My father had an interesting idea this weekend, when I told him about my
orange water. We recently installed one of those collapsible pools that
comes with a small cartridge style filter/pump. He suggested, I pump the
pond through that filter for a day or so to suck the clay out. Even if I
have replace the filter cartridge a few times, it may be worth it to get the
clay out. We have not added chemicals to the pool yet, so I know the filter
is "clean".

Any thoughts?

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BenignVanilla wrote:
My father had an interesting idea this weekend, when I told him about my
orange water. We recently installed one of those collapsible pools that
comes with a small cartridge style filter/pump. He suggested, I pump the
pond through that filter for a day or so to suck the clay out. Even if I
have replace the filter cartridge a few times, it may be worth it to get the
clay out. We have not added chemicals to the pool yet, so I know the filter
is "clean".

Any thoughts?

--
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Pond Site: www.darofamily.com/jeff/links/mypond
Remove MYFRONTALLOBE to email me.
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Might work. I know when I first started Roark suggested
using a micron filter - I had to stop when I needed to
replace the filter to often.

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Bonnie
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"BenignVanilla" m
wrote:

My father had an interesting idea this weekend, when I told him about my
orange water. We recently installed one of those collapsible pools that
comes with a small cartridge style filter/pump. He suggested, I pump the
pond through that filter for a day or so to suck the clay out. Even if I
have replace the filter cartridge a few times, it may be worth it to get the
clay out. We have not added chemicals to the pool yet, so I know the filter
is "clean".

Any thoughts?

You will be changing the filter or cleaning it every hour if you are
lucky, more like every half hour.

jay
Thu, May 15, 2003



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"BenignVanilla" m
wrote:

Any thoughts?

Have you stopped the clay from entering? in a previous post, you
indicated the clay is coming from your ground landscaping, and is
continuing.

Is any settling? You should have a bit collecting on the bottom of the
pond at this point.

"John Hines" wrote in message
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"BenignVanilla" m
wrote:

Any thoughts?

Have you stopped the clay from entering? in a previous post, you
indicated the clay is coming from your ground landscaping, and is
continuing.

Is any settling? You should have a bit collecting on the bottom of the
pond at this point.

Maybe out of fear or something like that but the water has been clearer the
past few days. *laugh* I have not yet stopped the leaching from the
surrounding area, which is why I am hesitant to use anything like calcite or
alum, just yet. I plan to finish the landscaping/grading this weekend, so
the leaching stops.

I figure once that is done, maybe I'll run the pool filter idea to see if it
has any impact. I think I have resigned myself to just let it go naturally,
after that. Much of it is slowly ending up in the VF where I can scoop it
out, so it may just make sense to let it go naturally.

Of course, me falling in like I did yesterday, does not help with the
settlage.

BV.

"BenignVanilla" m schreef
in bericht news:ba2q46$oh4m6$2@ID- Of course, me falling in like I did
yesterday, does not help with the
settlage.

Erm... LOL !

Of course only *cough* stupid people do something like that *cough* !

But it's 5 days ago, and it was only my head in the water LOL, so I'm pretty
smart again ;-)

Fish were looking like "oooh, the boss, he finds something new everyday
doesn't he ?"

"Theo van Daele" wrote in message
...
"BenignVanilla" m schreef
in bericht news:ba2q46$oh4m6$2@ID- Of course, me falling in like I did
yesterday, does not help with the
settlage.

Erm... LOL !

Of course only *cough* stupid people do something like that *cough* !

But it's 5 days ago, and it was only my head in the water LOL, so I'm
pretty
smart again ;-)

Fish were looking like "oooh, the boss, he finds something new everyday
doesn't he ?"

I was trying to set some rocks...and I miscalculated the sliminess of the
clay/algae mixture on the liner.

BV.

"BenignVanilla" m
wrote:

I figure once that is done, maybe I'll run the pool filter idea to see if it
has any impact. I think I have resigned myself to just let it go naturally,
after that. Much of it is slowly ending up in the VF where I can scoop it
out, so it may just make sense to let it go naturally.

If it is settling, then you won't need to do anything else, once it
stops coming in. And yes, being stirred up.

And your VF will get more effective as the plant roots grow.

"John Hines" wrote in message
...
"BenignVanilla" m
wrote:

I figure once that is done, maybe I'll run the pool filter idea to see if
it
has any impact. I think I have resigned myself to just let it go
naturally,
after that. Much of it is slowly ending up in the VF where I can scoop it
out, so it may just make sense to let it go naturally.

If it is settling, then you won't need to do anything else, once it
stops coming in. And yes, being stirred up.

And your VF will get more effective as the plant roots grow.

I am afraid if I just leave it on the bottom, the fishes will stir it up
constantly. I'll just have to wait and see.

BV.

Add gypsum to your pond and get your GH up to 10 degrees and the clay
will drop out (assuming new stuff isn't entering)

Worked for me! My problem now is high levels of dissolved organics,
but the plants should take care of that when they all get kickin'

"BenignVanilla" m
wrote:

"John Hines" wrote in message
.. .
"BenignVanilla" m
wrote:

I figure once that is done, maybe I'll run the pool filter idea to see if
it
has any impact. I think I have resigned myself to just let it go
naturally,
after that. Much of it is slowly ending up in the VF where I can scoop it
out, so it may just make sense to let it go naturally.

If it is settling, then you won't need to do anything else, once it
stops coming in. And yes, being stirred up.

And your VF will get more effective as the plant roots grow.

I am afraid if I just leave it on the bottom, the fishes will stir it up
constantly. I'll just have to wait and see.

Anything you add, is simply going to make it settle faster, or make more
things settle.

You shouldn't have that much settling on the bottom, with a drain, so as
you say, scoop it out of the VF.

But yes, patience is what you need at this point.

BV,

the koi will stir it up, and that is good. Each time it settles, it will
settle closer to the bottom drain and eventually find its way to the VF,
where the plant roots will help filter it out, make it settle where it is
easier to remove.
--
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"BenignVanilla" m wrote in
message ...
"John Hines" wrote in message
...
"BenignVanilla" m
wrote:

I figure once that is done, maybe I'll run the pool filter idea to see
if
it
has any impact. I think I have resigned myself to just let it go
naturally,
after that. Much of it is slowly ending up in the VF where I can scoop
it
out, so it may just make sense to let it go naturally.

If it is settling, then you won't need to do anything else, once it
stops coming in. And yes, being stirred up.

And your VF will get more effective as the plant roots grow.

I am afraid if I just leave it on the bottom, the fishes will stir it up
constantly. I'll just have to wait and see.

BV.

"BenignVanilla" m wrote in
message ...
My father had an interesting idea this weekend, when I told him about my
orange water. We recently installed one of those collapsible pools that
comes with a small cartridge style filter/pump. He suggested, I pump the
pond through that filter for a day or so to suck the clay out. Even if I
have replace the filter cartridge a few times, it may be worth it to get
the
clay out. We have not added chemicals to the pool yet, so I know the
filter
is "clean".


See if you can get your hands on a 55 gal drum, slowly pump the water from
the bottom of the pond, and run the hose into the bottom of the drum. Then
at the top of the drum have a siphon hose leading back to the pond. This way
you can make a settling chamber.

Stack milk crates inside of the drum, to slow the rate at which the water in
the drum is moving, that will help things settle. Also put a flow restrictor
on the pump, like a section of 3/4 inch pipe.

Sameer
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when doing soil tests in the lab, my students have to let the clay fraction settle
overnight. the clay needs to be precipitated to get it out of pond water. Ingrid

"RichToyBox" wrote in message
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BV,

the koi will stir it up, and that is good. Each time it settles, it will
settle closer to the bottom drain and eventually find its way to the VF,
where the plant roots will help filter it out, make it settle where it is
easier to remove.

Rich, you have had piles of good suggestions on this thread, and I know you
are right. I am just impatient. I want to see the pond bottom. *laugh* 75%
of me says wait it out. 25% still wants to go buy some calcite.

BV.