I've never seen a pond with netting over it, but doesn't it look kind of,
ah, ugly?


Joe

Well Aaaah no take a look at this
picture
these people covered the whole pond area
with an arbor
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...7e31ac26044a48
d82/fe1b5014.jpg
TerryinTexas
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4292208749

Fringe, I know exactly what you mean about the
Jacuzzi heater. Pond water is at 34 degrees F.
It was a horribly cold January! Glad to see
February happen.
Our air temps are supposed to be 50 degrees
tomorrow. I don't know when I've so looked
forward to spring.

Nedra in Missouri
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Fringe Ryder" wrote in message
...
Based on the religious here, I will probably try BZT (and koi clay too)
this spring.

Having fallen in both my ponds this year, I know what the bottoms are
like.
Mine don't need vacuuming yet. But a good jacuzzi heater would be a
winner.

"Nedra" sez:
Don't have either a skimmer or a bottom drain,
Fringe. I do use BZT faithfully and will vacuum
the bottom this spring

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Fringe Ryder" wrote in message
.. .
"BenignVanilla" sez:
My current plan does not include a skimmer. Do you think I'll regret
it?

I'm in the minority apparently. I don't have a skimmer. You can see
my
pond pics at http://www.fringeweb.com/Ponds/kc/MyPond.html

If you could put one in easily, do it. But if you can't, it's not
going
to
destroy the pond.

And no, I don't have a bottom drain either.

On Sat, 01 Feb 2003 03:50:54 GMT, "Nedra"
wrote:

Fringe, I know exactly what you mean about the
Jacuzzi heater. Pond water is at 34 degrees F.
It was a horribly cold January! Glad to see
February happen.
Our air temps are supposed to be 50 degrees
tomorrow. I don't know when I've so looked
forward to spring.

I checked the temp of the jacuzzi today. 44 degrees. I suspect the
pond is about the same. Some time next month i will get some vitamin
inhanced GF food for thier first spring.

·.·´¨ ¨)) -:¦:-
¸.·´ .·´¨¨))
jammer
((¸¸.·´ ..·´
-:¦:- ((¸¸

Now that's an idea I haven't thought of ... Vitamin
Enhanced Koi Food. Hmmm - I usually
get Sho Koi or something similar. Your temps
sound really good. I wont be feeding my guys
and gals until the water warms up to 55 and stays
there. Have no idea when that will be .. Where
are you located??

Nedra in Missouri
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"jammer" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 01 Feb 2003 03:50:54 GMT, "Nedra"
wrote:

Fringe, I know exactly what you mean about the
Jacuzzi heater. Pond water is at 34 degrees F.
It was a horribly cold January! Glad to see
February happen.
Our air temps are supposed to be 50 degrees
tomorrow. I don't know when I've so looked
forward to spring.

I checked the temp of the jacuzzi today. 44 degrees. I suspect the
pond is about the same. Some time next month i will get some vitamin
inhanced GF food for thier first spring.

·.·´¨ ¨)) -:¦:-
¸.·´ .·´¨¨))
jammer
((¸¸.·´ ..·´
-:¦:- ((¸¸

On Sat, 01 Feb 2003 05:20:37 GMT, "Nedra"
wrote:

Now that's an idea I haven't thought of ... Vitamin
Enhanced Koi Food. Hmmm - I usually
get Sho Koi or something similar. Your temps
sound really good. I wont be feeding my guys
and gals until the water warms up to 55 and stays
there. Have no idea when that will be .. Where
are you located??

I am in north central Texas. I don't know if there is such a thing as
vitamin enhanced GF food, i am just thinking they will be hungry and
since they are months old they could maybe use a good start. I don't
expect to be able to hand train them, but i sure would enjoy having
pet fish instead of just skeeter eaters.

·.·´¨ ¨)) -:¦:-
¸.·´ .·´¨¨))
jammer
((¸¸.·´ ..·´
-:¦:- ((¸¸

(Justin) wrote:

Hello Justin

J Nets are not necessary if predators are not an issue and if
J trees are not dropping their leaves. They are a real help in
J the fall, however, and I would recommend one. Aesthetics are
J key for me and I'd rather not have one. I vouch for the
J bottom drain. I do not have a skimmer, but would like one.
J The bottom drain removes much of the debris and sludge that
J forms in the pond bottom. Best investment made for the pond.

I'd guess this depends a lot on the type of pond. That sludge is very
useful to have in a nature pond.

Been reading this group for a week and it seems mostly to be fish
ponds, am I right in thinking this?


ObIntro: 90% finished on my fourth pond project. A 45' x 15' x 3'
bottom pond (butyl lined), pumped 12' to a 4'x4'x3' square raised pond
in rendered block faced with granite and topped with sandstone via
submersible 200w pump. That overflows into small splash pool/grotto
via slate, which in turns enters a rendered butyl stream edged in
granite and about 30' long. Alas, phots not developed yet.

--
Simon Avery, Dartmoor, UK Ý http://www.digdilem.org/

no... http://puregold.aquaria.net/ponds/pond1.html
6th and 7th picture down, no aluminum posts anymore either. Ingrid

joe wrote:

wrote:

. design the pond with netting

I've never seen a pond with netting over it, but doesn't it look kind of,
ah, ugly?

wrote in message ...
I forgot... nets also keep fish from jumping to their death. and predators are
always an issue if the pond is outside. I dont even see the fine netting anymore,
but then the health of my fish are more imporant than aesthetics for me. I suppose
one of these years there will be enough sludge in the bottom that I will have to
clean it, but I one of those dont like to put holes in my pond at the very bottom
where if it leaks there would be no water left for my fish. Ingrid

I agree to an extent. Predators are not big enough of an issue for
some pondowners. If you want to keep a net, you can. Depends on your
scenario. If you are having problems with predators, there are many
things you can do. A net does not HAVE to be one of them. Unless
you're raising your fish for sale, aesthetics are important to
everyone. I don't know why you'd raise fish that you had to struggle
to see. On bottom drains, most people have had no problems with leaks.

Justin