Hazel wrote:
[...]
I agree that the question is, what the hell for?


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Well, managed for their nuts would you believe.

Interesting. My understanding is that the conventional way is to keep
them as open-centred shrubs if you want nuts. I've never done it
myself, though. Was there accompanying text explaining what they were
doing?

--
Mike.

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But managed. Then the question is, what the hell for?

As I say, not necessarily. If most of them were single-stemmed,
I would assume that they were planted from a clone that tends not
to sucker. I am sure that someone has selected such a clone in
the past, given natural variation and human, er, deviance.

I've got a one-year-old hazel in a pot (thanks, Mr. Squirrel!) and
that's throwing up a sucker alreadt.

Yes, I'm sure it is possible to select for non-suckering, but I really
can't think why anyone would want to. The nuts would be more difficult
to pick, and the other useful attribute of hazel, long straight rods, is
lost.

thinks

Wych Hazel, perhaps?

/thinks

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Hazel wrote:
[...]
I agree that the question is, what the hell for?


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

Well, managed for their nuts would you believe.

Interesting. My understanding is that the conventional way is to keep
them as open-centred shrubs if you want nuts. I've never done it
myself, though. Was there accompanying text explaining what they were
doing?

--
Mike.

What advantage there is I dont know Kay, though guess's give for the animals
that would be under them, as in the difference of pollarding over copiceing,
that the multiple stem needs more manageing at its base, or perhaps for
vehicle access ?

And Mike. the article actually was about English truffles saying the truffle
grows in hazel woods, with a pic of such

Hazel

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Hazel wrote:

And Mike. the article actually was about English truffles saying the truffle
grows in hazel woods, with a pic of such

Now, THAT'S nuts!

There is an extremely interesting truffle museum in the Dordogne,
but I now forget where, and we spent a long time in it. It helps
to read French, though the main displays have translations into
English. Anyway, it described the ecology needed for truffles.

Basically, we don't have a hope. There are truffle species that
grow in the UK, and Tuber melanosporum (the black truffle) is JUST
about marginal here, but it really needs a medium shallow soil
over chalk that gets a good warm summer. Well, we have very
shallow soils over chalk, but not many medium shallow ones, and we
rarely get good warm summers.

Sorry, but ....


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

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Janet Baraclough wrote:
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Both Bean and CTW say that Corylus avellana occasionally grows as
a tree.

They can be multistemmed, and still be classified as a tree.

Not in context.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

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writes

Hazel wrote:
[...]
I agree that the question is, what the hell for?


Well, managed for their nuts would you believe.

Interesting. My understanding is that the conventional way is to keep
them as open-centred shrubs if you want nuts. I've never done it
myself, though. Was there accompanying text explaining what they were
doing?

What advantage there is I dont know Kay, though guess's give for the animals
that would be under them, as in the difference of pollarding over copiceing,
that the multiple stem needs more manageing at its base, or perhaps for
vehicle access ?

I would have thought that the single stem would need a lot more managing
as the natural habit is for multiple stems.

No point in doing it to avoid animal damage as not a lot eats hazel
leaves, and squirrels would not be deterred but the tree form.

What vehicle would need access?

And Mike. the article actually was about English truffles saying the truffle
grows in hazel woods, with a pic of such

Could it be that the pic wasn't actually hazel? Magazines aren't always
totally accurate
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

,
Hazel wrote:

And Mike. the article actually was about English truffles saying the
truffle
grows in hazel woods, with a pic of such

Now, THAT'S nuts!

There is an extremely interesting truffle museum in the Dordogne,
but I now forget where, and we spent a long time in it. It helps
to read French, though the main displays have translations into
English. Anyway, it described the ecology needed for truffles.

Basically, we don't have a hope. There are truffle species that
grow in the UK, and Tuber melanosporum (the black truffle) is JUST
about marginal here, but it really needs a medium shallow soil
over chalk that gets a good warm summer. Well, we have very
shallow soils over chalk, but not many medium shallow ones, and we
rarely get good warm summers.

Sorry, but ....

Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

I think I'll go see if I can have the magazine from the surgery it was in or
just get the reference to give in here.

Hazel

Hazel wrote:
[...]
I agree that the question is, what the hell for?


Well, managed for their nuts would you believe.

Interesting. My understanding is that the conventional way is to keep
them as open-centred shrubs if you want nuts. I've never done it
myself, though. Was there accompanying text explaining what they were
doing?

What advantage there is I dont know Kay, though guess's give for the
animals
that would be under them, as in the difference of pollarding over
copiceing,
that the multiple stem needs more manageing at its base, or perhaps for
vehicle access ?

I would have thought that the single stem would need a lot more managing
as the natural habit is for multiple stems.

No point in doing it to avoid animal damage as not a lot eats hazel
leaves, and squirrels would not be deterred but the tree form.

What vehicle would need access?

And Mike. the article actually was about English truffles saying the
truffle
grows in hazel woods, with a pic of such

Could it be that the pic wasn't actually hazel? Magazines aren't always
totally accurate
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

With regards to the further doubt about is it was hazel refer to my answer
to Mick

Hazel

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Jaques d'Alltrades wrote:

I've got a one-year-old hazel in a pot (thanks, Mr. Squirrel!) and
that's throwing up a sucker alreadt.

Yup. That is also well within natural variation. I am not disagreeing
that hazel's normal form is as a clear shrub, and even when it grows
as a canopy tree (in another sense) is almost always multi-stemmed.

Yes, I'm sure it is possible to select for non-suckering, but I really
can't think why anyone would want to. The nuts would be more difficult
to pick, and the other useful attribute of hazel, long straight rods, is
lost.

thinks
Wych Hazel, perhaps?
/thinks

Nuts :-)

Witch's broom handle, perhaps :-)

It is quite possible that this is another of the clones of useful
plants that were propagated by their users, rather than London-based
horticulturalists (who did the writing). Berberis vulgaris "asperma"
seems to be another, where I have one and the national collection
doesn't - but where mine is probably NOT the clone described in
Bean!


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

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http://nomoresocks.newscientist.com/...x?productid=43


Even if this does have faint whiff of "ostrich scam" about it.

What - sort-of head-in-the-sand to see the truffles?

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I think I'll go see if I can have the magazine from the surgery it was
in or
just get the reference to give in here.

Please don't injure yourself or make yourself ill..it's only usenet :-)

Janet

from "Hazel" contains these words:


I think I'll go see if I can have the magazine from the surgery it was
in or
just get the reference to give in here.

Please don't injure yourself or make yourself ill..it's only usenet :-)

Janet

Hazel chuckles

I think I'll go see if I can have the magazine from the surgery it was in
or just get the reference to give in here.

Hazel

I went to the surgery, the magazine was no longer there

Hazel