My waterlilies are not quite good this year, not many flowers and the leaves
are small too.
I intend to fertilise them but am afraid of algae booming. Any ideas, we are
in middle of summer at the moment. Cheers.

YSL

On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 16:29:06 +1100, "YSL" wrote:

My waterlilies are not quite good this year, not many flowers and the leaves
are small too.
I intend to fertilise them but am afraid of algae booming. Any ideas, we are
in middle of summer at the moment. Cheers.

YSL

Please excuse this off topic response to a serious question:

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get fertilizer tabs and push them down into the mud. I use closed pots for my lilies
so nothing really leaches out. Ingrid

What do you mean by closed pots ? Tell me more. Howard

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get fertilizer tabs and push them down into the mud. I use closed pots for
my lilies
so nothing really leaches out. Ingrid

no holes in the bottom. Ingrid

"Howard" (remove XYZ) wrote:
What do you mean by closed pots ? Tell me more. Howard

"Howard" (remove XYZ) wrote:

What do you mean by closed pots ?

For years, I have used 3-gallon food-grade pails; they're big enough for
hardly lilies to do fine if fed occasionally. Available cheap or free from
your local bakery/donut shop, since they get fillings in them. I confess
to using Lilypons' "Lilytabs" for feeding, which are probably too
expensive, but for a couple dozen lilies fed perhaps 3 times over the
season, it's one of the cheaper things in life.
FWIW, I use a "Lilyliftr" to move them around: 10-foot hunk of wood closet
rod with a screw hook in the end. The deluxe model has a stainless hose
clamp (the type that tightens with a screw) around the hook end of the rod
to prevent splitting. It hangs horizontally in the shed on a couple of
bike hooks alongside the string trimmer when not in use. Has lasted for
years.
Right now all this is under at least a foot of ice {:-(


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at www.albany.net/~gwoods
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1200' elevation. NY WO G

"Howard" (remove XYZ) wrote in message ...
What do you mean by closed pots ? Tell me more. Howard


I have my lilies is plastic dishpans.
Every year or 2 I lift them out of the pond and divide them.
I stick plant tabs or jobs fertilizer sticks in the dirt
all around the roots.
I cover the dirt with egg size river rock to keep the fish
from digging in the dirt and I've never had trouble with
algae blooms from the fertilizer.
This has worked well for me for 5 years.

I know some folks plant their lilies bare root on the
bottom and just anchor them in place with rocks or bricks.
I don't know how they fertilize!

Peace!
Dan D. Louisville KY good ole USA
http://ky-dan.com

"Gary Woods" wrote in message
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"Howard" (remove XYZ) wrote:

What do you mean by closed pots ?

I was thinking that maybe Ingrid had found some great new non spill,
koi safe pot. Sigh.

For years, I have used 3-gallon food-grade pails; they're big enough for
hardly lilies to do fine if fed occasionally. Available cheap or free
from
your local bakery/donut shop, since they get fillings in them.

I am using cut off 5 gallon pails for about half the lilies. They are a bit
hard on the hands since the top part with the handle is cut off. I get
free 5 gallon soy sauce buckets from a local restraunt.


FWIW, I use a "Lilyliftr" to move them around: 10-foot hunk of wood
closet
rod with a screw hook in the end. The deluxe model has a stainless hose
clamp (the type that tightens with a screw) around the hook end of the rod
to prevent splitting. It hangs horizontally in the shed on a couple of
bike hooks alongside the string trimmer when not in use. Has lasted for
years.
Right now all this is under at least a foot of ice {:-(

I think when spring rolls around I a going to build a simple crane to lift
the
pots out of the water. It is not too bad moving them around but getting
them
in and out of the water is a back killer. Maybe go down to harbor freight
and
buy an electric winch to make it easier.

I am also going to replace the gravel in all non lillie plants with pea
gravel.
Would do the lillies too if I had some way to fertilize them without the
stuff leaching back into the water. Gravel is perhaps a bit too flow tru
to use with fertilizer.

Howard



Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at www.albany.net/~gwoods
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1200' elevation. NY WO G

I use Jobs fertilizer sticks that are about 1/4" in diameter and
almost 2" long. I poke a rigid plastic tube 46" long containing a
1/4" Dia. x 48" long dowel into the dirt under the stones that keep
the koi from digging and remove the dowel, insert a fertilizer stick
and ram it into the dirt with the dowel. Five fertilizer sticks
once a month for a 10" pot are recommended for regular flower pots.
I use 3 gallon pots for lilies and fertilize with 5 sticks twice a
month.

Regards,

Hal

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My waterlilies are not quite good this year, not many flowers and the leaves
are small too.
I intend to fertilise them but am afraid of algae booming. Any ideas, we are
in middle of summer at the moment. Cheers.

YSL

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I get it that people using closed bottom pots for lilies, but how to seal
the top then? Is there any way? Like place pebbles on top? They won't stop
fertiliser leaking back to water. Thanks a lot.

YSL


"Howard" (remove XYZ) wrote in message
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"Gary Woods" wrote in message
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"Howard" (remove XYZ) wrote:

What do you mean by closed pots ?

I was thinking that maybe Ingrid had found some great new non spill,
koi safe pot. Sigh.

For years, I have used 3-gallon food-grade pails; they're big enough for
hardly lilies to do fine if fed occasionally. Available cheap or free
from
your local bakery/donut shop, since they get fillings in them.

I am using cut off 5 gallon pails for about half the lilies. They are a
bit
hard on the hands since the top part with the handle is cut off. I get
free 5 gallon soy sauce buckets from a local restraunt.


FWIW, I use a "Lilyliftr" to move them around: 10-foot hunk of wood
closet
rod with a screw hook in the end. The deluxe model has a stainless hose
clamp (the type that tightens with a screw) around the hook end of the
rod
to prevent splitting. It hangs horizontally in the shed on a couple of
bike hooks alongside the string trimmer when not in use. Has lasted for
years.
Right now all this is under at least a foot of ice {:-(

I think when spring rolls around I a going to build a simple crane to lift
the
pots out of the water. It is not too bad moving them around but getting
them
in and out of the water is a back killer. Maybe go down to harbor freight
and
buy an electric winch to make it easier.

I am also going to replace the gravel in all non lillie plants with pea
gravel.
Would do the lillies too if I had some way to fertilize them without the
stuff leaching back into the water. Gravel is perhaps a bit too flow tru
to use with fertilizer.

Howard



Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at www.albany.net/~gwoods
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1200' elevation. NY WO G

If you push the fertilizer tab or stick a few inches into the soil it will
not
leach back out. People often place pebbles on top of the soil to keep
the koi and goldfish from digging in the dirt. That messes up the water.
Some are using gravel instead of soil for their plants that they do not
fertilize. The idea is the plants take all their nutrition from the water
so
why bother with the messy soil.

I have over a 100 plant containers in the ponds and it seems that one
always gets tipped over or dug into. It makes a mess. Was looking into
non soil media a while back and the only affordable thing I found was
gravel (rounded not sharp). But it may not work for lillies in that the
gravel would allow fertilizer to leach back into the water.

Howard

"YSL" wrote in message
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I get it that people using closed bottom pots for lilies, but how to seal
the top then? Is there any way? Like place pebbles on top? They won't stop
fertiliser leaking back to water. Thanks a lot.

YSL

"YSL" wrote in message
...
I get it that people using closed bottom pots for lilies, but how to seal
the top then? Is there any way? Like place pebbles on top? They won't stop
fertiliser leaking back to water. Thanks a lot.

I plant my parrots feather in a pot of pea gravel.
It's just an anchor point.
I plant my irus and lizzards tail bare root.
I just simply set them on a plant shelf and place
bricks around them to hold them up. They seem to get plenty
of nutrients out of the water and grow pretty well.
I have to yank them out and divide at least once a year
but twice would be better.

I plant my water lilies in dishpans as I said earlier.
I use cheap plant food sticks and cover the top with 2 inch
smooth river rock to keep the fishies from digging in the dirt.
Dish pans don't tip over!

Peace!
Dan D. Louisville KY good ole USA
http://ky-dan.com

We don't have koi problem here because they are banned in this State. We can
only keep gold fish, Sigh.


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mine are genuuuuuwine lily pots. get em from The Pond Lady. they also
have hooks on
em since I hang my pots. I load the top with big gravel and cause they
are high (no
more than 10" below the water) the koi dont dance over them as easily and
the water
is just warmer at the top. get great blooming on those most in the sun.
INgrid

"Howard" (remove XYZ) wrote:
I was thinking that maybe Ingrid had found some great new non spill,
koi safe pot. Sigh.

I have never had a problem. I buy the fertilizer tabs that are made
specifically for ponds. I poke the tabs into the soil a few inches and then
cover it up. I fertilize once a month during growing season.
"YSL" wrote in message
...
My waterlilies are not quite good this year, not many flowers and the
leaves
are small too.
I intend to fertilise them but am afraid of algae booming. Any ideas, we
are
in middle of summer at the moment. Cheers.

YSL

Australia bans koi? We have people on this newsgroup from Australia . . .
(stupid question, but) are you sure??? What a bummer! Some of the
"goldfish", like the comets and shubunkins, are quite beautiful and can get
pretty big, but koi are still the "Cadillac" of fish.

Lee

"YSL" wrote in message
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We don't have koi problem here because they are banned in this State. We
can
only keep gold fish, Sigh.