Wondering if red clover is as cold hardy and grow whereever white clover
grows.
I saw a picture of an Oregon field of red clover. But is red clover as
cold hardy
and drought resistant as white clover.

Archimedes Plutonium,
whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots
of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

As usual, your brain is up Uranus, Archie!!!

Red clover is native to North America, you idiot.

White clover was introduced from Europe.

Why don't you look things up before always making a total ass of yourself,
Archie?



Archimedes Plutonium wrote in message
...
Wondering if red clover is as cold hardy and grow whereever white clover
grows.
I saw a picture of an Oregon field of red clover. But is red clover as
cold hardy
and drought resistant as white clover.

Archimedes Plutonium,
whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots
of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

From: "Cereoid-UR12-"

Archimedes Plutonium wrote

Wondering if red clover is as cold hardy and grow whereever white clover
grows.
I saw a picture of an Oregon field of red clover. But is red clover as
cold hardy
and drought resistant as white clover.

As usual, your brain is up Uranus, Archie!!!


At least it has the company of yours...


Red clover is native to North America, you idiot.


What does that have to do with the question?


White clover was introduced from Europe.


yawn


Why don't you look things up before always making a total ass of yourself,
Archie?

The question was about hardiness, not about origin. The answer is that they are
aproximately the same cold hardiness, though in my own experience, you see the
red at higher elevations, and in moister conditions.

Sean




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You didn't answer his question either, sYawn.

I suppose I need to spell it out for someone as slow as you.

You must not know that a species that is endemic to a particular region is
already adapted to that region and thus would already be cold hardy if that
region experiences cold temperatures. Thousands of years would have wiped
the species out if it couldn't survive the climate.

I hope to meet you some day so that I can explain things to you in person,
dumbass.


Sean Houtman wrote in message
...
From: "Cereoid-UR12-"

Archimedes Plutonium wrote

Wondering if red clover is as cold hardy and grow whereever white
clover
grows.
I saw a picture of an Oregon field of red clover. But is red clover as
cold hardy
and drought resistant as white clover.

As usual, your brain is up Uranus, Archie!!!


At least it has the company of yours...


Red clover is native to North America, you idiot.


What does that have to do with the question?


White clover was introduced from Europe.


yawn


Why don't you look things up before always making a total ass of
yourself,
Archie?

The question was about hardiness, not about origin. The answer is that
they are
aproximately the same cold hardiness, though in my own experience, you see
the
red at higher elevations, and in moister conditions.

Sean




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Cereoid-UR12- schreef
You must not know that a species that is endemic

+ + +
the word you are looking for is "native"
+ + +

to a particular region is already adapted to that region and thus would
already be cold hardy if that region experiences cold temperatures.
Thousands of years would have wiped the species out if it couldn't survive
the climate.

+ + +
you are confusing climate with heavy metal deposits
+ + +

I hope to meet you some day so that I can explain things to you in person.

+ + +
Hey, a sign of social behaviour! Might there be hope yet?
PvR

In article ,
Cereoid-UR12- wrote:
You didn't answer his question either, sYawn.

Making fun of other people's names is very childish. Do you hide behind
a pseudonym because you're afraid the adults on this list are as childish
as you are, and might make fun of your name?

I suppose I need to spell it out for someone as slow as you.

Gosh, what a putdown! Doesn't that make you feel like a big boy!

You must not know that a species that is endemic to a particular region is
already adapted to that region and thus would already be cold hardy if that
region experiences cold temperatures. Thousands of years would have wiped
the species out if it couldn't survive the climate.

Umm, I realize you almost never leave the house, but you can find out from
reading children's books that North America and Europe are large areas with
varied climates, and just because a species is endemic to North America
doesn't mean that it will thrive in Florida, Arizona, Baffin Island and
coastal British Columbia. Ditto a species endemic to Poland will likely
do a lot better in Wisconsin than will a species endemic to Sardinia or
Ireland.

Sorry to have to spell this sort of thing out for you, but if you are trying
to prove that you are smarter, more knowledgable and all round Better Than
Everybody Else, you are, alas, proving the opposite.

Now you can post one of your usual childish, often misogynistic comments
to put me in my place and convince yourself that you are better than I am,
while demonstrating to the rest of us what a waste of bandwidth almost all
of your posts are. If you'd use the basic civility most people learn by
the time they are ten years old you could be a valued contributor to these
newgroups instead of an irritant and a laughingstock.

Go back to playing with your herbs, Bever.

Are you supposed to be some sort of expert on rolling in the clover?

You really need to get off the computer and get back to seeking fulfillment
on your usual street corner.

I have never been impressed by your pompous drivel and never will be.


Beverly Erlebacher wrote in message
.. .
In article ,
Cereoid-UR12- wrote:
You didn't answer his question either, sYawn.

Making fun of other people's names is very childish. Do you hide behind
a pseudonym because you're afraid the adults on this list are as childish
as you are, and might make fun of your name?

I suppose I need to spell it out for someone as slow as you.

Gosh, what a putdown! Doesn't that make you feel like a big boy!

You must not know that a species that is endemic to a particular region
is
already adapted to that region and thus would already be cold hardy if
that
region experiences cold temperatures. Thousands of years would have wiped
the species out if it couldn't survive the climate.

Umm, I realize you almost never leave the house, but you can find out from
reading children's books that North America and Europe are large areas
with
varied climates, and just because a species is endemic to North America
doesn't mean that it will thrive in Florida, Arizona, Baffin Island and
coastal British Columbia. Ditto a species endemic to Poland will likely
do a lot better in Wisconsin than will a species endemic to Sardinia or
Ireland.

Sorry to have to spell this sort of thing out for you, but if you are
trying
to prove that you are smarter, more knowledgable and all round Better Than
Everybody Else, you are, alas, proving the opposite.

Now you can post one of your usual childish, often misogynistic comments
to put me in my place and convince yourself that you are better than I am,
while demonstrating to the rest of us what a waste of bandwidth almost all
of your posts are. If you'd use the basic civility most people learn by
the time they are ten years old you could be a valued contributor to these
newgroups instead of an irritant and a laughingstock.

This reply wasn't made to you, Rinkytink. So, why do you insist on horning
in on other people's conversations? Are you really that lonely out there in
Lapland? If we give you $20, will you go and find yourself a willing lap
dancer?

Sorry Charlie, I did mean endemic when I said it. Look it up in your Funk &
Wagnel's.

Heavy metal deposits have nothing at all to do with climatic changes and
cold hardiness.

I hope to meet you some day too so that I can explain things to you in
person.


P van Rijckevorsel wrote in message
...
Cereoid-UR12- schreef
You must not know that a species that is endemic

+ + +
the word you are looking for is "native"
+ + +

to a particular region is already adapted to that region and thus would
already be cold hardy if that region experiences cold temperatures.
Thousands of years would have wiped the species out if it couldn't survive
the climate.

+ + +
you are confusing climate with heavy metal deposits
+ + +

I hope to meet you some day so that I can explain things to you in
person.

+ + +
Hey, a sign of social behaviour! Might there be hope yet?
PvR

You are not satisfied with confirming your immaturity time and again, don't
you? You really need to outdo yourself in this respect. Just keep in mind
that every computer these days offers the possibility of a killfile.
PvR

On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
|Wondering if red clover is as cold hardy and grow whereever white clover
|grows.

I can't answer that one, but...

|I saw a picture of an Oregon field of red clover. But is red clover as
|cold hardy and drought resistant as white clover.

I am from Oregon, and I've seen clover that has green leaves and red
leaves, and white flowers and pink flowers. Is red clover the kind
with pink flowers? I think that the ones with red leaves often sport
white flowers. The most common clover I've ever come across, is the
kind with white flowers and green leaves. If it's not too much
trouble, could you give me some kind of URL so I can go take a
look at the thypes of clover you are referring to?

Can white clover cross with red clover?

On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, Cereoid-UR12- wrote:
|Red clover is native to North America, you idiot.
|
|White clover was introduced from Europe.

Hey, does 'white' clover cross with 'red' clover?

Matthew Montchalin schreef
If it's not too much
trouble, could you give me some kind of URL so I can go take a
look at the types of clover you are referring to?

(http://dlp.cs.berkeley.edu/cgi/img_q...ere-taxon=Trif
olium+pratense)
http://dlp.cs.berkeley.edu/cgi/img_q...ere-taxon=Trif
olium+repens

You sure are a troll working overtime, Rinkytink.

Do you expect to get paid time and a half?

Keep dreaming.


P van Rijckevorsel wrote in message
...
You are not satisfied with confirming your immaturity time and again,
don't
you? You really need to outdo yourself in this respect. Just keep in mind
that every computer these days offers the possibility of a killfile.
PvR

Red clover (Trifolium pratense) has red flowers by definition.

There are many species of clover (Trifolium) found in North America, both
native and introduced.

Red clover and white clover (Trifolium repens) cannot hybridize. They are
not closely related in the genus

The species Trifolium hybridum, despite its name, is not of hybrid origin.


Matthew Montchalin wrote in message
...
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
|Wondering if red clover is as cold hardy and grow whereever white clover
|grows.

I can't answer that one, but...

|I saw a picture of an Oregon field of red clover. But is red clover as
|cold hardy and drought resistant as white clover.

I am from Oregon, and I've seen clover that has green leaves and red
leaves, and white flowers and pink flowers. Is red clover the kind
with pink flowers? I think that the ones with red leaves often sport
white flowers. The most common clover I've ever come across, is the
kind with white flowers and green leaves. If it's not too much
trouble, could you give me some kind of URL so I can go take a
look at the thypes of clover you are referring to?

Can white clover cross with red clover?

Matthew Montchalin wrote:

On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
|Wondering if red clover is as cold hardy and grow whereever white clover
|grows.

I can't answer that one, but...

|I saw a picture of an Oregon field of red clover. But is red clover as
|cold hardy and drought resistant as white clover.

I am from Oregon, and I've seen clover that has green leaves and red
leaves, and white flowers and pink flowers. Is red clover the kind
with pink flowers? I think that the ones with red leaves often sport
white flowers. The most common clover I've ever come across, is the
kind with white flowers and green leaves. If it's not too much
trouble, could you give me some kind of URL so I can go take a
look at the thypes of clover you are referring to?

Can white clover cross with red clover?

I just sowed some Dutch white clover seed yesterday and anxious
to see how it will do. It was a recent land lot I had bought and
had a field of mostly thistles and some alfalfa. So if alfalfa thrives there

then I suspect clover will thrive. I think the world has it all backwards
where they try to have a lawn of grass and the clover is bad. They should
have a lawn of clover and tolerate the occasional grass. And instead of
killing all the broadleafs
to get at dandeloins, they should kill all grasses to get at crabgrass and
quack
grass.

I no longer am inclined for posting pictures, Matthew. I have mostly Dutch
white clover and trefoil in my lawns. I do have some clover that is all
purple in
color-- stems and leaves purplish or violet color but the occupant used to
be
a professor horticulture from USD and would explain.

I am researching how to maximize clover and trefoil in my lawns via my
mowing behaviour. When to mow, how to mow in order to increase the
clover and trefoil population.

Archimedes Plutonium,
whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots
of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies