I live in a block of 4 terraced houses with the same path along the backs of
all the houses.

The new neighbours turned up and said they did not like my having acces
through their garden and that it would have to stop (not that I used it
much) The Housing association are not interested. I am an owner who bought
the house with the access while he is a whinging tenant who thinks he can
lay down the law.

On the other side Gavin is a great bloke though no gardener. The last house
in the block has two teenage girls as tenants they strim the garden once a
year. It is full of old washing machines fridges etc there is a continuous
stream of water from the overflow, three years now and the HA does nothing.
Bordering the bottom of of my garden is a family of benefit scroungers with
the most unruly children and a rubbish tip for a garden. Cest la vie!

Steve R

Natalie scribbled:

Our neighbours on one side are the end of terrace and have a gate to
the alley. We in turn have a gate between our gardens, so we are
able to have access to our garden without going through our house.
Extremely useful especially when you are doing building work to the
back of your house!A

The gate enables us to keep an eye on each others gardens and water
when necessary. They have a water meter, but we don't. So when
their rainwater butt is empty I allow them to use our outside tap.

We also share plants...especially the climbers between our gardens.
There is a friendly competition each year as to how many flowers my
Passiflora has on each side of the fence. Also their Clematis
Armandi intertwines very nicely with my climbers...saved me having to
plant one myself ;-)

They also have an allotment and we enjoy some of their surplus
produce...and of course, there is the reciprocal feeding of each
others cats!

Natalie

Mike wrote in message
...

I find Neighbours from hell to be few and far between.

Or am I just lucky? :-))

Mike

We have nice neighbours on one side and a fire station on the other. The
firemen are retained, so they are not actually on the premises, they just
come if there is a fire. They help me cut my 10ft x 130ft hawthorn hedge
twice a year and on Monday evenings, they put on their uniforms and practise
with their hoses. I could sell tickets for the view from my upstairs back
window... ;-) At the bottom is some allotments. They are no trouble except
sometimes they use their rotivator on a Sunday afternoon while we're trying
to eat lunch outside. A nice friendly word usually stops them though.
Reading some of the stories here, I realise I'm very lucky.

"Angie Watts" wrote in message news:b6n904

Reading some of the stories here, I realise I'm very lucky.

I am very pleased for you)

O

I have a lovely gardening neighbour on one side. We exchange chat,
borrow tools & I (who have a much bigger garden than his) act as a
foster home for all the plants he buys which then outgrow his space.

On the other side is an electricity sub-station. Currently a bit of a
problem, as part of the dividing wall needs urgent repointing, & it's
not clear whether it's theirs or mine. What *is* clear to me at least is
that it's the trees planted on their side within about a foot of this
wall that are causing the problem. Turns out the land's owned by Enfield
Council, so I foresee *many* phone calls till this one's sorted out.
--
Judy
http://members.lycos.co.uk/bluelotusrising/index.html
http://www.rigbys.demon.co.uk

Mike writes
DON'T PHONE

DON'T PHONE

Telephone calls can be lost. WRITE.

Good points. Thanks. I don't have the deeds available ... lodged with
the building society for the next xxx years, else I'd check ownership
myself. There's no danger to property, but now I want to bring that part
of the garden into use, it does need to be made safe for me & the
vegetables, so I guess I'd best get typing at Enfield council ...
--
Judy
http://members.lycos.co.uk/bluelotusrising/index.html
http://www.rigbys.demon.co.uk

Write to the council .....dont phone and mention the Westminster Councils
"Delaware Mansions Case " ........details on www.Hedgeline.org
............that should make the council sit up and take notice


"Judy Rigby" wrote in message
...

I have a lovely gardening neighbour on one side. We exchange chat,
borrow tools & I (who have a much bigger garden than his) act as a
foster home for all the plants he buys which then outgrow his space.

On the other side is an electricity sub-station. Currently a bit of a
problem, as part of the dividing wall needs urgent repointing, & it's
not clear whether it's theirs or mine. What *is* clear to me at least is
that it's the trees planted on their side within about a foot of this
wall that are causing the problem. Turns out the land's owned by Enfield
Council, so I foresee *many* phone calls till this one's sorted out.
--
Judy
http://members.lycos.co.uk/bluelotusrising/index.html
http://www.rigbys.demon.co.uk

On Sat, 05 Apr 2003 20:16:28 +0100, Judy Rigby wrote:

On the other side is an electricity sub-station. Currently a bit of a
problem, as part of the dividing wall needs urgent repointing, & it's
not clear whether it's theirs or mine. What *is* clear to me at least is

Judy,

You may have alrady tried this, but on the front gate of the access to the
substation should be a big notice saying "Danger" and it should also give
you a number to ring if there is any problems. Ring this number, and the
people who answer should be able to put you in touch with the right people
to deal with the wall. I'd take a guess at the wall belonging to the
electricity people if it goes round all four sides of the substation, if
it doesn't, it may be your wall.

Sarah

In article , Judy Rigby judy.rigby
@rigbys.demon.co.uk writes

Good points. Thanks. I don't have the deeds available ... lodged with
the building society for the next xxx years,

A) It only seems like 'xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx years' :-) It is quite amazing
just how quickly those years zapp by. Believe me it is a wonderful
feeling when it is all over :-))

B) I 'believe' that you can make an enquiry on your deeds from the
building society for a nominal sum. But if you go into the Council with
all guns firing that it is 'THEIR' responsibility, it is up to them to
prove otherwise :-))

Mike

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A) It only seems like 'xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx years' :-) It is quite amazing
just how quickly those years zapp by. Believe me it is a wonderful
feeling when it is all over :-))

We had a council mortgage for 30 years. When it was up we went to the Civic
Hall and expected the deeds to be handed over with fanfares, bells and
whistles. Instead the gormless girls looked vaguely at us and said, "Mr
Fisher?" and handed over the large envelope with no ceremony at all.

Never mind, we went to the pub where a son worked and had a pint, he gave us
it because he might inherit a fifth of the estate one day.

Then we looked at the deeds - they were absolutely fascinating. Although our
house was built on 'virgin land' it was land which had been prt of the
estate of a family at 'The Big House' and was fascinating - it wasn't just
the story of a house or even the plot but of a family with all its quarrels,
divisions and legal problems.

We really don't know how the other half lives ...

Since then we've discovered archaeological finds from that estate but that's
another story.

Mary


ng society for a nominal sum. But if you go into the Council with
all guns firing that it is 'THEIR' responsibility, it is up to them to
prove otherwise :-))

Mike

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In article , Mary Fisher
writes


We had a council mortgage for 30 years. When it was up we went to the Civic
Hall and expected the deeds to be handed over with fanfares, bells and
whistles. Instead the gormless girls looked vaguely at us and said, "Mr
Fisher?" and handed over the large envelope with no ceremony at all.

'All in a day's work for me. Next please.' :-((

We had to start all over again in 1986 due to a Business Crash....
thanks to Maggie :-((

I actually signed on the dole on my 50th birthday!! We just had enough
for the Deposit and worked hard :-))


Never mind, we went to the pub where a son worked and had a pint, he gave us
it because he might inherit a fifth of the estate one day.

Only a pint? Bit slow isn't he ;-}

My son in law doesn't intend leaving any to anyone. He has just up dated
his Rolls to one only 4 years old :-))

Then we looked at the deeds - they were absolutely fascinating. Although our
house was built on 'virgin land' it was land which had been prt of the
estate of a family at 'The Big House' and was fascinating - it wasn't just
the story of a house or even the plot but of a family with all its quarrels,
divisions and legal problems.

We have scoured ours and cannot work out when it was built. Like lots of
houses, the house was built on what was Church Land.

The lady next door but one was born in he house she is in and he is 88 I
think it is, so they must be over 100 years old.

We really don't know how the other half lives ...

Since then we've discovered archaeological finds from that estate but that's
another story.

All we seem to find in our garden is marbles!! Heaven above knows how
many, but there were 6 children here before :-(


Now just 'Darby and Joan',

well

Mike and Joan really ;-}

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Sarah Dale writes

Judy,

You may have alrady tried this, but on the front gate of the access to the
substation should be a big notice saying "Danger" and it should also give
you a number to ring if there is any problems. Ring this number, and the
people who answer should be able to put you in touch with the right people
to deal with the wall. I'd take a guess at the wall belonging to the
electricity people if it goes round all four sides of the substation, if
it doesn't, it may be your wall.

Hi

Oh yes, I tried that number first. Unobtainable. I rang the council to
see if they could tell me who the emergency number was, but then it
transpired that it was council land, so the wall is either my or the
council's responsibility. I want to now whose before I pay anything ...

--
Judy
http://members.lycos.co.uk/bluelotusrising/index.html
http://www.rigbys.demon.co.uk

On Sat, 5 Apr 2003 23:10:58 +0100, Judy Rigby
wrote:

Mike writes
DON'T PHONE

DON'T PHONE

Telephone calls can be lost. WRITE.

Good points. Thanks. I don't have the deeds available ... lodged with
the building society for the next xxx years, else I'd check ownership
myself. There's no danger to property, but now I want to bring that part
of the garden into use, it does need to be made safe for me & the
vegetables, so I guess I'd best get typing at Enfield council ...

....you can arrange to view your deeds from the BS. They may charge a
small fee though as everyone wants to take more and more from us even
though they have already charged us in the first place!

Mark

In article , MG
writes

...you can arrange to view your deeds from the BS. They may charge a
small fee though as everyone wants to take more and more from us even
though they have already charged us in the first place!


Thanks very much

It's all getting more Byzantine by the second. While the land's council
owned, maintenance of it is the responsibility of the tenants. Who are
the electricity board and the water board, both of whom have stations on
it, and who say there are "politics" between them as to who'll DO
anything. I've lodged formal customer complaints with both ... & water
have cracked first with a promise to get their gardening contractors in
to remove the tree roots that caused the damage. With any luck they'll
have the wall down in the process, which'll rather settle who is to put
it right again, I feel ...

I inspected things from the other side when 2 water engineers turned up,
& it's *so* obvious how the damage was caused that were it not for the
risk of speaking too soon, I might say I don't anticipate any problems
other than the usual delays in sorting this out ...

--
Judy
http://members.lycos.co.uk/bluelotusrising/index.html
http://www.rigbys.demon.co.uk

On Mon, 14 Apr 2003 21:17:31 +0100, Judy Rigby wrote:

It's all getting more Byzantine by the second. While the land's council
owned, maintenance of it is the responsibility of the tenants. Who are
the electricity board and the water board, both of whom have stations on
it, and who say there are "politics" between them

Judy,

Pleased to hear you are making progress (of sorts) in getting your
neighbour's wall sorted out. If things get dirty - threaten them with
OfWat and OfGem!

Sarah

Sarah Dale writes
Judy,

Pleased to hear you are making progress (of sorts) in getting your
neighbour's wall sorted out. If things get dirty - threaten them with
OfWat and OfGem!

Sarah


Cheers !

Thought I might have a word with the local papers after easter if no
observable progress by then. This is my 5th week on the case & I'd be
quite happy to hand the reins to a journalist. I'm sure they'd find
something to write at this stage, even if it is less dramatic than:

"Woman (47) Killed By Lethal Garden Wall In Freak Rhubarb Harvesting
Tragedy Last Words Were 'I told 'em, buggrit !' "
--
Judy
http://members.lycos.co.uk/bluelotusrising/index.html
http://www.rigbys.demon.co.uk