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Wintering an Acer Palmatum Dissectum
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My Acer is starting to look very wind burnt and I don't have a sheltered spot to keep it in. I know they are hardy and don't get too badly damaged by frost but the winds get very blowy and nippy where I live. Is it OK to winter it indoors until the spring? Thanks Kate |
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Mab wrote:
Hi My Acer is starting to look very wind burnt and I don't have a sheltered spot to keep it in. I know they are hardy and don't get too badly damaged by frost but the winds get very blowy and nippy where I live. Is it OK to winter it indoors until the spring? I wouldn't want it to get warm enough to think it was spring already. They don't like exposure at any time of the year, but I'd leave it outside, preferably protecting the roots from frost: you can wrap the pot up in bubble-wrap or closed-cell foam. And you can stand it on a couple of bricks, or use pot feet: I expect you've got a good layer of drainage material in the bottom of the pot, but this won't work so well if the pot's directly on the ground. -- Mike. |
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Thanks Mike
I didn't explain to well earlier, we have lazy winds (go through you rather than round you during the winter blowing in off the north sea and up the estuary which we don't have the rest of the year) I'll go out and get some garden fleece and get it stood up on something. Just out of interest what would happen if it did think it was spring? would the growing season extend or would it just die? Many Thanks Kate |
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Mab wrote:
Thanks Mike [...] I'll go out and get some garden fleece and get it stood up on something. I'd probably use bubble wrap. Just out of interest what would happen if it did think it was spring? would the growing season extend or would it just die? What I was afraid of was the tree putting out new shoots too early; these would then try to develop, but the light conditions indoors wouldn't be right, so they'd be stunted, and, yes, they might die off. I don't think the tree itself would die there and then, but when it got outside again it might never catch up in that particular year. Somebody with more knowledge of the species may be able to tell you if that would weaken the tree so much that you'd lose it the following spring: I don't know. On the other hand, when buds started opening too early, you could put it outside again to give it enough light; this would then expose the young growth to the weather, and you'd have the same problem! (By the way, if you're using Google Groups, there's a good trick for replying to newsgroups. Instead of using the obvious "Reply" button, you can click "Show Options"; you then click the "Reply" link at the bottom left of the Options panel. You can then choose how much or how little you want to display of the message you're replying to. Why on earth Ggl have it set up this crazy way, nobody knows.) -- Mike. |
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Thanks Mike
It's times like this I wish I had room for a greenhouse, but tiny city gardens just don't allow for that. I will go and have a look at the groups you suggested. Kate |
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from Mab contains these words: Hi My Acer is starting to look very wind burnt and I don't have a sheltered spot to keep it in. I know they are hardy and don't get too badly damaged by frost but the winds get very blowy and nippy where I live. Is it OK to winter it indoors until the spring? Thanks Kate -- Mab Consider where it comes from. Ever seen film of the monkeys in Japan bathing in hot springs in the middle of winter? Trust me, leave it outdoors. |
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I agree, I have a small japanese maple outside and last year it was covered in a snow drift for a couple of months and yet it has done really well this year. The temperature here goes down to about -20c. Darren |
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It's more the wind I am concerned about, rather than the cold. It's already got significant wind burn.
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"Mab" wrote in message ... It's more the wind I am concerned about, rather than the cold. It's already got significant wind burn. -- Mab Cant you move the pot/plant to a more sheltered spot close to the wall of your house. This should give it the cover it requires, you should give it the right sheltered conditions all year round not just winter.Like you have said it is the sun/wind that does the damage.Try and find a spot with dappled shade.My Acer is on a south facing deck,but has cover from a large photinia red robin. Cheers Keith |
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Mab wrote:
It's more the wind I am concerned about, rather than the cold. It's already got significant wind burn. I have my acer palmatum outside in a large terracotta pot here in N. Wales (and prior to that in S.Bucks). It has survived the last three winters. My tree has presently got windburn, it didn't get quite enough water this year. I'm not worrying about it, the tree will shed its leaves soon, and grow a new set in spring. To keep your tree happy, wrap the pot in bubble wrap, raise it up slightly to ensure good drainage. Put it in a wind sheltered spot if possible - if not, perhaps try a windbreak on the windiest side for extra protection. The trouble with attempting to protectthe whole tree is perhaps causing moulds, and reducing the chances of rain watering. HTH Sarah |
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In article , Sarah Dale
writes My tree has presently got windburn, it didn't get quite enough water this year. Which begs the question... How much water is enough water for an Acer in a pot? And can it actually have too much - assuming the pot is well drained? My small potted Acer glade is looking a bit ragged this year. This was because I was trying to water them with rainwater - as I thought they needed (or were, at least, best suited) to an ericaceous compost - but I was corrected on this necessity a month or so ago. However, the watering follow-up question wasn't answered. -- Flower Bobdew South Facing Garden South West: UK |
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Flower Bobdew wrote:
In article , Sarah Dale writes My tree has presently got windburn, it didn't get quite enough water this year. Which begs the question... How much water is enough water for an Acer in a pot? And can it actually have too much - assuming the pot is well drained? My small potted Acer glade is looking a bit ragged this year. This was because I was trying to water them with rainwater - as I thought they needed (or were, at least, best suited) to an ericaceous compost - but I was corrected on this necessity a month or so ago. However, the watering follow-up question wasn't answered. my experience is that in a saucer they get upset about having wet feet, but with a free draining compst cope happily with reaular autimatic watering in addition to rain, no saucer & off the ground on pot feet pk |
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Well now I am confused. I thought Acers liked slightly acid soil so I'd been feeding with ericaceous feed. If they don't like that what do they like? and how much water is too much water because mine's been outside all summer in the dreadful rain so maybe that was too much?
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Flower Bobdew wrote:
Which begs the question... How much water is enough water for an Acer in a pot? And can it actually have too much - assuming the pot is well drained? A very hard question to answer because its going to depend on the size of the tree, the size and type of pot, location, natural precipitation and erm...... lots of things! For my tree, now 6 - 7 years old and about 2 - 3 ft tall in a 18" dia. pot, living in a windy garden, I normally aim to give it one whole watering can of water at least twice a week in summer, unless its been raining a lot. It gets watered at the same time as my other pots on the patio that are filled with summer annuals, and the tree also gets a feed at the same time these pots do. YMMV! Sarah |
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Sarah Dale writes
Flower Bobdew wrote: Which begs the question... How much water is enough water for an Acer in a pot? And can it actually have too much - assuming the pot is well drained? A very hard question to answer because its going to depend on the size of the tree, the size and type of pot, location, natural precipitation and erm...... lots of things! True! D'uh. % } I meant *my* pots, over there. {Points} For my tree, now 6 - 7 years old and about 2 - 3 ft tall in a 18" dia. pot, living in a windy garden, I normally aim to give it one whole watering can of water at least twice a week in summer, unless its been raining a lot. It gets watered at the same time as my other pots on the patio that are filled with summer annuals, and the tree also gets a feed at the same time these pots do. YMMV! I suppose a better way of putting it may've been - particularly during the summer months - can you *over water* Acer's in well maintained/drained pots. -- Flower Bobdew South Facing Garden South West: UK |
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