Now what does that tell you?

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Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
"Sacha" wrote in message
.uk...
Today, I have received around 80 pieces of junk mail.

Today, I have received around 80 pieces of junk mail. My junk mail filter
catches most of it very well but I still have to check it, of course. Most
days, the number is something between 30 and 50. Is this because
Gardenbanter is reproducing posts from urg or is there some other
explanation? I'd be grateful to know of the experiences and opinions of
others on urg.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

"Sacha" wrote in message
.uk...
Today, I have received around 80 pieces of junk mail. My junk mail filter
catches most of it very well but I still have to check it, of course.
Most
days, the number is something between 30 and 50. Is this because
Gardenbanter is reproducing posts from urg or is there some other
explanation? I'd be grateful to know of the experiences and opinions of
others on urg.

I always send the rubbish to abuse@'isp' with a note saying 'this is an
abuse of the net, please see that the perpetrator has their net access
immediately terminated'.

I have no idea whether the people do have their net access terminated, but I
do not get all that much junk mail now.

Alan

in

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

"Sacha" wrote in message
.uk...
Today, I have received around 80 pieces of junk mail. My junk mail filter
catches most of it very well but I still have to check it, of course.
Most
days, the number is something between 30 and 50. Is this because
Gardenbanter is reproducing posts from urg or is there some other
explanation? I'd be grateful to know of the experiences and opinions of
others on urg.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

No I do not think it's really anything to specifically do with GB.
Harvesting tools have become more efficient at stripping out the anti spam
bits from email addresses.
It's much more likely that a legitimate user of your email addy has passed
it on to someone else who has passed it on etc etc. I can assure you that
even the most (reputable ?)Companies do sell and cross swap lists. Banks,
Building Societies, Solicitors and your ISP.

I get much more spam than you. Usually people are offering me P enlargement.
I wouldn't mind too much but these emails are usually followed by offers of
Viagra which I assume is needed to make the new thingy function. :-)

Rupert wrote:
"Sacha" wrote in message
.uk...
Today, I have received around 80 pieces of junk mail. My junk
mail
filter catches most of it very well but I still have to check it,
of
course. Most
days, the number is something between 30 and 50. Is this because
Gardenbanter is reproducing posts from urg or is there some other
explanation? I'd be grateful to know of the experiences and
opinions of others on urg.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

No I do not think it's really anything to specifically do with GB.
Harvesting tools have become more efficient at stripping out the
anti
spam bits from email addresses.
It's much more likely that a legitimate user of your email addy has
passed it on to someone else who has passed it on etc etc. I can
assure you that even the most (reputable ?)Companies do sell and
cross swap lists. Banks, Building Societies, Solicitors and your
ISP.

I get much more spam than you. Usually people are offering me P
enlargement. I wouldn't mind too much but these emails are usually
followed by offers of Viagra which I assume is needed to make the
new
thingy function. :-)

I get surprisingly little spam: Y mail filters out all but, at the
most, three or four a day, while Hditto seems to send absolutely all
spam to the junk folder (Only family know that address; but the uk Y
one has been advertised either in clear or in mildly munged form on
Usenet for years. My Australian y seems wholly immune.). I don't
think I've ever received a single spam via my am* o* li** address. A
thing to watch with Hot is that it may junk a legit message, so I
have to remember to check the junk folder from time to time in case
there's one from a daughter at work.

The things to do before anything else seem to be a) mung the address
you give for Usenet, with an explanation in the sig if necessary, and
b) tell all friends and family, on pain of a lingering death or no
Christmas present, not to send any of those usually feeble jokes
unless all the recipients' addresses are in the bcc window. As my
ex-wife once wisely said, "Friends of friends are a worry; friends of
friends of friends are on the run from the police".

--
Mike.

Mike Lyle wrote:
Rupert wrote:
"Sacha" wrote in message
.uk...
Today, I have received around 80 pieces of junk mail. My junk mail
filter catches most of it very well but I still have to check it, of
course. Most
days, the number is something between 30 and 50. Is this because
Gardenbanter is reproducing posts from urg or is there some other
explanation? I'd be grateful to know of the experiences and
opinions of others on urg.

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

No I do not think it's really anything to specifically do with GB.
Harvesting tools have become more efficient at stripping out the anti
spam bits from email addresses.
It's much more likely that a legitimate user of your email addy has
passed it on to someone else who has passed it on etc etc. I can
assure you that even the most (reputable ?)Companies do sell and
cross swap lists. Banks, Building Societies, Solicitors and your ISP.

I get much more spam than you. Usually people are offering me P
enlargement. I wouldn't mind too much but these emails are usually
followed by offers of Viagra which I assume is needed to make the new
thingy function. :-)

I get surprisingly little spam: Y mail filters out all but, at the
most, three or four a day, while Hditto seems to send absolutely all
spam to the junk folder (Only family know that address; but the uk Y
one has been advertised either in clear or in mildly munged form on
Usenet for years. My Australian y seems wholly immune.). I don't
think I've ever received a single spam via my am* o* li** address. A
thing to watch with Hot is that it may junk a legit message, so I
have to remember to check the junk folder from time to time in case
there's one from a daughter at work.

The things to do before anything else seem to be a) mung the address
you give for Usenet, with an explanation in the sig if necessary, and
b) tell all friends and family, on pain of a lingering death or no
Christmas present, not to send any of those usually feeble jokes
unless all the recipients' addresses are in the bcc window. As my
ex-wife once wisely said, "Friends of friends are a worry; friends of
friends of friends are on the run from the police".

Is there any particular reason why half of this post is in some form of
code?...spambots don't harvest from the body of the mail, so you can
actually type 'yahoo, hotmail and americaonline' without fear, in any case,
it's the bit before the ISP that is important, and even then it's only
harvested from the headers.

To the OP, as you are easily contactable via your website I'd use a
completely fictitious address for usenet, you're welcome to use mine,
seeing as it's also in use (or has been in the
past) by about thirty others, or the generic

Phil L wrote:
Mike Lyle wrote:
[...]
I get surprisingly little spam: Y mail filters out all but, at the
most, three or four a day, while Hditto seems to send absolutely
all
spam to the junk folder (Only family know that address; but the uk
Y
one has been advertised either in clear or in mildly munged form
on
Usenet for years. My Australian y seems wholly immune.). I don't
think I've ever received a single spam via my am* o* li** address.
A
thing to watch with Hot is that it may junk a legit message, so I
have to remember to check the junk folder from time to time in
case
there's one from a daughter at work.

The things to do before anything else seem to be a) mung the
address
you give for Usenet, with an explanation in the sig if necessary,
and
b) tell all friends and family, on pain of a lingering death or no
Christmas present, not to send any of those usually feeble jokes
unless all the recipients' addresses are in the bcc window. As my
ex-wife once wisely said, "Friends of friends are a worry; friends
of
friends of friends are on the run from the police".

Is there any particular reason why half of this post is in some
form
of code?...spambots don't harvest from the body of the mail, so you
can actually type 'yahoo, hotmail and americaonline' without fear,
in
any case, it's the bit before the ISP that is important, and even
then it's only harvested from the headers.

Well, hardly half, and it was scarcely Enigma. I was underlining a
point.

--
Mike.

"Phil L" wrote:

spambots don't harvest from the body of the mail,

Spambots have indeed been proven to harvest from message bodies, and the
level of spammer desperation is clearly rising as Darwin thins the herd of
the easy marks.


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

On 18/12/05 19:58, in article ,
"Alan Holmes" wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
.uk...
Today, I have received around 80 pieces of junk mail. My junk mail filter
catches most of it very well but I still have to check it, of course.
Most
days, the number is something between 30 and 50. Is this because
Gardenbanter is reproducing posts from urg or is there some other
explanation? I'd be grateful to know of the experiences and opinions of
others on urg.

I always send the rubbish to abuse@'isp' with a note saying 'this is an
abuse of the net, please see that the perpetrator has their net access
immediately terminated'.

I have no idea whether the people do have their net access terminated, but I
do not get all that much junk mail now.


Thanks, Alan. But does this work for people trying to sell you Viagra,
investments, tranquilisers etc?! ;-) Sometimes, I think my great mistake
is in allowing an American boyfriend to spell my nickname 'Sacha' as opposed
to 'Sasha'. If it was the latter I might not get the Viagra stuff at least!

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

On 18/12/05 21:09, in article ,
"Janet Baraclough" wrote:

The message k
from Sacha contains these words:

Today, I have received around 80 pieces of junk mail. My junk mail filter
catches most of it very well but I still have to check it, of course. Most
days, the number is something between 30 and 50. Is this because
Gardenbanter is reproducing posts from urg or is there some other
explanation?

Your address isn't appearing there in public view, because GB strips
off all usenet attributions, so the OP's email addie isn't visible, and
leaves just the posting name. This exchange of posts would just appear
as "Sacha, usenet (Today I...etc)" and a reply from "Janet Baraclough,
usenet ". Course, there's no guarantee what GB does with all the
prunings :-(

Could the upturn be the result of xmas shopping by computer?

For Viagra and Cialis - and cheap, fake watches and dodgy shares? I hope
not or this will certainly be a Christmas to remember!

--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)

Mike Lyle wrote:
Phil L wrote:
Mike Lyle wrote:
[...]
I get surprisingly little spam: Y mail filters out all but, at the
most, three or four a day, while Hditto seems to send absolutely all
spam to the junk folder (Only family know that address; but the uk Y
one has been advertised either in clear or in mildly munged form on
Usenet for years. My Australian y seems wholly immune.). I don't
think I've ever received a single spam via my am* o* li** address. A
thing to watch with Hot is that it may junk a legit message, so I
have to remember to check the junk folder from time to time in case
there's one from a daughter at work.

The things to do before anything else seem to be a) mung the address
you give for Usenet, with an explanation in the sig if necessary,
and b) tell all friends and family, on pain of a lingering death or
no Christmas present, not to send any of those usually feeble jokes
unless all the recipients' addresses are in the bcc window. As my
ex-wife once wisely said, "Friends of friends are a worry; friends
of friends of friends are on the run from the police".

Is there any particular reason why half of this post is in some form
of code?...spambots don't harvest from the body of the mail, so you
can actually type 'yahoo, hotmail and americaonline' without fear, in
any case, it's the bit before the ISP that is important, and even
then it's only harvested from the headers.

Well, hardly half, and it was scarcely Enigma. I was underlining a
point.

My post was half in jest although it didn't come out as such :-p

Sacha wrote:
Today, I have received around 80 pieces of junk mail. My junk mail
filter catches most of it very well but I still have to check it, of
course. Most days, the number is something between 30 and 50. Is
this because Gardenbanter is reproducing posts from urg or is there
some other explanation? I'd be grateful to know of the experiences
and opinions of others on urg.

I meant to post this earlier but forgot, this is for anyone who uses POP3 to
get their emails, regardless of which mail programme you use.

http://www.mailwasher.net/

Is a good (free) programme, the pro version also works with hotmail, yahoo
etc, but the free version works with POP3 only.

Basically it is like looking directly at the server and looking at your
emails *before* you download them, it has many filters, based on keywords
which you stipulate (viagra, XXX, porn etc) and you can block entire ISP's,
which I do with many of the far eastern spammers, .jp (Japan) .kr (Korea)
etc, it has a freinds list which overrides any filters you have in place so
whatever they send will always get through.
Even if you get a hundred spam messages every day, you can delete them all
with one click and you haven't downloaded them to your inbox, you only see
the subject title and who they are from, so for example if you would
normally open outlook express and wait while all the crud comes in, you
simply open Mailwasher, it checks and shows you what's there, if there's 20
mails and only 1 of them is genuine you just click 'select all' at the top,
take the tick from your friend's mssage, then click 'process' wherupon your
chosen email programme (OE, Thunderbird etc) opens up and contains one email
and it's from someone you know! - everything else has been flushed and you
don't risk downloading any dodgy attachments etc.

On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 23:47:43 GMT, Phil L wrote:

http://www.mailwasher.net/

Yep - brilliant !

Wouldn't be without it. The Pro version is well worth paying for.
--
Regards,

Hugh Jampton

"Janet Baraclough" wrote in message
...
The message k
from Sacha contains these words:

Today, I have received around 80 pieces of junk mail. My junk mail
filter
catches most of it very well but I still have to check it, of course.
Most
days, the number is something between 30 and 50. Is this because
Gardenbanter is reproducing posts from urg or is there some other
explanation?

Your address isn't appearing there in public view, because GB strips
off all usenet attributions, so the OP's email addie isn't visible, and
leaves just the posting name. This exchange of posts would just appear
as "Sacha, usenet (Today I...etc)" and a reply from "Janet Baraclough,
usenet ". Course, there's no guarantee what GB does with all the
prunings :-(

It does appear if you do a 'Reply'!

Alan


Could the upturn be the result of xmas shopping by computer?

Janet

"Sacha" wrote in message
.uk...
On 18/12/05 19:58, in article ,
"Alan Holmes" wrote:


"Sacha" wrote in message
.uk...
Today, I have received around 80 pieces of junk mail. My junk mail
filter
catches most of it very well but I still have to check it, of course.
Most
days, the number is something between 30 and 50. Is this because
Gardenbanter is reproducing posts from urg or is there some other
explanation? I'd be grateful to know of the experiences and opinions of
others on urg.

I always send the rubbish to abuse@'isp' with a note saying 'this is an
abuse of the net, please see that the perpetrator has their net access
immediately terminated'.

I have no idea whether the people do have their net access terminated,
but I
do not get all that much junk mail now.


Thanks, Alan. But does this work for people trying to sell you Viagra,
investments, tranquilisers etc?! ;-) Sometimes, I think my great
mistake
is in allowing an American boyfriend to spell my nickname 'Sacha' as
opposed
to 'Sasha'. If it was the latter I might not get the Viagra stuff at
least!

If you are getting lots of spam for specific items, it is possible to block
the headers.

Alan


--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon
(remove the weeds to email me)