On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 22:38:10 -0600, "~ Windsong ~"
wrote:

Ok guys. I have a question about water lilies. I have about 15 of them and
the problem is those pond pots we use to plant them in. You know the ones I
mean. They're the large size black plastic stiff mesh like ones. I line
them with a poly/cotton cloth to help keep the soil from oozing out. Then I
cover the soil with gravel. The soil still oozes out as the lily sinks
lower and lower in the pot. What kind of pots are you people using for your
water lilies? What kind of soil? Is anyone using large regular plastic or
clay/crock pots?

Lily pots have always been a bit of a problem for me and the best
choice I found was 3 gallon paint buckets, but they fill up in a
season.

Last year I tried one lily in part of a 30 gallon plastic barrel and
it bloomed really well. I use garden soil and cover it with stones.
I do wonder how I'm going to get it out of the pond when I have to
re-pot, probably next year.

Regards,

Hal

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 22:38:10 -0600, "~ Windsong ~"
wrote:

Ok guys. I have a question about water lilies. I have about 15 of them and
the problem is those pond pots we use to plant them in. You know the ones I
mean. They're the large size black plastic stiff mesh like ones. I line
them with a poly/cotton cloth to help keep the soil from oozing out. Then I
cover the soil with gravel. The soil still oozes out as the lily sinks
lower and lower in the pot. What kind of pots are you people using for your
water lilies? What kind of soil? Is anyone using large regular plastic or
clay/crock pots?

Lily pots have always been a bit of a problem for me and the best
choice I found was 3 gallon paint buckets, but they fill up in a
season.

Last year I tried one lily in part of a 30 gallon plastic barrel and
it bloomed really well. I use garden soil and cover it with stones.
I do wonder how I'm going to get it out of the pond when I have to
re-pot, probably next year.

Regards,

Hal

"~ Windsong ~" wrote in message ...
Ok guys. I have a question about water lilies. I have about 15 of them and
the problem is those pond pots we use to plant them in.

I gave up on trying to keep my water lily contained in a pot. For the
past several years, it has insisted on hopping out of the pot, so I
just let it do what it wants. There is still some of it in the
original pot that it came in, but most of it has hopped over and has
rooted in the bottom of the pond. The roots don't seem to care that
they don't have any soil surrounding them. I use a 6' Rubbermaid
stock tank for a pond liner, with large river rock on the bottom. I
imagine that there is a network of water lily roots under the rocks.
I shove a few fertilizer tabs under the rocks where the lilies have
grown up to help them bloom. I have over 100 blooms every season.
Anyway, I've had this plant for about 10 years now, and when it starts
to get out of control, I just hack part of it off and give it to
friends who have ponds. People sometimes shudder when they hear about
how roughly I treat my lilies, but these plants are tough as hell, so
I don't worry about them. They are just beautiful year after year
with almost no special care.
Gary

"~ Windsong ~" wrote in message ...
Ok guys. I have a question about water lilies. I have about 15 of them and
the problem is those pond pots we use to plant them in.

I gave up on trying to keep my water lily contained in a pot. For the
past several years, it has insisted on hopping out of the pot, so I
just let it do what it wants. There is still some of it in the
original pot that it came in, but most of it has hopped over and has
rooted in the bottom of the pond. The roots don't seem to care that
they don't have any soil surrounding them. I use a 6' Rubbermaid
stock tank for a pond liner, with large river rock on the bottom. I
imagine that there is a network of water lily roots under the rocks.
I shove a few fertilizer tabs under the rocks where the lilies have
grown up to help them bloom. I have over 100 blooms every season.
Anyway, I've had this plant for about 10 years now, and when it starts
to get out of control, I just hack part of it off and give it to
friends who have ponds. People sometimes shudder when they hear about
how roughly I treat my lilies, but these plants are tough as hell, so
I don't worry about them. They are just beautiful year after year
with almost no special care.
Gary

"~ Windsong ~" wrote in message ...
Ok guys. I have a question about water lilies. I have about 15 of them and
the problem is those pond pots we use to plant them in.

I gave up on trying to keep my water lily contained in a pot. For the
past several years, it has insisted on hopping out of the pot, so I
just let it do what it wants. There is still some of it in the
original pot that it came in, but most of it has hopped over and has
rooted in the bottom of the pond. The roots don't seem to care that
they don't have any soil surrounding them. I use a 6' Rubbermaid
stock tank for a pond liner, with large river rock on the bottom. I
imagine that there is a network of water lily roots under the rocks.
I shove a few fertilizer tabs under the rocks where the lilies have
grown up to help them bloom. I have over 100 blooms every season.
Anyway, I've had this plant for about 10 years now, and when it starts
to get out of control, I just hack part of it off and give it to
friends who have ponds. People sometimes shudder when they hear about
how roughly I treat my lilies, but these plants are tough as hell, so
I don't worry about them. They are just beautiful year after year
with almost no special care.
Gary

"Gale Pearce" wrote in message
...
Hi Carol - I tried the mesh like pots and had the same problem - I
switched
to the semi stiff solid plastic ones - work fine, - I also quit using pea
gravel and went to larger "lake stone" - smooth, 1" - 2" dia - now fish
don't pick up stones and spit them all over pond floor :~
=====================
Thanks Gale,
I am using the semi-STIFF square plastic pots. They're made for pond
plants. Even with a fine cloth the clay soil oozes out the sides and
bottom. The butterfly koi in this pond don't bother the gravel much.
--
Carol...
My website:
http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
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"Gale Pearce" wrote in message
...
Hi Carol - I tried the mesh like pots and had the same problem - I
switched
to the semi stiff solid plastic ones - work fine, - I also quit using pea
gravel and went to larger "lake stone" - smooth, 1" - 2" dia - now fish
don't pick up stones and spit them all over pond floor :~
=====================
Thanks Gale,
I am using the semi-STIFF square plastic pots. They're made for pond
plants. Even with a fine cloth the clay soil oozes out the sides and
bottom. The butterfly koi in this pond don't bother the gravel much.
--
Carol...
My website:
http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
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"Gale Pearce" wrote in message
...
Hi Carol - I tried the mesh like pots and had the same problem - I
switched
to the semi stiff solid plastic ones - work fine, - I also quit using pea
gravel and went to larger "lake stone" - smooth, 1" - 2" dia - now fish
don't pick up stones and spit them all over pond floor :~
=====================
Thanks Gale,
I am using the semi-STIFF square plastic pots. They're made for pond
plants. Even with a fine cloth the clay soil oozes out the sides and
bottom. The butterfly koi in this pond don't bother the gravel much.
--
Carol...
My website:
http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
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"Steve J. Noll" wrote in message
...
suggestions

I use 18-inch diameter 7-inch deep plastic pots from Home Depot.
No holes.

## Ok, this is what I was asking - do the hardy lilies thrive in a solid pot
or perhaps one with only one bottom hole. I wasn't sure if their roots
needed more water circulation than a solid wall pot allowed. I can look for
these pots at my Home Depot here in TN. I already have a few I used as
planters for the porch last summer. :-)

I've heard that hardy lilies want large diameter shallow
pots. Last season I used the Schultz Aquatic soil - it's like a
ceramic and is perfectly clean. I'm getting ready to re-pot now and
will be using a mix of that, composted steer manure, and a little 'Koi
Clay'.

## What is koi clay? Our native clay grows beautiful water lilies. I add
some rose fertilizer sticks and Ironite to the potting soil (clean clay from
our own land). I try and do them every year because they grow so rapidly.
I hope to take new pics for my website this coming summer, now that I have a
digital camera and better photo processing software.

Clay soil seems to be popular, but I don't have access to
any. I tried aKwatik fertilizers last year but found they clogged too
easily. Making my own this year.

## What clogged too easily? Your filter????

Steve J. Noll | Ventura California
| Glass Block Pond http://www.kissingfrogs.tv

--
Carol...
My website:
http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
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"Steve J. Noll" wrote in message
...
suggestions

I use 18-inch diameter 7-inch deep plastic pots from Home Depot.
No holes.

## Ok, this is what I was asking - do the hardy lilies thrive in a solid pot
or perhaps one with only one bottom hole. I wasn't sure if their roots
needed more water circulation than a solid wall pot allowed. I can look for
these pots at my Home Depot here in TN. I already have a few I used as
planters for the porch last summer. :-)

I've heard that hardy lilies want large diameter shallow
pots. Last season I used the Schultz Aquatic soil - it's like a
ceramic and is perfectly clean. I'm getting ready to re-pot now and
will be using a mix of that, composted steer manure, and a little 'Koi
Clay'.

## What is koi clay? Our native clay grows beautiful water lilies. I add
some rose fertilizer sticks and Ironite to the potting soil (clean clay from
our own land). I try and do them every year because they grow so rapidly.
I hope to take new pics for my website this coming summer, now that I have a
digital camera and better photo processing software.

Clay soil seems to be popular, but I don't have access to
any. I tried aKwatik fertilizers last year but found they clogged too
easily. Making my own this year.

## What clogged too easily? Your filter????

Steve J. Noll | Ventura California
| Glass Block Pond http://www.kissingfrogs.tv

--
Carol...
My website:
http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
[Insert humorous, clever or profound quote here]
~~~~~~~~~{@ ~~~~~~~~~{@ ~~~~~~~~~{@

"Gale Pearce" wrote in message
...
Hi Carol - I tried the mesh like pots and had the same problem - I
switched
to the semi stiff solid plastic ones - work fine, - I also quit using pea
gravel and went to larger "lake stone" - smooth, 1" - 2" dia - now fish
don't pick up stones and spit them all over pond floor :~
=====================
Thanks Gale,
I am using the semi-STIFF square plastic pots. They're made for pond
plants. Even with a fine cloth the clay soil oozes out the sides and
bottom. The butterfly koi in this pond don't bother the gravel much.
--
Carol...
My website:
http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
[Insert humorous, clever or profound quote here]
~~~~~~~~~{@ ~~~~~~~~~{@ ~~~~~~~~~{@

"Steve J. Noll" wrote in message
...
suggestions

I use 18-inch diameter 7-inch deep plastic pots from Home Depot.
No holes.

## Ok, this is what I was asking - do the hardy lilies thrive in a solid pot
or perhaps one with only one bottom hole. I wasn't sure if their roots
needed more water circulation than a solid wall pot allowed. I can look for
these pots at my Home Depot here in TN. I already have a few I used as
planters for the porch last summer. :-)

I've heard that hardy lilies want large diameter shallow
pots. Last season I used the Schultz Aquatic soil - it's like a
ceramic and is perfectly clean. I'm getting ready to re-pot now and
will be using a mix of that, composted steer manure, and a little 'Koi
Clay'.

## What is koi clay? Our native clay grows beautiful water lilies. I add
some rose fertilizer sticks and Ironite to the potting soil (clean clay from
our own land). I try and do them every year because they grow so rapidly.
I hope to take new pics for my website this coming summer, now that I have a
digital camera and better photo processing software.

Clay soil seems to be popular, but I don't have access to
any. I tried aKwatik fertilizers last year but found they clogged too
easily. Making my own this year.

## What clogged too easily? Your filter????

Steve J. Noll | Ventura California
| Glass Block Pond http://www.kissingfrogs.tv

--
Carol...
My website:
http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
[Insert humorous, clever or profound quote here]
~~~~~~~~~{@ ~~~~~~~~~{@ ~~~~~~~~~{@

"Steve J. Noll" wrote in message
...
suggestions

I use 18-inch diameter 7-inch deep plastic pots from Home Depot.
No holes.

## Ok, this is what I was asking - do the hardy lilies thrive in a solid pot
or perhaps one with only one bottom hole. I wasn't sure if their roots
needed more water circulation than a solid wall pot allowed. I can look for
these pots at my Home Depot here in TN. I already have a few I used as
planters for the porch last summer. :-)

I've heard that hardy lilies want large diameter shallow
pots. Last season I used the Schultz Aquatic soil - it's like a
ceramic and is perfectly clean. I'm getting ready to re-pot now and
will be using a mix of that, composted steer manure, and a little 'Koi
Clay'.

## What is koi clay? Our native clay grows beautiful water lilies. I add
some rose fertilizer sticks and Ironite to the potting soil (clean clay from
our own land). I try and do them every year because they grow so rapidly.
I hope to take new pics for my website this coming summer, now that I have a
digital camera and better photo processing software.

Clay soil seems to be popular, but I don't have access to
any. I tried aKwatik fertilizers last year but found they clogged too
easily. Making my own this year.

## What clogged too easily? Your filter????

Steve J. Noll | Ventura California
| Glass Block Pond http://www.kissingfrogs.tv

--
Carol...
My website:
http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
[Insert humorous, clever or profound quote here]
~~~~~~~~~{@ ~~~~~~~~~{@ ~~~~~~~~~{@

"Steve J. Noll" wrote in message
...
suggestions

I use 18-inch diameter 7-inch deep plastic pots from Home Depot.
No holes.

## Ok, this is what I was asking - do the hardy lilies thrive in a solid pot
or perhaps one with only one bottom hole. I wasn't sure if their roots
needed more water circulation than a solid wall pot allowed. I can look for
these pots at my Home Depot here in TN. I already have a few I used as
planters for the porch last summer. :-)

I've heard that hardy lilies want large diameter shallow
pots. Last season I used the Schultz Aquatic soil - it's like a
ceramic and is perfectly clean. I'm getting ready to re-pot now and
will be using a mix of that, composted steer manure, and a little 'Koi
Clay'.

## What is koi clay? Our native clay grows beautiful water lilies. I add
some rose fertilizer sticks and Ironite to the potting soil (clean clay from
our own land). I try and do them every year because they grow so rapidly.
I hope to take new pics for my website this coming summer, now that I have a
digital camera and better photo processing software.

Clay soil seems to be popular, but I don't have access to
any. I tried aKwatik fertilizers last year but found they clogged too
easily. Making my own this year.

## What clogged too easily? Your filter????

Steve J. Noll | Ventura California
| Glass Block Pond http://www.kissingfrogs.tv

--
Carol...
My website:
http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
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"REBEL JOE" wrote in message
...
I don't use any soil in my lillys and they do fine. I use those baskets
with just river rock in them.
=============================
I tried that several years ago and my lilies didn't do well in the gravel at
all. They were small, the leaves were small and pale and there were few
flowers. Several didn't survive the winter. However, my water iris and
most other plants will do fairly well in a fine gravel (not sand). I think
I'm going to eliminate the pond pots and use the regular solid side pots
from now on.
--
Carol...
My website:
http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
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