In reply to Zhang DaWei ) who wrote this in
gum-uwief, I, Marvo, say :

On Monday 02 Jul 2007 08:06, Uncle Marvo
) wrote:

In reply to La Puce ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say
:

On 29 Jun, 16:19, Zhang DaWei wrote:
Dog was reasonably all right, too.

Don't. Just don't start this here or I'll have to kill you. Slowly.
You're in the wrong forum with the wrong people entirely. Stick to
horticulture.

Don't worry, Ms P.

Zhang is winding you up - dog tastes just like chard.

Nope. I have tested dog whilst in China. They have specific breeds
that are grown just for meat there.

A lot of cultures have animals bred for meat which a Brit wouldn't normally
eat. When I was last in France I saw a chevalier's shop - I think he was
flogging a dead horse.

By the way, the family name is Zhang, the given name is DaWei. Chinese
writes names the other way round to English. So for Mao Zedong (or
Mao Tse Tung, if you like the non-pinyin version), the family name
was Mao (it means "Hair" or "Fur"), and the given names were Zedong
(or Tse Tong). So refrring to the gang of four leader "Madame Mao"
was quite correct.)

Bizarrely, I knew that. I should have said Mr Zhang, Ms Zhang or Mrs Zhang,
but I didn't know which it was from Da Wei.

"Uncle Marvo" wrote in message
...

A lot of cultures have animals bred for meat which a Brit wouldn't
normally eat. When I was last in France I saw a chevalier's shop - I think
he was flogging a dead horse.

We used to eat horse meat until the shop (along with a good deal of Leeds
market) was burned down. It was excellent meat.

Mary

On 2 Jul, 09:58, Zhang DaWei wrote:
Nope. I have tested dog whilst in China. They have specific breeds that are
grown just for meat there.

Rubbish. I've seen 6 types of breed for consumption, one of which I
happen to have. So you've been fooled to beleive you've eaten a
'special dog'. And a dog is not 'grown' like a cabbage. It's an
animal, a mamal, like you. A dog would risk his life for you. Dogs
have benefited human society for as long as we can remember. You
perhaps would say so did horses - even my neighbour has been 'saved'
by her budgie and a friend of mine weapt for days when she lost her
fish. But nothing, nothing can compare to the faithfulness and
unconditional love a dog gives you. Nothing.

Once you've seen those dogs and heard their screams as they are being
tortured and slaughtered on a chinese market, on a daily basis - Made
in China has a different ring to it. If you or anyone else wants to
see footages of dogs on chinese markets, email me. But be prepared -
your life will change after that.

And Da Wei, it's nothing personal and I'm sure you're a lovely chap.
But just don't think that it is normal to eat dogs and cats. Because
it's not.

end of rant

On 4 Jul, 21:28, Zhang DaWei wrote:
Having lived in China for quite a while, and having extensive family there,
I think I know more about it than you do, for all your xenophobic ranting.

Xenophobic?! Me? But I'm an immigrant, just like you.

I have absolutely nothing at all, but at all about Chinese people and
have a few Chinese friends who like me are appauled by this issue. You
haven't said if you were?! Why not?! But I do have a problem with the
Chinese government. Always have. It's perhaps unfair from me to have
suggested that the whole of such an immense country be responsible for
something which happens only in some areas and which I find cruel and
totally unacceptable. I feel also unfair to start a boycott either.
But sadly the problem is still there, whatever you think and the
boycott has started.

The fur trade is also another issue. That and the environmental
destruction that is currently happening in China in the name of
progress. Good god Dawei, wake up man!

I can see why the others in the group think poorly of you now.

Is this the best you can do as a reply? And what group?! This is not a
group but usenet. And I have lots of friends on this forum,
individuals who I have met and spent time with. Have you?! I didn't
think so.

In reply to La Puce ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

On 4 Jul, 21:28, Zhang DaWei wrote:
Having lived in China for quite a while, and having extensive family
there, I think I know more about it than you do, for all your
xenophobic ranting.

Xenophobic?! Me? But I'm an immigrant, just like you.

So am I. My lot crept over in 1066.

[snip]


I can see why the others in the group think poorly of you now.

I like La Puce.

"Uncle Marvo" wrote in message
...


Xenophobic?! Me? But I'm an immigrant, just like you.

So am I. My lot crept over in 1066.

What all of them?

Are you 100% sure?

Mary

On 5 Jul, 12:07, "Uncle Marvo"
wrote:
So am I. My lot crept over in 1066.

Your middle name's Norman?

I like La Puce.

Thanks Uncle. I really don't mind. It's good to chat with people - air
a few things and empty one's bag etc.

Now, still no news of the variety of the Spanish tree you saw. Perhaps
you could put it out here, someone is bound to know it. How is your
bougainvillea doing with all that rain?! Our two passiflora are
drowning. First thing on Saturday I'm sorting out some sort of roof
over the pergola or we will lose them. The flowers are extraordinary -
a treat for the soul )

In reply to La Puce ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

On 5 Jul, 12:07, "Uncle Marvo"
wrote:
So am I. My lot crept over in 1066.

Your middle name's Norman?

My last name was bestowed by William, the one who had the morbid interest in
horse chestnuts.

I like La Puce.

Thanks Uncle. I really don't mind. It's good to chat with people - air
a few things and empty one's bag etc.

Now, still no news of the variety of the Spanish tree you saw. Perhaps
you could put it out here, someone is bound to know it. How is your
bougainvillea doing with all that rain?! Our two passiflora are
drowning. First thing on Saturday I'm sorting out some sort of roof
over the pergola or we will lose them. The flowers are extraordinary -
a treat for the soul )

I can't post the picture, I've got nowhere to post it :-)

The bougainvillea loves it. Still bracting away, seems that as long as you
stress it (by keeping it in too small a pot) you can get away with it. And
it is set up to drain as fast as the rain can come down.

On 5 Jul, 12:37, "Uncle Marvo"
wrote:
My last name was bestowed by William, the one who had the morbid interest in
horse chestnuts.

Interesting looking suspiciously at Uncle now

I can't post the picture, I've got nowhere to post it :-)

Do you want me to for you?!

In reply to La Puce ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

On 5 Jul, 12:37, "Uncle Marvo"
wrote:
My last name was bestowed by William, the one who had the morbid
interest in horse chestnuts.

Interesting looking suspiciously at Uncle now

William the Conkerer.

I can't post the picture, I've got nowhere to post it :-)

Do you want me to for you?!

Please :-)

On 5 Jul, 12:56, "Uncle Marvo"
wrote:
Interesting looking suspiciously at Uncle now

William the Conkerer.

LOL!!! I knew it, I-just-knew-it.

Please :-)

Done.

On 5 Jul, 15:14, Zhang DaWei wrote:
Because it wasn't relevant at all.

I am sorry to have offended you because that wasn't my intention and
clearly I did. The issue of cruelty to dogs in China prior to eating
them, you know like breaking their legs backwards to attach them
behind their backs while still alive, is something very close to my
heart. I wasn't having a personnal go at you, but at the people who
do this. Clearly you have no morals. I did say that you might be a
nice chap but in retrospects I think you're bonking mad.

In reply to La Puce ) who wrote this in
, I, Marvo, say :

On 5 Jul, 15:14, Zhang DaWei wrote:
Because it wasn't relevant at all.

I am sorry to have offended you because that wasn't my intention and
clearly I did. The issue of cruelty to dogs in China prior to eating
them, you know like breaking their legs backwards to attach them
behind their backs while still alive, is something very close to my
heart. I wasn't having a personnal go at you, but at the people who
do this. Clearly you have no morals. I did say that you might be a
nice chap but in retrospects I think you're bonking mad.

You and your English, Ms P! It's "Barking" mad.

You're probably right.

Please don't bite :-)

Unc

On 5 Jul, 16:27, Zhang DaWei wrote:
In my own experience, which was being horrified to see
the skinning of a dead dog in public,

Good. You feel. That's all I needed to know. See, easy. See you
around.

"Uncle Marvo" wrote

I can't post the picture, I've got nowhere to post it :-)

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