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"Reel McKoi" wrote:

"Nick Cramer" wrote in message
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By twisting two 45's, you can attain any angle from 0° to 90°.
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By twisting them you can change the angle?

Yes, but but the two sides will be out of alignment. Not a huge problem.
I think 45 will work fine. More of a tent, anyway.

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~ jan wrote:

On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:08:09 CST, Kurt wrote:

here's my handy-dandy solution for you:

http://tinyurl.com/282clw

That is absolutely a great solution! Do they actually make tent toppers
for pvc though that would connect the top 4 pieces? ~ jan
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Ponds: www.jjspond.us

I doubt it. You'd probably just have one over the other

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Nick Cramer wrote:

"Reel McKoi" wrote:
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By twisting two 45's, you can attain any angle from 0° to 90°.

By twisting them you can change the angle?

Buy 2 of them (F-M and F-F, 1/2" or 3/4") and put them together (NO glue!).
Rotate one relative to the other. Observe the angle between the two ends.

There you go!

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Ditto that problem here, JB. A GBH took a nice roughly 16" Kohaku from us yesterday, and although I caught him in the act as he was about to swallow it, he was able to quickly fly off with the Koi still hanging halfway out of its beak. I saw him finish it off in the tops of a large pine tree two lots over.

I was also hoping the size of our other Koi would be a deterrent, but from reading this and other forums, unfortunately that seems overly optimistic. Even if they can't eat them given a larger size, it seems much damage, some fatally so, is already done with the spearing.

Our pond design doesn't lend itself to netting or wires, and although we feed only bottom food, have never hand fed so the Koi aren't accustomed to coming up very close to us on the pond edges, and have 5 foot depths in many places with reefs and ledges under which they can hide, unfortunately they do enjoy surface swimming and quite frankly, I'm just hoping at least some of them are able to learn to stay deep...

On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 16:46:35 CST, falcon
wrote:

Ditto that problem here, JB. A GBH took a nice roughly 16" Kohaku from
us yesterday, and although I caught him in the act as he was about to
swallow it, he was able to quickly fly off with the Koi still hanging
halfway out of its beak. I saw him finish it off in the tops of a
large pine tree two lots over.

I was also hoping the size of our other Koi would be a deterrent, but
from reading this and other forums, unfortunately that seems overly
optimistic. Even if they can't eat them given a larger size, it seems
much damage, some fatally so, is already done with the spearing.

Our pond design doesn't lend itself to netting or wires, and although
we feed only bottom food, have never hand fed so the Koi aren't
accustomed to coming up very close to us on the pond edges, and have 5
foot depths in many places with reefs and ledges under which they can
hide, unfortunately they do enjoy surface swimming and quite frankly,
I'm just hoping at least some of them are able to learn to stay deep...

Do you have any of pictures of your pond on-line by chance? ~ jan
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Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

No, but I visited your website and found your email address, so I'll send you a PM. Nice site, BTW, especially the hawk vs the heron picture. We have barred owls and red-shouldered hawks which also frequent our pond, so maybe they'll help out with heron control. I have actually discouraged the barred owls when I've seen them in the past, as I saw one catching and eating one of our 6" Yamabuk Ogons, but I'll take the owl over the heron any day.

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In article ,
"Reel McKoi" wrote:

"Nick Cramer" wrote in message
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By twisting two 45's, you can attain any angle from 0° to 90°.
=====================
By twisting them you can change the angle?

Yes, but but the two sides will be out of alignment. Not a huge problem.
I think 45 will work fine. More of a tent, anyway.
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What is the 4 way piece on the top called that holds the 4 legs together?
Sorry, I know zero about PVC and plumbing.
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RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
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"Nick Cramer" wrote in message
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"Reel McKoi" wrote:
"Nick Cramer" wrote in message
By twisting two 45's, you can attain any angle from 0° to 90°.

By twisting them you can change the angle?

Buy 2 of them (F-M and F-F, 1/2" or 3/4") and put them together (NO
glue!).
Rotate one relative to the other. Observe the angle between the two ends.
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An F-M and an F-F? I'm afraid I know nothing about plumbing and PVC pipe.
I think it will cost a lot more than $15 to cover these tanks. It would
take 12 12' pieces (tanks are 8' wide), 12 4' pieces (tanks are 24" high)
and 12 joint things that angle the right way - including 3 top things that
are four-way to keep it together like a Gazebo. What angle are those
four-way top pieces and what are they called? What do I ask for?
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RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
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~ jan wrote:

On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:08:09 CST, Kurt wrote:

here's my handy-dandy solution for you:

http://tinyurl.com/282clw

That is absolutely a great solution! Do they actually make tent toppers
for pvc though that would connect the top 4 pieces? ~ jan
------------
Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

I doubt it. You'd probably just have one over the other
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What would hold each side up? I thought they were joined at the top?!?!?!
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RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
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Reel McKoi wrote:

An F-M and an F-F? What do I ask for?

Not to make this list X-rated, but Female-Male and Female-Female. When
I taught Electronics Lab 101, I used to embarrass the Freshman girls by
pointing out why the plug is called Male and the receptacle called Female.

Chip

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Reel McKoi wrote:

An F-M and an F-F? What do I ask for?

Not to make this list X-rated, but Female-Male and Female-Female. When I
taught Electronics Lab 101, I used to embarrass the Freshman girls by
pointing out why the plug is called Male and the receptacle called Female.
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Oh! I gotcha. :-)
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RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
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On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 21:41:29 CST, falcon
wrote:

No, but I visited your website and found your email address, so I'll
send you a PM.

Got them... and wow, one would hate to net or doing anything to distract
from that loveliness. Ever try a motion sprinkler? So far so good here
using them.

Nice site,

Thanks. :-)

BTW, especially the hawk vs the heron
picture. We have barred owls and red-shouldered hawks which also
frequent our pond, so maybe they'll help out with heron control. I
have actually discouraged the barred owls when I've seen them in the
past, as I saw one catching and eating one of our 6" Yamabuk Ogons, but
I'll take the owl over the heron any day.

We had a Great Horned owl up in the neighbors tree sleeping a couple weeks
ago. I didn't remember your owl story... course the ponds are currently
screened so well protected right now. Just have to remember those are
around. ~ jan
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Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us

Thanks for the suggestion on the motion sprinkler, Jan. I read about them previously but couldn't find many user reviews; but after reading your advice and after further research, it really sounds like my only option. I just ordered one, but I might end up needing a couple more to cover all angles.

And I probably should've ordered it next day air, as often as the GBH is visiting now...

On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 17:20:32 CST, "Reel McKoi"
wrote:

What is the 4 way piece on the top called that holds the 4 legs together?
Sorry, I know zero about PVC and plumbing.

This place in Washington calls it a cross.
http://tinyurl.com/yecm6y
I would have called it a 4 way, but there is more than one of those.
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Hal Middle Georgia, Zone 8
http://tinyurl.com/2fxzcb

On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 13:01:48 CST, Hal wrote:

This place in Washington calls it a cross.
http://tinyurl.com/yecm6y
I would have called it a 4 way, but there is more than one of those.

Wow! Nice place to know about. Tx, ~ jan
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Zone 7a, SE Washington State
Ponds: www.jjspond.us