I had really struggled to find some long (three quarter inch) cropped
bolts.

Found at Two Wests and Elliott (www.twowests.co.uk) - also a good
range of other garden stuff

Excellent postal service.

(I'm nothing to do with them other than as a customer)

On May 6, 11:07 am, judith wrote:
I had really struggled to find some long (three quarter inch) cropped
bolts.

Found at Two Wests and Elliott (www.twowests.co.uk) - also a good
range of other garden stuff

Excellent postal service.

(I'm nothing to do with them other than as a customer)

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Quote: "I had really struggled to find some long (three quarter inch)
cropped bolts".

Excuse this, because I'm not trying to be obtuse! Or even funny!

Three quarter inch bolts are pretty short; eh?.

But the interaction of the two words 'Greenhouse' and 'cropped' have
me confused!

With visions of bolts being 'cropped' (like green house peas/tomatoes)
before they are grown to full size, in mind; please what is a
'cropped' bolt?

Presumably of a certain short size/length etc. But if so bolts can
usually be shortened fairly quickly by cutting off with a hack saw or
grinder? If there is concern about galvanised ones rusting where cut
off some paint after installation will often help. Wouldn't take long
to do a couple of dozen?

BTW when shortening a bolt/screw we usually put on a nut and screw it
off after the cutting to help clean out the cut-off threads. Seems
easier that trying to put a fresh nut onto the newly cut-off and often
rough edged threads.

Just curious about 'cropped' bolts??????????????????? Thanks.

On Sun, 06 May 2007 01:48:52 -0700, terry wrote:

On May 6, 11:07 am, judith wrote:
I had really struggled to find some long (three quarter inch) cropped
bolts.

Found at Two Wests and Elliott (www.twowests.co.uk) - also a good range
of other garden stuff

Excellent postal service.

(I'm nothing to do with them other than as a customer)

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Quote: "I had really struggled to find some long (three quarter inch)
cropped bolts".

Excuse this, because I'm not trying to be obtuse! Or even funny!

Three quarter inch bolts are pretty short; eh?.

But the interaction of the two words 'Greenhouse' and 'cropped' have me
confused!

With visions of bolts being 'cropped' (like green house peas/tomatoes)
before they are grown to full size, in mind; please what is a 'cropped'
bolt?

Presumably of a certain short size/length etc. But if so bolts can usually
be shortened fairly quickly by cutting off with a hack saw or grinder? If
there is concern about galvanised ones rusting where cut off some paint
after installation will often help. Wouldn't take long to do a couple of
dozen?

BTW when shortening a bolt/screw we usually put on a nut and screw it off
after the cutting to help clean out the cut-off threads. Seems easier that
trying to put a fresh nut onto the newly cut-off and often rough edged
threads.

Just curious about 'cropped' bolts??????????????????? Thanks.

===============================
http://www.twowests.co.uk/TwoWestsSite/product/CNB.htm

Cic.

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On Sun, 06 May 2007 09:07:01 +0100, judith wrote:

|!I had really struggled to find some long (three quarter inch) cropped
|!bolts.

When I was an apprentice mumble years ago I *made* a tool to do this,
unfortunately metrication has made them useless. Must make a metric one.

Drill and tap a hole in a 1/4 inch thick bit if mild steel about 1 inch
wide. Saw through centre of the hole, lengthwise in mild steel. Put long
bolt in tapped hole. Put tool in vice squeezing shut saw cut. Hacksaw
bolt to length as required.
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On 6 May, 10:12, Dave Fawthrop
wrote:
On Sun, 06 May 2007 09:07:01 +0100, judith wrote:

|!I had really struggled to find some long (three quarter inch) cropped
|!bolts.

When I was an apprentice mumble years ago I *made* a tool to do this,
unfortunately metrication has made them useless. Must make a metric one.

Drill and tap a hole in a 1/4 inch thick bit if mild steel about 1 inch
wide. Saw through centre of the hole, lengthwise in mild steel. Put long
bolt in tapped hole. Put tool in vice squeezing shut saw cut. Hacksaw
bolt to length as required.
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On 6 May, 10:12, Dave Fawthrop
wrote:
On Sun, 06 May 2007 09:07:01 +0100, judith wrote:

|!I had really struggled to find some long (three quarter inch) cropped
|!bolts.

When I was an apprentice mumble years ago I *made* a tool to do this,
unfortunately metrication has made them useless. Must make a metric one.

Drill and tap a hole in a 1/4 inch thick bit if mild steel about 1 inch
wide. Saw through centre of the hole, lengthwise in mild steel. Put long
bolt in tapped hole. Put tool in vice squeezing shut saw cut. Hacksaw
bolt to length as required.
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Terry clearly isn't a gardener with greenhouse as he would have
recognised what Judith is talking about. These are Aluminium bolts
which can fit into a slot in the Aluminium extrusion of the G/H frame
and lock in place when turned through 90 degrees and the nut
tightened.

Whereas Judith's source may be a good price I've always found them
available at the bigger B &Q and good garden centres.

Rob

On Sun, 06 May 2007 09:01:49 GMT, Cicero
mused:

On Sun, 06 May 2007 01:48:52 -0700, terry wrote:

On May 6, 11:07 am, judith wrote:
I had really struggled to find some long (three quarter inch) cropped
bolts.

Found at Two Wests and Elliott (www.twowests.co.uk) - also a good range
of other garden stuff

Excellent postal service.

(I'm nothing to do with them other than as a customer)

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Quote: "I had really struggled to find some long (three quarter inch)
cropped bolts".

Excuse this, because I'm not trying to be obtuse! Or even funny!

Three quarter inch bolts are pretty short; eh?.

But the interaction of the two words 'Greenhouse' and 'cropped' have me
confused!

With visions of bolts being 'cropped' (like green house peas/tomatoes)
before they are grown to full size, in mind; please what is a 'cropped'
bolt?

Presumably of a certain short size/length etc. But if so bolts can usually
be shortened fairly quickly by cutting off with a hack saw or grinder? If
there is concern about galvanised ones rusting where cut off some paint
after installation will often help. Wouldn't take long to do a couple of
dozen?

BTW when shortening a bolt/screw we usually put on a nut and screw it off
after the cutting to help clean out the cut-off threads. Seems easier that
trying to put a fresh nut onto the newly cut-off and often rough edged
threads.

Just curious about 'cropped' bolts??????????????????? Thanks.

===============================
http://www.twowests.co.uk/TwoWestsSite/product/CNB.htm

Cic.

Now cropped head bolts would have made much more sense. Cropped bolts
left me a little lost.
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"Dave Fawthrop" wrote in message
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On Sun, 06 May 2007 09:07:01 +0100, judith wrote:

|!I had really struggled to find some long (three quarter inch) cropped
|!bolts.

When I was an apprentice mumble years ago I *made* a tool to do this,
unfortunately metrication has made them useless. Must make a metric one.

Drill and tap a hole in a 1/4 inch thick bit if mild steel about 1 inch
wide. Saw through centre of the hole, lengthwise in mild steel. Put
long
bolt in tapped hole. Put tool in vice squeezing shut saw cut. Hacksaw
bolt to length as required.

I made a set of those in ISO metric sizes m6, m8, m10, and M12. Of course
the next one I needed to cut in a hurry was M7 :-((

But of course in this case, cropped refers to the head of the bolt, not the
shank.

Steve

On 6 May 2007 01:48:52 -0700, terry wrote:

On May 6, 11:07 am, judith wrote:
I had really struggled to find some long (three quarter inch) cropped
bolts.

Found at Two Wests and Elliott (www.twowests.co.uk) - also a good
range of other garden stuff

Excellent postal service.

(I'm nothing to do with them other than as a customer)

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Quote: "I had really struggled to find some long (three quarter inch)
cropped bolts".

Excuse this, because I'm not trying to be obtuse! Or even funny!

Three quarter inch bolts are pretty short; eh?.

But the interaction of the two words 'Greenhouse' and 'cropped' have
me confused!


A cropped bolt is a particular type of bolt used in green-houses. The
head has been "cropped" so that you can insert it into the greenhouse
slotted frame.
Normally they are half-inch - so in this context three quarters are
called "long".

"robgraham" wrote in message
oups.com...
On 6 May, 10:12, Dave Fawthrop
wrote:
On Sun, 06 May 2007 09:07:01 +0100, judith wrote:

|!I had really struggled to find some long (three quarter inch) cropped
|!bolts.

When I was an apprentice mumble years ago I *made* a tool to do this,
unfortunately metrication has made them useless. Must make a metric
one.

Drill and tap a hole in a 1/4 inch thick bit if mild steel about 1 inch
wide. Saw through centre of the hole, lengthwise in mild steel. Put
long
bolt in tapped hole. Put tool in vice squeezing shut saw cut. Hacksaw
bolt to length as required.
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Terry clearly isn't a gardener with greenhouse as he would have
recognised what Judith is talking about. These are Aluminium bolts
which can fit into a slot in the Aluminium extrusion of the G/H frame
and lock in place when turned through 90 degrees and the nut
tightened.

Yes, and they need to be aluminium. Steel ones would rust in the moist
atmosphere of a greenhouse.

Mary

"Dave Fawthrop" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 06 May 2007 09:07:01 +0100, judith wrote:

|!I had really struggled to find some long (three quarter inch) cropped
|!bolts.

When I was an apprentice mumble years ago I *made* a tool to do this,
unfortunately metrication has made them useless. Must make a metric one.

It's the heads which are "cropped" so as to fit into slots and only turn a
few degrees before locking up. A nut on the bolt can then tightened.

If the bolts had been too long it would not have mattered so no jig required
and anyway, why not hold the bolt thread to be cut off in the vice?

The electrochemical potential difference between aluminium and most other
metals is such that the aluminium would corrode hence ally bolts are used.

I've often filed the heads of ally bolts to fit the slots.

Lionel

judith wrote:
I had really struggled to find some long (three quarter inch) cropped
bolts.

Found at Two Wests and Elliott (www.twowests.co.uk) - also a good
range of other garden stuff

Excellent postal service.

(I'm nothing to do with them other than as a customer)

'ere ya go..............

http://www.cmsgardens.co.uk/greenh.htm

about half way down the page............

ELNB 10 22mm long cropped ally nuts & bolts......£2.45



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On 6 May, 14:14, "BoyPete" wrote:
judith wrote:
I had really struggled to find some long (three quarter inch) cropped
bolts.

Found at Two Wests and Elliott (www.twowests.co.uk) - also a good
range of other garden stuff

Excellent postal service.

(I'm nothing to do with them other than as a customer)

'ere ya go..............

http://www.cmsgardens.co.uk/greenh.htm

about half way down the page............

ELNB 10 22mm long cropped ally nuts & bolts......£2.45



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Have you tried Kays Discount Garden Supplies'
http://www.kaysdiscountgarden.co.uk/.../14/-ecommerce
Very good service though their catalogue, on line and printed take
some getting used to.
I use then quite a lot as their prices are often better than some of
the wholesale firms
David Hill
Abacus Nurseries.

"Dave Fawthrop" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 06 May 2007 09:07:01 +0100, judith wrote:

|!I had really struggled to find some long (three quarter inch) cropped
|!bolts.

When I was an apprentice mumble years ago I *made* a tool to do this,
unfortunately metrication has made them useless. Must make a metric one.

Drill and tap a hole in a 1/4 inch thick bit if mild steel about 1 inch
wide. Saw through centre of the hole, lengthwise in mild steel. Put
long
bolt in tapped hole. Put tool in vice squeezing shut saw cut. Hacksaw
bolt to length as required.
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Was that Whitworth or BSF? ;0)

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"Rog" wrote in message ...
"Dave Fawthrop" wrote in message
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On Sun, 06 May 2007 09:07:01 +0100, judith wrote:

|!I had really struggled to find some long (three quarter inch) cropped
|!bolts.

When I was an apprentice mumble years ago I *made* a tool to do this,
unfortunately metrication has made them useless. Must make a metric
one.

Drill and tap a hole in a 1/4 inch thick bit if mild steel about 1 inch
wide. Saw through centre of the hole, lengthwise in mild steel. Put
long
bolt in tapped hole. Put tool in vice squeezing shut saw cut. Hacksaw
bolt to length as required.
--
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Was that Whitworth or BSF? ;0)

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1/4 BSF when I did a similar operation in 1952 :-((

Loved to work in BA sizes :-))

Then went onto Metric before I went into Marine Electrical Design :-))
Management :-)) and off my tools :-))

Mike


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