgirl" wrote in message
m...
Our favorite entomologist, Michael Waldvogel, talking about
carpenter bees, is quoted in the paper today.
http://www.newsobserver.com/lifestyl...-8896592c.html.
Congrats Michael!
Raleighgirl

Putting Sevin Dust into a hole and sealing it does not
imperil honey bees any more than squirting a wasp spray
in the gallery. The advantage of the dust is that it is
more durable and effective because the carpenter bees
pick it up on their body. The issue with honey bees
occurs when you spray a chemical such as Sevin (or
just about any of the currently used insecticides) over an
area where bees are actively foraging (e.g., in your garden).
The bees come into direct contact with the chemical on
the flowers and they pick up contaminated pollen and carry
it back to the hive.

Simply puttying over the opening to a carpenter bee gallery
may work, but the bees can quite easily just chew their way
through the putty or they make proceed to excavate another
opening elsewhere. You might try putting a wad of aluminum
foil in the hole first then putty the opening, but the Sevin
Dust still improves the likelihood of success of killing off
the ones inside. However, as you soon discover that does
nothing to stop future attacks from carpenter bees.




bud wrote:

Well - there is alot of food for thought here... For one.. I have been
bombarded by these things. I just put some wood putty in the holes as i
find them. I used to shoot some sevin up in the holes until i read a story
about these kinds of dusts hurting honey bees. So i just plug the holes.
Sure it's work but if you use the wood putty and fill the hole you get your
strength back in the wood. And if you must... to be sure... squirt some
wasp stuff up the hole, let it dry for a few days and then plug the hole
with wood putty.


"Raleighgirl" wrote in message
om...


Our favorite entomologist, Michael Waldvogel, talking about
carpenter bees, is quoted in the paper today.
http://www.newsobserver.com/lifestyl...-8896592c.html.
Congrats Michael!
Raleighgirl









--
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Michael Waldvogel, PhD
Extension Specialist, Structural & Industrial Pests
North Carolina State University
Dept. of Entomology, Campus Box 7613, 4318 Gardner Hall
Raleigh, NC USA 27695-7613
Ph: 919.515.8881 Fax: 919.515.7746 Cell: 919.801.4108
Email:
http://entomology.ncsu.edu/waldvogel

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