The last week we had 3 days of what felt like HOT weather to me. Can you
or should you feed during periods like that?

i would think it would have to do with the temperature of the water. do you
have a thermometer in your water?

mad

--
War doesn't determine who is right. War determines who is left.

From: "D Kat"
Organization: Stony Brook University
Newsgroups: rec.ponds
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:05:37 -0500
Subject: Do you feed fish during Indian Summer?

The last week we had 3 days of what felt like HOT weather to me. Can you
or should you feed during periods like that?





-----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =-----
http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World!
-----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =-----

"D Kat" wrote in message
...
The last week we had 3 days of what felt like HOT weather to me. Can you
or should you feed during periods like that?

I am sure this will draw some fire but, I normally only feed my fish only
occasionally. It's more of a treat then a food source. As for temperature, I
feed them when they are active. No activity. No food. Activity. They get
food.

BV.

"D Kat" wrote in message
...
The last week we had 3 days of what felt like HOT weather to me. Can you
or should you feed during periods like that?
================================
I feed our koi and goldfish once a day until the water hits about 50 F.
That's also the temperature we turn off the pumps and remove the filters. I
believe they should go into the winter as plump as possible, like the fish
in nature. Only small water pumps keep the surface agitated to keep ice
from smothering the ponds. Last year we didn't lose one fish over the
winter.
--
Carol.....
Remember, there are more deaths from automobiles and
legally prescribed and properly used drugs every year than from guns,
motorcycles or untrained and self taught motorcyclists. We should ban
automobiles and prescribed drugs and keep our guns and motorcycles IMHO.
~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~

"BenignVanilla" wrote in message
news:SzGdnUMZm8X5KjSiU-

I am sure this will draw some fire but, I normally only feed my fish only
occasionally. It's more of a treat then a food source. As for temperature,
I
feed them when they are active. No activity. No food. Activity. They get
food.
====================
In a huge pond with few fish they probably don't need extra food. Most of
us don't have such conditions though.
--
Carol.....
Remember, there are more deaths from automobiles and
legally prescribed and properly used drugs every year than from guns,
motorcycles or untrained and self taught motorcyclists. We should ban
automobiles and prescribed drugs and keep our guns and motorcycles IMHO.
~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~ ~*~

normally I didnt once the temp dropped to 55oF, but since the heater went in the temp
still hasnt dropped below 55. this is really working. I pulled all teh plants
yesterday. sigh. Ingrid

"D Kat" wrote:

The last week we had 3 days of what felt like HOT weather to me. Can you
or should you feed during periods like that?




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

OK, now you have me torn between wanting to keep the fish active (putting in
a heater) and wanting one less think to worry about what with all the work
of fall cleanup..... DK

wrote in message
...
normally I didnt once the temp dropped to 55oF, but since the heater went
in the temp
still hasnt dropped below 55. this is really working. I pulled all teh
plants
yesterday. sigh. Ingrid

"D Kat" wrote:

The last week we had 3 days of what felt like HOT weather to me. Can
you
or should you feed during periods like that?




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

Try and match your pond as close as possible to what the fish would have in
the wild, and the environment they would live in. If that means heating then
heat If they are active give a small amount of food.
Here in the UK I don't normally see my fish at this time of year. This year
it is quite mild and the fish are still taking small amounts of food on warm
sunny days. In my 20 years of fish keeping,both pond and tropical fresh
water. I have seen most fish deaths caused by people continually meddling
with the habitat, water quality and overfeeding, etc, than any other causes.
Mike
UK


"D Kat" wrote in message
et...
OK, now you have me torn between wanting to keep the fish active (putting
in
a heater) and wanting one less think to worry about what with all the work
of fall cleanup..... DK

wrote in message
...
normally I didnt once the temp dropped to 55oF, but since the heater
went
in the temp
still hasnt dropped below 55. this is really working. I pulled all teh
plants
yesterday. sigh. Ingrid

"D Kat" wrote:

The last week we had 3 days of what felt like HOT weather to me. Can
you
or should you feed during periods like that?




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.




---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.537 / Virus Database: 332 - Release Date: 06/11/2003

in the "wild" most of our fish would have been predated due to their stand out
colors. in the wild they dont get supplemental feeding, in the wild the vast
majority of GF die. Ingrid

"Mouse" wrote:
Try and match your pond as close as possible to what the fish would have in
the wild, and the environment they would live in.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

Ingrid,

FWIW, I agree.

We should never look at our ponds as something "close to nature".

Unless we have a pond like Sam has (meaning multiple thousands of gallons
per fish), our ponds are not and will never be a "nature" thing.

We can all avoid desillusion taking that little fact into account :-)

Theo

schreef in bericht
...
in the "wild" most of our fish would have been predated due to their stand
out
colors. in the wild they dont get supplemental feeding, in the wild the
vast
majority of GF die. Ingrid

"Mouse" wrote:
Try and match your pond as close as possible to what the fish would have
in
the wild, and the environment they would live in.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

I would beg to differ from your opinion. Whilst your statement may be true
of the people who keep koi, which are looked on here as exotic fish, many of
us keep other species. My own 1000 gallon pond, has the same species of
fish, plants, other specimens of wildlife, and water conditions as the vast
lake not far from where I live. Here in the UK that is certainly looked on
as "close to nature"
Mouse
UK

"Theo van Daele" wrote in message
...
Ingrid,

FWIW, I agree.

We should never look at our ponds as something "close to nature".

Unless we have a pond like Sam has (meaning multiple thousands of gallons
per fish), our ponds are not and will never be a "nature" thing.

We can all avoid desillusion taking that little fact into account :-)

Theo

schreef in bericht
...
in the "wild" most of our fish would have been predated due to their
stand
out
colors. in the wild they dont get supplemental feeding, in the wild the
vast
majority of GF die. Ingrid

"Mouse" wrote:
Try and match your pond as close as possible to what the fish would
have
in
the wild, and the environment they would live in.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.




---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.537 / Virus Database: 332 - Release Date: 06/11/2003

Perhaps we need to take a poll, but I would guess you are in the minority
within this group. Thus said, your advice is still valid with a clarifier
of what kind of pond you keep.

From a Koi Vet's perspective they say the majority of fish deaths (koi &
goldfish) are from water quality and the poor upkeep thereof. From a koi
dealers perspective, they say the average life span of a koi is 2 weeks....
I deduct from poor water quality. ~ jan )

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:11:15 -0000, "Mouse" wrote:

I would beg to differ from your opinion. Whilst your statement may be true
of the people who keep koi, which are looked on here as exotic fish, many of
us keep other species. My own 1000 gallon pond, has the same species of
fish, plants, other specimens of wildlife, and water conditions as the vast
lake not far from where I live. Here in the UK that is certainly looked on
as "close to nature"
Mouse
UK

"Theo van Daele" wrote in message
...
Ingrid,

FWIW, I agree.

We should never look at our ponds as something "close to nature".

Unless we have a pond like Sam has (meaning multiple thousands of gallons
per fish), our ponds are not and will never be a "nature" thing.

We can all avoid desillusion taking that little fact into account :-)

Theo

schreef in bericht
...
in the "wild" most of our fish would have been predated due to their
stand
out
colors. in the wild they dont get supplemental feeding, in the wild the
vast
majority of GF die. Ingrid

"Mouse" wrote:
Try and match your pond as close as possible to what the fish would
have
in
the wild, and the environment they would live in.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.




---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.537 / Virus Database: 332 - Release Date: 06/11/2003


See my ponds thru the seasons and/or my filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Defrosted~
Tri-Cities, WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

I agree with you totally. I am obviously in a minority in this group as I
don't keep Koi. However overfeeding = poor water quality= fish deaths
whatever the species. The other problem I seem to have is that my use of
English differs from the American English :-)
Mouse

"~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote in message
...
Perhaps we need to take a poll, but I would guess you are in the minority
within this group. Thus said, your advice is still valid with a clarifier
of what kind of pond you keep.

From a Koi Vet's perspective they say the majority of fish deaths (koi &
goldfish) are from water quality and the poor upkeep thereof. From a koi
dealers perspective, they say the average life span of a koi is 2
weeks....
I deduct from poor water quality. ~ jan )

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:11:15 -0000, "Mouse"
wrote:

I would beg to differ from your opinion. Whilst your statement may be
true
of the people who keep koi, which are looked on here as exotic fish, many
of
us keep other species. My own 1000 gallon pond, has the same species of
fish, plants, other specimens of wildlife, and water conditions as the
vast
lake not far from where I live. Here in the UK that is certainly looked
on
as "close to nature"
Mouse
UK

"Theo van Daele" wrote in message
...
Ingrid,

FWIW, I agree.

We should never look at our ponds as something "close to nature".

Unless we have a pond like Sam has (meaning multiple thousands of
gallons
per fish), our ponds are not and will never be a "nature" thing.

We can all avoid desillusion taking that little fact into account :-)

Theo

schreef in bericht
...
in the "wild" most of our fish would have been predated due to their
stand
out
colors. in the wild they dont get supplemental feeding, in the wild
the
vast
majority of GF die. Ingrid

"Mouse" wrote:
Try and match your pond as close as possible to what the fish would
have
in
the wild, and the environment they would live in.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.




---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.537 / Virus Database: 332 - Release Date: 06/11/2003


See my ponds thru the seasons and/or my filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Defrosted~
Tri-Cities, WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website


---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.537 / Virus Database: 332 - Release Date: 06/11/2003

The other problem I seem to have is that my use of
English differs from the American English :-)

Erm... can you explain this to me, a poor Belgian, just back yesterday from
a track day at Brands Hatch, who's native language is neither UK or US
English ?

This is a very global world these days, with people trying to give the best
info they can... how many natural ponds do you know (Midlands, North,
Southern, Scouse, where-ever) you know that hold say only 50.000 gallons (US
or UK) ? ;-)

Theo

Where I live in Yorkshire, almost all villages have a pond that has been
there for many hundreds of years, some of these are quite small, and even
dry up in the summer season. Many other small ponds / pools were formed by
the Romans, and later Monks specifically for keeping fish for food. These
would all be referred to as natural ponds, because of the habitat and
wildlife that they attract and support. Size and volume of water would not
enter into the equation
Mouse

"Theo van Daele" wrote in message
...
The other problem I seem to have is that my use of
English differs from the American English :-)

Erm... can you explain this to me, a poor Belgian, just back yesterday
from
a track day at Brands Hatch, who's native language is neither UK or US
English ?

This is a very global world these days, with people trying to give the
best
info they can... how many natural ponds do you know (Midlands, North,
Southern, Scouse, where-ever) you know that hold say only 50.000 gallons
(US
or UK) ? ;-)

Theo





---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.537 / Virus Database: 332 - Release Date: 06/11/2003