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Squirrels for some present a problem but does anyone have problems with deer
ticks and its associated Lyme desease?.....H


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Squirrels for some present a problem but does anyone have problems
with deer
ticks and its associated Lyme desease?.....H


Scotland has a huge deer population, and Lyme disease is a risk in
areas and occupations where people pick up ticks frequently. AFAIK,
squirrels here are not a vector in the disease's host cycle (nor are
dogs or cats, even though they get bitten by deer ticks).

Janet.


Thanks Janet.....I do not have deer in my garden area but I do have the
ticks....on 30 days of antibiotics as "one got me"...suspect before 'we
intruders' moved into this area deer roamed ... maybe not the antelope
tho....H


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before 'we intruders' moved into this area deer roamed ... maybe

not
the antelope tho....H


That's an encouraging word.

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In article , Janet Baraclough
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Scotland has a huge deer population, and Lyme disease is a risk in
areas and occupations where people pick up ticks frequently. AFAIK,
squirrels here are not a vector in the disease's host cycle (nor are
dogs or cats, even though they get bitten by deer ticks).


I was bitten by a tick in Texas a couple of years ago, it was very
nasty, I just thought I had something irritating on my scalp, then the
red marks tracked down my face. I kept on picking on what I thought was
a scab - it wasn't, it was the tick which had burrowed in - finally a
doctor colleague had a look and knew what it was immediately and I was
treated. However, I do still have a small indentation where it lodged -
it still gives me the creeps and I am fanatical about checking my body
after I have been abroad - I just hope we don't have too many at
Norwich!!!
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before 'we intruders' moved into this area deer roamed ... maybe

not
the antelope tho....H


That's an encouraging word.

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Well done Mike





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Squirrels for some present a problem but does anyone have problems
with deer
ticks and its associated Lyme desease?.....H


Scotland has a huge deer population, and Lyme disease is a risk in
areas and occupations where people pick up ticks frequently. AFAIK,
squirrels here are not a vector in the disease's host cycle (nor are
dogs or cats, even though they get bitten by deer ticks).


East Anglia is rich in deer too, and ones which carry Lyme disease are
not uncommon.

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"Judith Lea" wrote in message
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In article , Janet Baraclough
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Scotland has a huge deer population, and Lyme disease is a risk in
areas and occupations where people pick up ticks frequently. AFAIK,
squirrels here are not a vector in the disease's host cycle (nor are
dogs or cats, even though they get bitten by deer ticks).


I was bitten by a tick in Texas a couple of years ago, it was very
nasty, I just thought I had something irritating on my scalp, then the
red marks tracked down my face. I kept on picking on what I thought was
a scab - it wasn't, it was the tick which had burrowed in - finally a
doctor colleague had a look and knew what it was immediately and I was
treated. However, I do still have a small indentation where it lodged -
it still gives me the creeps and I am fanatical about checking my body
after I have been abroad - I just hope we don't have too many at
Norwich!!!
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Deep in the heart of Texas??????//


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Judith Lea wrote:
I was bitten by a tick in Texas a couple of years ago, it was very
nasty, I just thought I had something irritating on my scalp, then the
red marks tracked down my face. I kept on picking on what I thought was
a scab - it wasn't, it was the tick which had burrowed in - finally a
doctor colleague had a look and knew what it was immediately and I was
treated. However, I do still have a small indentation where it lodged -
it still gives me the creeps and I am fanatical about checking my body
after I have been abroad - I just hope we don't have too many at
Norwich!!!


Norwich, UK? As I recall parts of East Anglia are among the UK hotpots
for Lyme Disease, but I imagine you should be safe enough in the city of
Norwich.

ISTR that the ticks do not survive in dry conditions, so best advice is
to avoid the sort of damp areas where they do survive (typically damp
undergrowth). If you are walking in the country be careful in long
bracken (tuck your trousers into your socks!)

I'm sure I read that advice somewhere, but I might just have been
dreaming (and it might all be nonsense anyway).
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ISTR that the ticks do not survive in dry conditions, so best advice is to
avoid the sort of damp areas where they do survive (typically damp
undergrowth). If you are walking in the country be careful in long bracken
(tuck your trousers into your socks!)

I'm sure I read that advice somewhere, but I might just have been dreaming
(and it might all be nonsense anyway).


You were not dreaming


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- I just hope we don't have too many at
Norwich!!!


Norwich, UK? As I recall parts of East Anglia are among the UK hotpots
for Lyme Disease, but I imagine you should be safe enough in the city
of Norwich.

Here's the (not too encouraging) distribution map:

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol6no4/smithG.htm

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I
- I just hope we don't have too many at
Norwich!!!


Norwich, UK? As I recall parts of East Anglia are among the UK hotpots
for Lyme Disease, but I imagine you should be safe enough in the city
of Norwich.

Here's the (not too encouraging) distribution map:

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol6no4/smithG.htm

Just realised that that map is old - in Lyme disease terms - so the
reality might be much worse.

As a guide to estimating the prevalence of deer ticks and Lyme disease,
I wonder whether this wonderful bit of research could be translated into
UK conditions?

From the New York Times:

A map showing results from the last presidential election is "remarkably
similar" to a map of the distribution of cases of Lyme disease, a brief
article in the current Lancet medical journal points out.

The 19 "blue states" - those won by Senator John Kerry - account for 95
percent of the cases of Lyme disease reported in 2002, they wrote. The
disease, caused by bacteria that are carried by deer ticks, is
concentrated in the Northeast and Midwest.

An accompanying letter, from Dr. Robert B. Nadelman and Dr. Gary P.
Wormser, epidemiologists at the New York Medical College at Valhalla,
also pointed out that many of the cases reported in "red states" were
probably something else. The illness there is usually preceded by the
bite of the Lone Star tick, which cannot transmit the bacteria that
causes Lyme disease, although it produces a rash that is identical. The
two doctors suggest naming the disorder Stari, for southern
tick-associated rash illness.

Lyme disease is spreading faster than Stari, Dr. Nadelman said. On the
other hand, the last three Democrats elected to the White House were
from states where Stari is dominant, while three of the four most recent
losing candidates came from Lyme disease states.

Dr. Nadelman concluded, "We do not believe, however, that tick-borne
diseases are likely to be a major factor in the 2008 presidential
election."


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I was bitten by a tick in Texas a couple of years ago, it was very
nasty, I just thought I had something irritating on my scalp, then the
red marks tracked down my face. I kept on picking on what I thought was
a scab - it wasn't, it was the tick which had burrowed in - finally a
doctor colleague had a look and knew what it was immediately and I was
treated. However, I do still have a small indentation where it lodged -
it still gives me the creeps and I am fanatical about checking my body
after I have been abroad - I just hope we don't have too many at
Norwich!!!


You'll find plenty on Mousehold Heath.

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I just hope we don't have too many at
Norwich!!!


Norwich, UK? As I recall parts of East Anglia are among the UK hotpots
for Lyme Disease, but I imagine you should be safe enough in the city of
Norwich.


I've seen roe deer within a quarter of a mile of the centre of Norwich.
Thetford Forest is well stoked with Lyme disese.

ISTR that the ticks do not survive in dry conditions, so best advice is
to avoid the sort of damp areas where they do survive (typically damp
undergrowth). If you are walking in the country be careful in long
bracken (tuck your trousers into your socks!)


Sounds about right.

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Norwich.

I've seen roe deer within a quarter of a mile of the centre of Norwich.
Thetford Forest is well stoked with Lyme disese.


I've seen them in my back garden.

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You'll find plenty on Mousehold Heath.

Where do you live in Norwich? are you at UEA?
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