In article , Mike
writes

Most people don't know about newsgroups and some URGlers try to enhance
their
knowledge by pointing out what's what.


Quite.

In a very authoritarian and superior way.

My whole point.

Mike


For goodness sake - give it a rest - I thought you had gone away and I
very much enjoyed not having to weed out your nasty replies - if you do
it again, you will be plonked.
--
Judith Lea

"JennyC" wrote after

"H Ryder"wrote in reply to Mike
If they dare to appear on this hallowed newsgroup via gardenbanter,
they
are
the lowest of the low.

Why?

I originally thought that it was a group run by primary school children
somewhere because of the lack of punctuation. I later worked out that it
was
website which apparently strips out the punctuation when it posts - is
this
true? Anyway I think that the fact that the posts appear in this way
leads
people to subconsciously think that the OP is stupid and/or about 7 years
old. Just my theory anyway
Hayley
(gardening on well drained, alkaline clay in Somerset)

Probably the younger generation who have grown up with SMS speak :~)

I have friends who send emails with out punctuation, paragraphs or any
form of
spelling check :~(

We have a Canadian friend that sends long letters like that, makes for an
interesting read!!! :-)

--
Regards
Bob
"Never get so busy making a living
that you forget to make a life"

- if you do
it again, you will be plonked.
--
Judith Lea


Why wait any longer? Actions speak louder than words. I don't expect to see
you respond to any more of my posts. Shut the door quietly as you leave.

Cheerio

Mike

Judith Lea wrote:
In article , Mike
writes

Most people don't know about newsgroups and some URGlers try to enhance
their
knowledge by pointing out what's what.


Quite.

In a very authoritarian and superior way.

My whole point.

Mike


For goodness sake - give it a rest - I thought you had gone away and I
very much enjoyed not having to weed out your nasty replies - if you do
it again, you will be plonked.
--
The lowest of the low are trolls and the person who started this thread
has been trolling here for years. He most certainly is not a
legitimate member of this group and I cannot imagine why people
continue to answer him. In most cases, I think it's because they have
better manners than he has and treat all who post with courtesy and
seriousness.
If ever a thread was designed to take a swipe at those who try to
explain easier procedures to others, this is it. He starts threads
only to gain attention and he has been sniping in his usual fashion
ever since he returned to troll again. IMO, this would be a much
better place if he removed himself or if people did not encourage him
by answering his inanities seriously. He admits to no knowledge of
gardening and is a constant stirrer of trouble. It has taken no time
at all for his old tricks to re-surface - mainly aimed at Janet B or me
- but he was ignored to start with. Hence the starting of several new
threads in an increasingly sad and desperate need for attention. IOW,
plonk the plonker.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon

The message
from Chris Bacon contains these words:

I have looked at that site, even subscribed to
see what it's like - seems fine, and there is an "abc fo
newcomers to uk.rec.gardening. Please read before posting
to this group" which gives a link to the Charter, various
FAQs, and gives useful and accurate tips "to help you if
you are not familiar with newsgroups".

That message originates in urg, not gardenbanter. It's been posted
here every week since years before gardenbanter existed, and widely
ignored in both locations.


Janet

Don't hold back Sacha, how many times have you been told. Say it as it is
for goodness sake. Put your school marm hat on and speak out

Mike

In article , Mike
writes

- if you do
it again, you will be plonked.
--
Judith Lea


Why wait any longer? Actions speak louder than words. I don't expect to see
you respond to any more of my posts. Shut the door quietly as you leave.

You can be sure of that PLONK

--
Judith Lea

In article .com,
Sacha writes

He admits to no knowledge of
gardening and is a constant stirrer of trouble. It has taken no time
at all for his old tricks to re-surface - mainly aimed at Janet B or me
- but he was ignored to start with. Hence the starting of several new
threads in an increasingly sad and desperate need for attention. IOW,
plonk the plonker.

Duly plonked - I will not see his posts any more

--
Judith Lea

Judith Lea wrote:
In article .com,
Sacha writes

He admits to no knowledge of
gardening and is a constant stirrer of trouble. It has taken no time
at all for his old tricks to re-surface - mainly aimed at Janet B or me
- but he was ignored to start with. Hence the starting of several new
threads in an increasingly sad and desperate need for attention. IOW,
plonk the plonker.

Duly plonked - I will not see his posts any more

Shrewd move. His behaviour has him in more killfiles than anyone else
here.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon

Chris Bacon wrote:
snip
I have looked at that site, even subscribed to
see what it's like - seems fine, and there is an "abc fo
newcomers to uk.rec.gardening. Please read before posting
to this group" which gives a link to the Charter, various
FAQs, and gives useful and accurate tips "to help you if
you are not familiar with newsgroups". I still prefer
posting directly, but - horses for courses.

The abc has nothing to do with Garden Banter. It comes from urg and
has done for ages. Garden Banter merely takes posts to urg and puts
them on their site. Those posters who request that their posts are not
archived may have a copyright issue with Garden Banter. The problem
with Garden Banter is not only the nerve of them in doing that but the
fact that GB msgs. are not always seen on this newsgroup, so the
messages go unanswered and the originals are not seen by some urglers
at all. I'm afraid that, as is all too common, Mike Crowe is being
deliberately misleading, trouble-making and disingenuous in asking this
question. You will now probably see a series of posts from him
excoriating some urglers and/or telling the group of the plants he saw
on his cruise and either 'recommending' them or asking questions about
them! Anything for the limelight.
Urglers - of which he is not one - encourage GB people to post direct
to urg so that their posts are seen by all and not missed by many.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon

Shrewd move. His behaviour has him in more killfiles than anyone else
here.
--

How do you know? Do you have proof of how many people kill file others?

sad sad sad sasha :-((

--
-------------------------------------------------------------------

"Sacha" wrote in message
oups.com...

Chris Bacon wrote:
snip
I have looked at that site, even subscribed to
see what it's like - seems fine, and there is an "abc fo
newcomers to uk.rec.gardening. Please read before posting
to this group" which gives a link to the Charter, various
FAQs, and gives useful and accurate tips "to help you if
you are not familiar with newsgroups". I still prefer
posting directly, but - horses for courses.

The abc has nothing to do with Garden Banter. It comes from urg and
has done for ages. Garden Banter merely takes posts to urg and puts
them on their site. Those posters who request that their posts are not
archived may have a copyright issue with Garden Banter. The problem
with Garden Banter is not only the nerve of them in doing that but the
fact that GB msgs. are not always seen on this newsgroup, so the
messages go unanswered and the originals are not seen by some urglers
at all. I'm afraid that, as is all too common, Mike Crowe is being
deliberately misleading, trouble-making and disingenuous in asking this
question. You will now probably see a series of posts from him
excoriating some urglers and/or telling the group of the plants he saw
on his cruise and either 'recommending' them or asking questions about
them! Anything for the limelight.
Urglers - of which he is not one - encourage GB people to post direct
to urg so that their posts are seen by all and not missed by many.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon

"Phil L" wrote ...

I don't see why people should be able to profit from advice I or anyone
else gives freely on this newsgroup.
gardenbanter, diybanter and all the other 'banters' are set up for less
than a tenner and rake in profits from advertisers, they are parasitic
inthat they don't put anything in but leech off this group and
others....I've nothing against the people who use GB per se, but I tend
not to respond to their queries.
Another point to note is that people find GB, ask one or two questions
then never return, rarely do you find that GB users 'give back' to the
group.

Actually Phil I have been seriously thinking about doing the same.
A couple of recent posts via GB got me thinking that way, still not sure if
they were "wind ups" or not.

--
Regards
Bob
"Never get so busy making a living
that you forget to make a life"

Janet Baraclough wrote:
snip
Chris Bacon has just alerted me to the fact that despite
gardenbanters promise to conceal posters' email addresses (from their
post headers), in the case of usenet posters it doesn't honour the
promise.
IOW, those here using real email contact addresses are having them
permanently recorded on a commercial website; a valuable commercial
resource to the website and its advertisers.

One way to avoid that is to auto-mark your posts "X-no-archive-yes",
which prevents them appearing at all on gardenbanter. They will appear
on google-groups for seven days only (enabling those who use it as a
usenet access to read and reply).

I had that set up when I had a PC but am unsure as to how to do it with
a Mac. Anyone who knows will be warmly thanked by me if they can
explain it in words of one syllable!
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.co.uk
South Devon

On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:28:06 +0100, Sacha wrote
(in article . com):


Janet Baraclough wrote:
snip

snip

One way to avoid that is to auto-mark your posts "X-no-archive-yes",
which prevents them appearing at all on gardenbanter. They will appear
on google-groups for seven days only (enabling those who use it as a
usenet access to read and reply).

I had that set up when I had a PC but am unsure as to how to do it with
a Mac. Anyone who knows will be warmly thanked by me if they can
explain it in words of one syllable!

It isn't particularly the Mac versus the PC, it is something you need to set
in your newsreader. Since we use different ones I can't help, but I suggest
you have a rummage in the Preferences or look at the various tools in the
menus. Failing that g there is probably a (sssshhh) web forum for your
particular software, or you could ask on comp.sys.mac.apps - they are pretty
helpful there.


--
Sally in Shropshire, UK
bed and breakfast near Ludlow: http://www.stonybrook-ludlow.co.uk
Burne-Jones/William Morris window in Shropshire church:
http://www.whitton-stmarys.org.uk