Hello everyone!

I have a piece ( stem ) of Vanilla Plenifolia rooting in water and I was
wondering what kind of media to use?
Anyone tried the S/H?
Any Vanilla growers out there?

thanks

Claude


--

It doesn't really need medium -- just something to climb. If you are in a
tropical climate, just tie it to the base of a tree. Otherwise, make a
good-size trellis [largest that you can move in to protect for winter], and
try to train it to grow around rather than straight up -- planifolia grows
FAST once it gets started!

V. pompona is slower growing, but more cold-tolerant -- ours [growing up a
pine tree] was set back, but not killed, by a couple of near-freezes last
winter. V. planifolia will not tolerate that much cold.
--
Kenni Judd
Juno Beach Orchids
http://www.jborchids.com

"Claude" wrote in message
...
Hello everyone!

I have a piece ( stem ) of Vanilla Plenifolia rooting in water and I was
wondering what kind of media to use?
Anyone tried the S/H?
Any Vanilla growers out there?

thanks

Claude


--

Thanks Kenni!

I live in Montreal sol I will have to grow it indoor!
What are the best condition?
I grow under fluorescent but I was thinking to suspend my Vanilla beside my
Hoya Bella, in front of my South window!

Claude


"Kenni Judd" wrote in message
...
| It doesn't really need medium -- just something to climb. If you are in a
| tropical climate, just tie it to the base of a tree. Otherwise, make a
| good-size trellis [largest that you can move in to protect for winter],
and
| try to train it to grow around rather than straight up -- planifolia grows
| FAST once it gets started!
|
| V. pompona is slower growing, but more cold-tolerant -- ours [growing up a
| pine tree] was set back, but not killed, by a couple of near-freezes last
| winter. V. planifolia will not tolerate that much cold.
| --
| Kenni Judd
| Juno Beach Orchids
| http://www.jborchids.com
|
| "Claude" wrote in message
| ...
| Hello everyone!
|
| I have a piece ( stem ) of Vanilla Plenifolia rooting in water and I was
| wondering what kind of media to use?
| Anyone tried the S/H?
| Any Vanilla growers out there?
|
| thanks
|
| Claude
|
|
| --
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|

Well, that sounds like good light for now, but what are you going to do with
it when it starts really growing? My first grew about 30' [yes, that's
feet not inches -- about 10 metres if you're on metric] in one season; of
course, the first major cold snap "solved" that problem for me :(
--
Kenni Judd
Juno Beach Orchids
http://www.jborchids.com

"Claude" wrote in message
...
Thanks Kenni!

I live in Montreal sol I will have to grow it indoor!
What are the best condition?
I grow under fluorescent but I was thinking to suspend my Vanilla beside
my
Hoya Bella, in front of my South window!

Claude


"Kenni Judd" wrote in message
...
| It doesn't really need medium -- just something to climb. If you are in
a
| tropical climate, just tie it to the base of a tree. Otherwise, make a
| good-size trellis [largest that you can move in to protect for winter],
and
| try to train it to grow around rather than straight up -- planifolia
grows
| FAST once it gets started!
|
| V. pompona is slower growing, but more cold-tolerant -- ours [growing up
a
| pine tree] was set back, but not killed, by a couple of near-freezes
last
| winter. V. planifolia will not tolerate that much cold.
| --
| Kenni Judd
| Juno Beach Orchids
| http://www.jborchids.com
|
| "Claude" wrote in message
| ...
| Hello everyone!
|
| I have a piece ( stem ) of Vanilla Plenifolia rooting in water and I
was
| wondering what kind of media to use?
| Anyone tried the S/H?
| Any Vanilla growers out there?
|
| thanks
|
| Claude
|
|
| --
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|

Hello!

30 feet in one season !!! Wow!

I guess I`m in trouble ! :-)
I`ll see what I can do for this one! Now, my problem is which container am I
gonna use for it!
I grow mostly Phal in S/H culture ( LECA ).So, should I use LECA or dirt?
So Ì can take every piece of advice you can give me!

Thanks

Claude

"Kenni Judd" wrote in message
...
| Well, that sounds like good light for now, but what are you going to do
with
| it when it starts really growing? My first grew about 30' [yes, that's
| feet not inches -- about 10 metres if you're on metric] in one season; of
| course, the first major cold snap "solved" that problem for me :(
| --
| Kenni Judd
| Juno Beach Orchids
| http://www.jborchids.com
|
| "Claude" wrote in message
| ...
| Thanks Kenni!
|
| I live in Montreal sol I will have to grow it indoor!
| What are the best condition?
| I grow under fluorescent but I was thinking to suspend my Vanilla beside
| my
| Hoya Bella, in front of my South window!
|
| Claude
|
|
| "Kenni Judd" wrote in message
| ...
| | It doesn't really need medium -- just something to climb. If you are
in
| a
| | tropical climate, just tie it to the base of a tree. Otherwise, make
a
| | good-size trellis [largest that you can move in to protect for
winter],
| and
| | try to train it to grow around rather than straight up -- planifolia
| grows
| | FAST once it gets started!
| |
| | V. pompona is slower growing, but more cold-tolerant -- ours [growing
up
| a
| | pine tree] was set back, but not killed, by a couple of near-freezes
| last
| | winter. V. planifolia will not tolerate that much cold.
| | --
| | Kenni Judd
| | Juno Beach Orchids
| | http://www.jborchids.com
| |
| | "Claude" wrote in message
| | ...
| | Hello everyone!
| |
| | I have a piece ( stem ) of Vanilla Plenifolia rooting in water and I
| was
| | wondering what kind of media to use?
| | Anyone tried the S/H?
| | Any Vanilla growers out there?
| |
| | thanks
| |
| | Claude
| |
| |
| | --
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|

Claude: My initial point was, it really doesn't matter too much what you
put in the pot, because that's not where most of the plant and its roots are
going to be. Roots form near each pair of leaves, and they need something
to climb. When we put them on trees, we don't bury any portion of the plant
itself, we just set the base of the vine very close to the ground so that it
"looks" planted.

For you: Plant a trellis in a good-size pot [8" or better] -- wooden
trellis, or I guess you could strap some treefern totems together to make a
trellis -- or maybe set a long piece of freshwater driftwood on a stand --
in something reasonably heavy [otherwise, the vine on the trellis is going
to get top-heavy and start falling over]. Then mount the vanilla on the
trellis or driftwood.

Good growing, Kenni


"Claude" wrote in message
...
Hello!

30 feet in one season !!! Wow!

I guess I`m in trouble ! :-)
I`ll see what I can do for this one! Now, my problem is which container am
I
gonna use for it!
I grow mostly Phal in S/H culture ( LECA ).So, should I use LECA or dirt?
So Ì can take every piece of advice you can give me!

Thanks

Claude

"Kenni Judd" wrote in message
...
| Well, that sounds like good light for now, but what are you going to do
with
| it when it starts really growing? My first grew about 30' [yes, that's
| feet not inches -- about 10 metres if you're on metric] in one season;
of
| course, the first major cold snap "solved" that problem for me :(
| --
| Kenni Judd
| Juno Beach Orchids
| http://www.jborchids.com
|
| "Claude" wrote in message
| ...
| Thanks Kenni!
|
| I live in Montreal sol I will have to grow it indoor!
| What are the best condition?
| I grow under fluorescent but I was thinking to suspend my Vanilla
beside
| my
| Hoya Bella, in front of my South window!
|
| Claude
|
|
| "Kenni Judd" wrote in message
| ...
| | It doesn't really need medium -- just something to climb. If you
are
in
| a
| | tropical climate, just tie it to the base of a tree. Otherwise,
make
a
| | good-size trellis [largest that you can move in to protect for
winter],
| and
| | try to train it to grow around rather than straight up -- planifolia
| grows
| | FAST once it gets started!
| |
| | V. pompona is slower growing, but more cold-tolerant -- ours
[growing
up
| a
| | pine tree] was set back, but not killed, by a couple of near-freezes
| last
| | winter. V. planifolia will not tolerate that much cold.
| | --
| | Kenni Judd
| | Juno Beach Orchids
| | http://www.jborchids.com
| |
| | "Claude" wrote in message
| | ...
| | Hello everyone!
| |
| | I have a piece ( stem ) of Vanilla Plenifolia rooting in water and
I
| was
| | wondering what kind of media to use?
| | Anyone tried the S/H?
| | Any Vanilla growers out there?
| |
| | thanks
| |
| | Claude
| |
| |
| | --
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|

Claude: My initial point was, it really doesn't matter too much what you
put in the pot, because that's not where most of the plant and its roots are
going to be. Roots form near each pair of leaves, and they need something
to climb. When we put them on trees, we don't bury any portion of the plant
itself, we just set the base of the vine very close to the ground so that it
"looks" planted.

For you: Plant a trellis in a good-size pot [8" or better] -- wooden
trellis, or I guess you could strap some treefern totems together to make a
trellis -- or maybe set a long piece of freshwater driftwood on a stand --
in something reasonably heavy [otherwise, the vine on the trellis is going
to get top-heavy and start falling over]. Then mount the vanilla on the
trellis or driftwood.

Good growing, Kenni


"Claude" wrote in message
...
Hello!

30 feet in one season !!! Wow!

I guess I`m in trouble ! :-)
I`ll see what I can do for this one! Now, my problem is which container am
I
gonna use for it!
I grow mostly Phal in S/H culture ( LECA ).So, should I use LECA or dirt?
So Ì can take every piece of advice you can give me!

Thanks

Claude

"Kenni Judd" wrote in message
...
| Well, that sounds like good light for now, but what are you going to do
with
| it when it starts really growing? My first grew about 30' [yes, that's
| feet not inches -- about 10 metres if you're on metric] in one season;
of
| course, the first major cold snap "solved" that problem for me :(
| --
| Kenni Judd
| Juno Beach Orchids
| http://www.jborchids.com
|
| "Claude" wrote in message
| ...
| Thanks Kenni!
|
| I live in Montreal sol I will have to grow it indoor!
| What are the best condition?
| I grow under fluorescent but I was thinking to suspend my Vanilla
beside
| my
| Hoya Bella, in front of my South window!
|
| Claude
|
|
| "Kenni Judd" wrote in message
| ...
| | It doesn't really need medium -- just something to climb. If you
are
in
| a
| | tropical climate, just tie it to the base of a tree. Otherwise,
make
a
| | good-size trellis [largest that you can move in to protect for
winter],
| and
| | try to train it to grow around rather than straight up -- planifolia
| grows
| | FAST once it gets started!
| |
| | V. pompona is slower growing, but more cold-tolerant -- ours
[growing
up
| a
| | pine tree] was set back, but not killed, by a couple of near-freezes
| last
| | winter. V. planifolia will not tolerate that much cold.
| | --
| | Kenni Judd
| | Juno Beach Orchids
| | http://www.jborchids.com
| |
| | "Claude" wrote in message
| | ...
| | Hello everyone!
| |
| | I have a piece ( stem ) of Vanilla Plenifolia rooting in water and
I
| was
| | wondering what kind of media to use?
| | Anyone tried the S/H?
| | Any Vanilla growers out there?
| |
| | thanks
| |
| | Claude
| |
| |
| | --
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|

We put our Vanilla cutting in a ten inch pot with sphagnum. We used a series
of coconut fiber poles - that reached about 6 feet or so. It is in our plant
room and it grew past the poles and started growing on the walls. It reached
the ceiling (9 ft) and is now growing across the ceiling. It seems happy,
but has yet to bloom. I have heard various stories about what it takes to
bloom - it must start growing "down," it must be 20 feet long, etc, but have
not heard any definitive answers. The fact that it has not bloomed does not
bother our children. The fact that it is Vanilla and is growing on the
ceiling "IN THE HOUSE" makes them think it is very cool and gives them
bragging rites with their friends...

John

"Kenni Judd" wrote in message
...
Claude: My initial point was, it really doesn't matter too much what you
put in the pot, because that's not where most of the plant and its roots
are
going to be. Roots form near each pair of leaves, and they need something
to climb. When we put them on trees, we don't bury any portion of the
plant
itself, we just set the base of the vine very close to the ground so that
it
"looks" planted.

For you: Plant a trellis in a good-size pot [8" or better] -- wooden
trellis, or I guess you could strap some treefern totems together to make
a
trellis -- or maybe set a long piece of freshwater driftwood on a stand --
in something reasonably heavy [otherwise, the vine on the trellis is going
to get top-heavy and start falling over]. Then mount the vanilla on the
trellis or driftwood.

Good growing, Kenni


"Claude" wrote in message
...
Hello!

30 feet in one season !!! Wow!

I guess I`m in trouble ! :-)
I`ll see what I can do for this one! Now, my problem is which container
am
I
gonna use for it!
I grow mostly Phal in S/H culture ( LECA ).So, should I use LECA or
dirt?
So Ì can take every piece of advice you can give me!

Thanks

Claude

"Kenni Judd" wrote in message
...
| Well, that sounds like good light for now, but what are you going to
do
with
| it when it starts really growing? My first grew about 30' [yes,
that's
| feet not inches -- about 10 metres if you're on metric] in one
season;
of
| course, the first major cold snap "solved" that problem for me :(
| --
| Kenni Judd
| Juno Beach Orchids
| http://www.jborchids.com
|
| "Claude" wrote in message
| ...
| Thanks Kenni!
|
| I live in Montreal sol I will have to grow it indoor!
| What are the best condition?
| I grow under fluorescent but I was thinking to suspend my Vanilla
beside
| my
| Hoya Bella, in front of my South window!
|
| Claude
|
|
| "Kenni Judd" wrote in message
| ...
| | It doesn't really need medium -- just something to climb. If you
are
in
| a
| | tropical climate, just tie it to the base of a tree. Otherwise,
make
a
| | good-size trellis [largest that you can move in to protect for
winter],
| and
| | try to train it to grow around rather than straight up --
planifolia
| grows
| | FAST once it gets started!
| |
| | V. pompona is slower growing, but more cold-tolerant -- ours
[growing
up
| a
| | pine tree] was set back, but not killed, by a couple of
near-freezes
| last
| | winter. V. planifolia will not tolerate that much cold.
| | --
| | Kenni Judd
| | Juno Beach Orchids
| | http://www.jborchids.com
| |
| | "Claude" wrote in message
| | ...
| | Hello everyone!
| |
| | I have a piece ( stem ) of Vanilla Plenifolia rooting in water
and
I
| was
| | wondering what kind of media to use?
| | Anyone tried the S/H?
| | Any Vanilla growers out there?
| |
| | thanks
| |
| | Claude
| |
| |
| | --
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|

I just start my vanilla out in standard potting mix for regular plants or a
terrestrial orchid mix , as they usually start out terrestrial and become an
epiphytic vine.
Good luck !
Todd
"Claude" wrote in message
...
Hello everyone!

I have a piece ( stem ) of Vanilla Plenifolia rooting in water and I was
wondering what kind of media to use?
Anyone tried the S/H?
Any Vanilla growers out there?

thanks

Claude


--

Pampano is slower? could have fooled me.
I am a docent at the atlanta botanical gardens where they have several
pleni. I have a pompano at home and it has grown at least twice as
fast as the pleni.
There is a lot of good info from the comercial grower in Hawai, Doctor
Young? (cant remember his name) I have the info at home.I will try to
remember to get it when I get a chance.
Vanilla grow both ways terest. and not. Everything I read said plant
it in medium. (I have seen them growing in dirt,soilless mix,bark,
etc...mine at home is in bark and soiless mix with lots of perlite and
it has a root ball about 8 inches in diameter.)
I planted mine in a huge pot and tied two sections of tree fern pole
together for it to climb witch it did in the first year. Then I
started to loop it over and over and over... (supossed to make it
bloom more) I got my piece at 18 inches three years ago it is now over
28 feet long.

NOOK

Hello everyone!

I have a piece ( stem ) of Vanilla Plenifolia rooting in water and I was
wondering what kind of media to use?
Anyone tried the S/H?
Any Vanilla growers out there?

thanks

Claude

Pampano is slower? could have fooled me.
I am a docent at the atlanta botanical gardens where they have several
pleni. I have a pompano at home and it has grown at least twice as
fast as the pleni.
There is a lot of good info from the comercial grower in Hawai, Doctor
Young? (cant remember his name) I have the info at home.I will try to
remember to get it when I get a chance.
Vanilla grow both ways terest. and not. Everything I read said plant
it in medium. (I have seen them growing in dirt,soilless mix,bark,
etc...mine at home is in bark and soiless mix with lots of perlite and
it has a root ball about 8 inches in diameter.)
I planted mine in a huge pot and tied two sections of tree fern pole
together for it to climb witch it did in the first year. Then I
started to loop it over and over and over... (supossed to make it
bloom more) I got my piece at 18 inches three years ago it is now over
28 feet long.

NOOK

Hello everyone!

I have a piece ( stem ) of Vanilla Plenifolia rooting in water and I was
wondering what kind of media to use?
Anyone tried the S/H?
Any Vanilla growers out there?

thanks

Claude

Thank you all!

Claude


"NOOK" wrote in message
...
| Pampano is slower? could have fooled me.
| I am a docent at the atlanta botanical gardens where they have several
| pleni. I have a pompano at home and it has grown at least twice as
| fast as the pleni.
| There is a lot of good info from the comercial grower in Hawai, Doctor
| Young? (cant remember his name) I have the info at home.I will try to
| remember to get it when I get a chance.
| Vanilla grow both ways terest. and not. Everything I read said plant
| it in medium. (I have seen them growing in dirt,soilless mix,bark,
| etc...mine at home is in bark and soiless mix with lots of perlite and
| it has a root ball about 8 inches in diameter.)
| I planted mine in a huge pot and tied two sections of tree fern pole
| together for it to climb witch it did in the first year. Then I
| started to loop it over and over and over... (supossed to make it
| bloom more) I got my piece at 18 inches three years ago it is now over
| 28 feet long.
|
| NOOK
|
| Hello everyone!
|
| I have a piece ( stem ) of Vanilla Plenifolia rooting in water and I was
| wondering what kind of media to use?
| Anyone tried the S/H?
| Any Vanilla growers out there?
|
| thanks
|
| Claude
|

V. pompona is slower than planifolia for me, here in south Florida. [20'
in 2 years for the former, 35' in less than a year for the latter]. Your
mileage may vary. Or perhaps you are taking better care of your pompona, at
home, than the gardens are of their planifolia. The cold-tolerance
difference, I doubt would vary.
--
Kenni Judd
Juno Beach Orchids
http://www.jborchids.com


"NOOK" wrote in message
...
Pampano is slower? could have fooled me.
I am a docent at the atlanta botanical gardens where they have several
pleni. I have a pompano at home and it has grown at least twice as
fast as the pleni.
There is a lot of good info from the comercial grower in Hawai, Doctor
Young? (cant remember his name) I have the info at home.I will try to
remember to get it when I get a chance.
Vanilla grow both ways terest. and not. Everything I read said plant
it in medium. (I have seen them growing in dirt,soilless mix,bark,
etc...mine at home is in bark and soiless mix with lots of perlite and
it has a root ball about 8 inches in diameter.)
I planted mine in a huge pot and tied two sections of tree fern pole
together for it to climb witch it did in the first year. Then I
started to loop it over and over and over... (supossed to make it
bloom more) I got my piece at 18 inches three years ago it is now over
28 feet long.

NOOK

Hello everyone!

I have a piece ( stem ) of Vanilla Plenifolia rooting in water and I was
wondering what kind of media to use?
Anyone tried the S/H?
Any Vanilla growers out there?

thanks

Claude

I found a couple of sheets of info on another machine here at work. I
posted it to the Alt.binaries.pictures.orchids group as one big
chunk. posted under author....NOOK


dude
Thank you all!

Claude


NOOK
|
| Hello everyone!
|
| I have a piece ( stem ) of Vanilla Plenifolia rooting in water and I was
| wondering what kind of media to use?
| Anyone tried the S/H?
| Any Vanilla growers out there?
|
| thanks
|
| Claude
|