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Old 03-05-2005, 06:54 PM
Peter
 
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I, like everyone else in rec.ponds, have been greatly annoyed by this
inconsiderate and intrusive crossposting that has been going on.

May I suggest that we consider turning the cannon around, to the
direction from whence it is coming? (In the military it's called
counterforce ops.)

May I suggest that we look up all of the NGs to which this twit
Jabriol, and all of his immature friends normally post; and then all
of us, (each of us), in rec.ponds, cross-post attacks back to all of
their home favorite NGs, and so totally swamp them to the point that
they themselves cannot begin to keep up with their silly posting
retorts; and then their own NGs will become completely useless to they
themselves. Maybe only then will they become introspective enough, if
only from their own NG peer pressures, to cease and desist, and return
to their own playpens and stay the Hell out of ours.

I'll do my part in the attack, if sufficient others are willing also.

Enough is enough,
Peter
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Old 03-05-2005, 07:17 PM
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Peter wrote:

May I suggest that we consider turning the cannon around, to the
direction from whence it is coming?


Never works. Horribly bad idea. Answering abuse with abuse is lose-lose.
The group is fine now, mostly just running my adaptive wetware troll
filter.


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Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G
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Old 03-05-2005, 07:18 PM
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On Tue, 03 May 2005 11:54:43 -0600, Peter
wrote:

I, like everyone else in rec.ponds, have been greatly annoyed by this
inconsiderate and intrusive crossposting that has been going on.

May I suggest that we consider turning the cannon around, to the
direction from whence it is coming? (In the military it's called
counterforce ops.)

May I suggest that we look up all of the NGs to which this twit
Jabriol, and all of his immature friends normally post; and then all
of us, (each of us), in rec.ponds, cross-post attacks back to all of
their home favorite NGs, and so totally swamp them to the point that
they themselves cannot begin to keep up with their silly posting
retorts; and then their own NGs will become completely useless to they
themselves. Maybe only then will they become introspective enough, if
only from their own NG peer pressures, to cease and desist, and return
to their own playpens and stay the Hell out of ours.

I'll do my part in the attack, if sufficient others are willing also.

Enough is enough,
Peter


Just ignore them, why waste the effort?

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Old 03-05-2005, 07:43 PM
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Peter wrote:
I, like everyone else in rec.ponds, have been greatly annoyed by this
inconsiderate and intrusive crossposting that has been going on.

May I suggest that we consider turning the cannon around, to the
direction from whence it is coming? (In the military it's called
counterforce ops.)

May I suggest that we look up all of the NGs to which this twit
Jabriol, and all of his immature friends normally post; and then all
of us, (each of us), in rec.ponds, cross-post attacks back to all of
their home favorite NGs, and so totally swamp them to the point that
they themselves cannot begin to keep up with their silly posting
retorts; and then their own NGs will become completely useless to they
themselves. Maybe only then will they become introspective enough, if
only from their own NG peer pressures, to cease and desist, and return
to their own playpens and stay the Hell out of ours.

I'll do my part in the attack, if sufficient others are willing also.

Enough is enough,
Peter


All you would do is spam other newsgroups that are already having the
same problems we are. alt.religion.jehovas-witnesses is the main NG
Jabriol frequents and it is already useless to its regular users. Go
have a look there sometime and you'll see what I mean.

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Old 03-05-2005, 07:44 PM
Derek Broughton
 
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Peter wrote:

May I suggest that we look up all of the NGs to which this twit
Jabriol, and all of his immature friends normally post; and then all
of us, (each of us), in rec.ponds, cross-post attacks back to all of
their home favorite NGs, and so totally swamp them to the point that
they themselves cannot begin to keep up with their silly posting
retorts; and then their own NGs will become completely useless to they
themselves. Maybe only then will they become introspective enough, if
only from their own NG peer pressures, to cease and desist, and return
to their own playpens and stay the Hell out of ours.


That'll only encourage them.

I'll do my part in the attack, if sufficient others are willing also.


Nope. It's not worth the cost (though I have to confess, I'm not suffering
like most of you - running my own server, I get to filter out anything
that's cross-posted to rec.ponds and any newsgroup with "religion",
"madonna", "theism" or "creation" in the name - one download yesterday
filtered 30 messages for 20 kept - I feel for the rest of you).
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Old 03-05-2005, 07:52 PM
 
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at least there is one smart apple in rec.ponds,


I will not post for 24 hours,

either Carol retracts her statement that I rape my daughter as a minor,
or either she gets her account canned, or she stop posting to arjw...

if not, when I return... no filter will work.

so far I only use jabriol...

I can do the NYM shift like Carol, and you guys wont ever know what hit
ya..

24 hours...

it is 2:53 pm est.

bye bye


Elaine T wrote:
Peter wrote:
I, like everyone else in rec.ponds, have been greatly annoyed by

this
inconsiderate and intrusive crossposting that has been going on.

May I suggest that we consider turning the cannon around, to the
direction from whence it is coming? (In the military it's called
counterforce ops.)

May I suggest that we look up all of the NGs to which this twit
Jabriol, and all of his immature friends normally post; and then

all
of us, (each of us), in rec.ponds, cross-post attacks back to all

of
their home favorite NGs, and so totally swamp them to the point

that
they themselves cannot begin to keep up with their silly posting
retorts; and then their own NGs will become completely useless to

they
themselves. Maybe only then will they become introspective enough,

if
only from their own NG peer pressures, to cease and desist, and

return
to their own playpens and stay the Hell out of ours.

I'll do my part in the attack, if sufficient others are willing

also.

Enough is enough,
Peter


All you would do is spam other newsgroups that are already having the


same problems we are. alt.religion.jehovas-witnesses is the main NG
Jabriol frequents and it is already useless to its regular users. Go


have a look there sometime and you'll see what I mean.

--
Elaine T __
http://eethomp.com/fish.html '__
rec.aquaria.* FAQ http://faq.thekrib.com


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Old 03-05-2005, 08:09 PM
john
 
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eh, we'd become just like em. And who wants to be an a$$? Nice guys
(and gals) are the minority, but it's a status worth enduring abuse
for, that's what I say

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Old 03-05-2005, 08:34 PM
David
 
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Gary,
Could you please elaborate a bit on your 'adaptive wetware troll
filter'? What newsreader does it work with? Is it DIY, or purchased?

On Tue, 03 May 2005 18:17:30 GMT, Gary Woods
wrote:

Peter wrote:

May I suggest that we consider turning the cannon around, to the
direction from whence it is coming?


Never works. Horribly bad idea. Answering abuse with abuse is lose-lose.
The group is fine now, mostly just running my adaptive wetware troll
filter.


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G


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Old 03-05-2005, 09:05 PM
Reel McKoi
 
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"Peter" wrote in message
...
I, like everyone else in rec.ponds, have been greatly annoyed by this
inconsiderate and intrusive crossposting that has been going on.

May I suggest that we consider turning the cannon around, to the
direction from whence it is coming? (In the military it's called
counterforce ops.)


## That probably would not work. HE would report everyone to their ISPs,
telling them to "just pull his/her service." You would hurt yourself in the
end. It also wouldn't be fair to those who despise these trolls as much as
we do.

May I suggest that we look up all of the NGs to which this twit
Jabriol, and all of his immature friends normally post; and then all
of us, (each of us), in rec.ponds, cross-post attacks back to all of
their home favorite NGs, and so totally swamp them to the point that
they themselves cannot begin to keep up with their silly posting
retorts; and then their own NGs will become completely useless to they
themselves. Maybe only then will they become introspective enough, if
only from their own NG peer pressures, to cease and desist, and return
to their own playpens and stay the Hell out of ours.


## It may also make some of them worse. You can usually tell by the
Subject if it's a pond related group or not. Ignore those that are
obviously Jabber threads. He would LOVE it if he could start a cross-NG
flame war! He'd be thrilled out of his mind. Those on AFN are ignoring
him for the most part. We can as well. :-)

I'll do my part in the attack, if sufficient others are willing also.


Enough is enough,


## Why do what he's hoping for??? We already have one person here
encouraging him....

Peter

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"To persevere in one's duty and
be silent, is the best answer to calumny."
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What a useless waste of skin you are... geeeeezzzzz

wrote in message
oups.com...

at least there is one smart apple in rec.ponds,


I will not post for 24 hours,

either Carol retracts her statement that I rape my daughter as a minor,
or either she gets her account canned, or she stop posting to arjw...

if not, when I return... no filter will work.

so far I only use jabriol...

I can do the NYM shift like Carol, and you guys wont ever know what hit
ya..

24 hours...

it is 2:53 pm est.

bye bye


Elaine T wrote:
Peter wrote:
I, like everyone else in rec.ponds, have been greatly annoyed by

this
inconsiderate and intrusive crossposting that has been going on.

May I suggest that we consider turning the cannon around, to the
direction from whence it is coming? (In the military it's called
counterforce ops.)

May I suggest that we look up all of the NGs to which this twit
Jabriol, and all of his immature friends normally post; and then

all
of us, (each of us), in rec.ponds, cross-post attacks back to all

of
their home favorite NGs, and so totally swamp them to the point

that
they themselves cannot begin to keep up with their silly posting
retorts; and then their own NGs will become completely useless to

they
themselves. Maybe only then will they become introspective enough,

if
only from their own NG peer pressures, to cease and desist, and

return
to their own playpens and stay the Hell out of ours.

I'll do my part in the attack, if sufficient others are willing

also.

Enough is enough,
Peter


All you would do is spam other newsgroups that are already having the


same problems we are. alt.religion.jehovas-witnesses is the main NG
Jabriol frequents and it is already useless to its regular users. Go


have a look there sometime and you'll see what I mean.

--
Elaine T __
http://eethomp.com/fish.html '__
rec.aquaria.* FAQ http://faq.thekrib.com




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Old 03-05-2005, 10:24 PM
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Johnny: Please mind your Cross-posting. When you reply to a newsgroup
message, PLEASE take a quick look at the groups you're posting to.

--Bryan


On 5/3/2005 1:41 PM Johnny let loose a lemur across the keyboard and it
typed:BR

What a useless waste of skin you are... geeeeezzzzz

wrote in message
oups.com...

at least there is one smart apple in rec.ponds,


I will not post for 24 hours,

either Carol retracts her statement that I rape my daughter as a minor,
or either she gets her account canned, or she stop posting to arjw...

if not, when I return... no filter will work.

so far I only use jabriol...

I can do the NYM shift like Carol, and you guys wont ever know what hit
ya..

24 hours...

it is 2:53 pm est.

bye bye


Elaine T wrote:

Peter wrote:

I, like everyone else in rec.ponds, have been greatly annoyed by


this

inconsiderate and intrusive crossposting that has been going on.

May I suggest that we consider turning the cannon around, to the
direction from whence it is coming? (In the military it's called
counterforce ops.)

May I suggest that we look up all of the NGs to which this twit
Jabriol, and all of his immature friends normally post; and then


all

of us, (each of us), in rec.ponds, cross-post attacks back to all


of

their home favorite NGs, and so totally swamp them to the point


that

they themselves cannot begin to keep up with their silly posting
retorts; and then their own NGs will become completely useless to


they

themselves. Maybe only then will they become introspective enough,


if

only from their own NG peer pressures, to cease and desist, and


return

to their own playpens and stay the Hell out of ours.

I'll do my part in the attack, if sufficient others are willing


also.

Enough is enough,
Peter

All you would do is spam other newsgroups that are already having the


same problems we are. alt.religion.jehovas-witnesses is the main NG
Jabriol frequents and it is already useless to its regular users. Go


have a look there sometime and you'll see what I mean.

--
Elaine T __
http://eethomp.com/fish.html '__
rec.aquaria.* FAQ http://faq.thekrib.com




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"BryanB" wrote in message
ink.net...
Johnny: Please mind your Cross-posting. When you reply to a newsgroup
message, PLEASE take a quick look at the groups you're posting to.

================
I think part of the problem is people hit the send button and don't think to
look and see where the message is going. I'm guilty of the same thing at
times. Perhaps if send the NGs a message like yours above, they would be
more aware and remove the NGs that are off-topic.
--
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~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o

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wrote: at least there is one smart apple in
rec.ponds,


I will not post for 24 hours,

either Carol retracts her statement


Retract, retract, retract...................... ~ jan
~Power to the Porg, Flow On!~
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Old 03-05-2005, 10:52 PM
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Actually, I see it as *THE* problem. I already have any message from a
certain user killfiled. And, I've also taken up replying directly to
those who *have* crossposted inappropriately to make sure they're
posting to groups that are actually relevant to their conversation.
(I've only been doing that for two days now so I have yet to experience
any dent in the inappropriate crossposts...)

I *REALLY* wish I had a newsreader that would kill *ANY* post that is
cross posted...

--Bryan



On 5/3/2005 2:41 PM Reel McKoi let loose a lemur across the keyboard and
it typed:BR

"BryanB" wrote in message
ink.net...

Johnny: Please mind your Cross-posting. When you reply to a newsgroup
message, PLEASE take a quick look at the groups you're posting to.


================
I think part of the problem is people hit the send button and don't think to
look and see where the message is going. I'm guilty of the same thing at
times. Perhaps if send the NGs a message like yours above, they would be
more aware and remove the NGs that are off-topic.

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