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Grow Your Own Veg - yesterday
"La Puce" wrote in message
oups.com... On 11 Feb, 16:29, "Keith \(Dorset\)" wrote: She looks exactly like the women who used to inhabit Greenham Common Peace camp in the 1980s. These wimmin happen to be my best friends ) Are you off your rocker like them as well? Mike -- .................................................. ......... Royal Naval Electrical Branch Association www.rnshipmates.co.uk www.nsrafa.com |
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Grow Your Own Veg - yesterday
On 11 Feb, 16:51, "'Mike'" wrote:
Are you off your rocker like them as well? We rock alright. |
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Grow Your Own Veg - yesterday
On 11 Feb, 17:08, Martin wrote:
Have you been standing too near the transmitter dishes at Menwith Hills and Fylingdales again? )) NO BUT I'D BE GRATEFUL IF SOMEONE WOULD ASK MY SON TO PUT THE MUSIC DOWN - I MEAN I DON'T MIND SYSTEMS OF THE DOWN, BUT I'M SURE IT'S GOING TO LEAD TO COMPLICATION ... with my hearing, eventually. That's better. |
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Grow Your Own Veg - yesterday
In message , shazzbat
writes "June Hughes" wrote in message ... In message ews.net, Sue writes Carol K is a brilliant gardening presenter, whether she's talking about veg, or planting perennials for a flower garden. She never claimed to be a beginner at growing vegetables - if people had been paying attention they'd have seen she'd had lots of experience 'growning her own' many years ago, but as J says, for the last two decades has concentrated on her nursery business, shows etc. I have seen a couple of the programmes and tend to agree with you. She doesn't talk down to you, which means people who have very little knowledge of gardening are more likely to listen to her. I agree also. There is a difficult area between dumbing down to the point where gardeners would be turning off, and "dumbing up" to the point where novices/first timers would be lost. As an attempt at treading the middle ground it's not so bad. She might comb her hair though :-)) I think she has a problem with her hair that is insurmountable (I have the same, so know what it is like -- June Hughes |
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Grow Your Own Veg - yesterday
"June Hughes" wrote in message ... In message , shazzbat writes "June Hughes" wrote in message ... In message ews.net, Sue writes [...] I agree also. There is a difficult area between dumbing down to the point where gardeners would be turning off, and "dumbing up" to the point where novices/first timers would be lost. As an attempt at treading the middle ground it's not so bad. She might comb her hair though :-)) I think she has a problem with her hair that is insurmountable (I have the same, so know what it is like Regardless of the content, the dishevelled look is refreshing in a media world where real women have so often been pressured to try and look like kids. -- Mike. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Grow Your Own Veg - yesterday
In message .com, La
Puce writes On 11 Feb, 17:08, Martin wrote: Have you been standing too near the transmitter dishes at Menwith Hills and Fylingdales again? )) NO BUT I'D BE GRATEFUL IF SOMEONE WOULD ASK MY SON TO PUT THE MUSIC DOWN - I MEAN I DON'T MIND SYSTEMS OF THE DOWN, BUT I'M SURE IT'S GOING TO LEAD TO COMPLICATION ... with my hearing, eventually. That's better. You'll get used to it. Just learn to play a musical instrument and you can drown out all sound from an amplifier! -- June Hughes |
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Grow Your Own Veg - yesterday
On 11 Feb, 17:41, Martin wrote:
On 11 Feb, 17:08, Martin wrote: My son has ringing in his ears and wonders why. I used to go to the Led Mill in Sheffield. A fine but loud establishment. I met John Peel there for the first time ... |
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Grow Your Own Veg - yesterday
On 11 Feb, 21:48, June Hughes wrote:
You'll get used to it. Just learn to play a musical instrument and you can drown out all sound from an amplifier! You're psychic!! I've played piano for 35 years ... but that's not loud enough. So I've bought an electric guitar for my son and I'm now using it and I love it. We've got this sound card now on our hifi system in which I can plug my guitar. Today my neighbours told me they thought that Patti Smith was playing a concert at Trafford Park because they heard 'I'm dancing barefoot'. I was so pleased )))) |
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Grow Your Own Veg - yesterday
"Keith (Dorset)" wrote talking point? Yes, Carol Klein is apparently a very experienced and knowledgeable plantswoman and grower. No doubt she and her family would be very pleasant neighbours. However, a good TV presenter she not - at least in this context. A good presenter needs far more than the ability to sound enthusiastic and 'not talk down to their audience'. They need to entertain, inform and maintain viewer interest. In this series, she fails in every respect. On the contrary. As a viewer with a little gardening knowledge but with lots to learn, especially as regards vegetable growing, I've found the series entertaining, informative and it's more tha held my interest throughout. So even if only using your terms of reference it's a success afaic! -- Sue |
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Grow Your Own Veg - yesterday
In article ews.net,
Sue writes but it isn't what this particular series has presumably been designed for. I think it *will* inspire a lot of back garden dabblers to have a go at planting things they can eat, simply because of her infectious enthusiasm, and is also likely to appeal to women. Not if they insist on putting it on BBC2 they won't. It's just not going to be seen by people who want to do a little light veg growing -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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Grow Your Own Veg - yesterday
In article , "Keith (Dorset)"
writes talking point? Yes, Carol Klein is apparently a very experienced and knowledgeable plantswoman and grower. No doubt she and her family would be very pleasant neighbours. However, a good TV presenter she not - at least in this context. A good presenter needs far more than the ability to sound enthusiastic and 'not talk down to their audience'. They need to entertain, inform and maintain viewer interest. In this series, she fails in every respect. The BBC have been unsuccessful with Grow Your Own Veg because they have attempted to appeal to too wide an audience. Of course this has, to an extent, compromised Carol in the way she can lead the programmes. Many other gardening presenters, I suspect, would not have taken it on. Keith Is anyone else old enough to remember the great Geoffrey Smith and his "Mr smith's vegetable garden"? He had a very "down to your level" friendly approach but showed an immense amount of information and technique and clearly loved all things botanical ! -- Janet Tweedy Dalmatian Telegraph http://www.lancedal.demon.co.uk |
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Grow Your Own Veg - yesterday
In article , Janet Tweedy
wrote: In article , "Keith (Dorset)" writes talking point? Yes, Carol Klein is apparently a very experienced and knowledgeable plantswoman and grower. No doubt she and her family would be very pleasant neighbours. However, a good TV presenter she not - at least in this context. A good presenter needs far more than the ability to sound enthusiastic and 'not talk down to their audience'. They need to entertain, inform and maintain viewer interest. In this series, she fails in every respect. The BBC have been unsuccessful with Grow Your Own Veg because they have attempted to appeal to too wide an audience. Of course this has, to an extent, compromised Carol in the way she can lead the programmes. Many other gardening presenters, I suspect, would not have taken it on. Keith Is anyone else old enough to remember the great Geoffrey Smith and his "Mr smith's vegetable garden"? He had a very "down to your level" friendly approach but showed an immense amount of information and technique and clearly loved all things botanical ! Not that old! You're talking early 80s. When Gardeners' World presenters had to talk to camera for up to 15 minutes in one continuous take. |
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Grow Your Own Veg - yesterday
"Keith (Dorset)" wrote ... Oh dear... :-( Well Keith, as someone with a little knowledge of growing one's own I find the program rather entertaining in the almost childlike enthusiasm for the subject, like the look on a child's face digging their first self grown spud etc., wonderful to behold. I also like Carol as a presenter and find her enthusiasm infectious (just like Roy Lancaster). She does know about growing (pretty) stuff, has done it for years, made a living out of it and built a business around it so also has my respect. Sounds awful but I actually didn't expect to learn much because it's on at peak viewing time, a time when no program will be shown that might appeal to a severely restricted audience like a serious down and in-depth gardening program about veg growing would. If it enthuses only one person to take up the challenge of growing their own I say "Good on yer Carol". And the arthritis in her hands ( did anyone else notice?) must be bloody painful and still she smiles. -- Regards Bob H 17mls W. of London.UK |
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Grow Your Own Veg - yesterday
Hi Bob,
I agree with a lot you say - and I did very much enjoy seeing the kiddies being allowed to get their hands dirty in several episodes. I think Carol would be a much better presenter if she didn't overdo her enthusiam... but as she's establishing I suppose it's understandable. Roy Lancaster, is at the very top of the tree - Carol's on her way up there. I hope things go well for her... and that next time she gets a richer programme. Best wishes, Keith "Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... "Keith (Dorset)" wrote ... Oh dear... :-( Well Keith, as someone with a little knowledge of growing one's own I find the program rather entertaining in the almost childlike enthusiasm for the subject, like the look on a child's face digging their first self grown spud etc., wonderful to behold. I also like Carol as a presenter and find her enthusiasm infectious (just like Roy Lancaster). She does know about growing (pretty) stuff, has done it for years, made a living out of it and built a business around it so also has my respect. Sounds awful but I actually didn't expect to learn much because it's on at peak viewing time, a time when no program will be shown that might appeal to a severely restricted audience like a serious down and in-depth gardening program about veg growing would. If it enthuses only one person to take up the challenge of growing their own I say "Good on yer Carol". And the arthritis in her hands ( did anyone else notice?) must be bloody painful and still she smiles. -- Regards Bob H 17mls W. of London.UK |
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Grow Your Own Veg - yesterday
On 12 Feb, 23:36, "Bob Hobden" wrote:
"Keith (Dorset)" wrote ... Oh dear... :-( Well Keith, as someone with a little knowledge of growing one's own I find the program rather entertaining in the almost childlike enthusiasm for the subject, like the look on a child's face digging their first self grown spud etc., wonderful to behold. I also like Carol as a presenter and find her enthusiasm infectious (just like Roy Lancaster). She does know about growing (pretty) stuff, has done it for years, made a living out of it and built a business around it so also has my respect. Sounds awful but I actually didn't expect to learn much because it's on at peak viewing time, a time when no program will be shown that might appeal to a severely restricted audience like a serious down and in-depth gardening program about veg growing would. If it enthuses only one person to take up the challenge of growing their own I say "Good on yer Carol". Hear hear!! And the arthritis in her hands ( did anyone else notice?) must be bloody painful and still she smiles. Yes, I did the first time. It's amusing to read some comments about her hair, clothes and enthusiam. If she didn't have messy hair, dirty clothes and had little enthusiasm, she wouldn't be a gardener ) |
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