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I have a wonderful hedging rose in flower at the moment, the smell is
amazing. A friend asked me what it was called and I had to hide my ignorance
by diving into the border to find the label, the name on the label says it
is Rosa Rugosa Japanese Rose, the picture shows a single rose but mine is
not a single by any stretch of the imagination, the hips will be there
later, small spiky thorns are there but the flower is different, I need
educating I think. I must switch off the p.c. as we are having a belting
thunderstorm here and power cuts, better be safe than sorry

kate

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On 2009-05-19 14:39:19 +0100, "Kate Morgan" said:

I have a wonderful hedging rose in flower at the moment, the smell is
amazing. A friend asked me what it was called and I had to hide my
ignorance by diving into the border to find the label, the name on the
label says it is Rosa Rugosa Japanese Rose, the picture shows a single
rose but mine is not a single by any stretch of the imagination, the
hips will be there later, small spiky thorns are there but the flower
is different, I need educating I think. I must switch off the p.c. as
we are having a belting thunderstorm here and power cuts, better be
safe than sorry

kate


There are varieties of which one beauty is Roseraie de l'Hay. They
make an excellent Bill the Burglar repellent!
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Kate Morgan writes
I have a wonderful hedging rose in flower at the moment, the smell is
amazing. A friend asked me what it was called and I had to hide my
ignorance by diving into the border to find the label, the name on the
label says it is Rosa Rugosa Japanese Rose, the picture shows a single
rose but mine is not a single by any stretch of the imagination, the
hips will be there later, small spiky thorns are there but the flower
is different, I need educating I think. I must switch off the p.c. as
we are having a belting thunderstorm here and power cuts, better be
safe than sorry

Rosa rugosa is the wild species, and there has been a lot of breeding to
produce different garden varieties, some of which are double. As far as
I know, all the rugosa varieties are either white or deep pink. The easy
characteristic, though, is the 'rugose' leaves - sort of all crinkled up
rather than smooth and shiny like most roses.
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I have a wonderful hedging rose in flower at the moment, the smell is
amazing. A friend asked me what it was called and I had to hide my
ignorance by diving into the border to find the label, the name on the
label says it is Rosa Rugosa Japanese Rose, the picture shows a single rose
but mine is not a single by any stretch of the imagination, the hips will
be there later, small spiky thorns are there but the flower is different, I
need educating I think. I must switch off the p.c. as we are having a
belting thunderstorm here and power cuts, better be safe than sorry

kate


If you are having a belting thunderstorm and your telephone is fed overhead,
even a small part of the way, unplug your telephone. A Lightening strike
will 'approach' a telephone wire and if that wire is attached to something
connected to the Mains, then the Earth element in that 'something will act
as a lightening conductor and blow the equipment up. Cordless telephones
were, and maybe still are, very much prone to being blown up. South Wight
Borough Council's Offices were hit by a strike and completely wrecked a huge
telephone system.

Can someone please pass this message on to the idiots who have unwisely
chosen to kill file me. I would hate 'even them' to miss this important
safety announcement :-))

Mike


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Sacha wrote:
On 2009-05-19 14:39:19 +0100, "Kate Morgan"
said:

I have a wonderful hedging rose in flower at the moment, the smell is
amazing. A friend asked me what it was called and I had to hide my
ignorance by diving into the border to find the label, the name on the
label says it is Rosa Rugosa Japanese Rose, the picture shows a single
rose but mine is not a single by any stretch of the imagination, the
hips will be there later, small spiky thorns are there but the flower
is different, I need educating I think. I must switch off the p.c. as
we are having a belting thunderstorm here and power cuts, better be
safe than sorry

kate


There are varieties of which one beauty is Roseraie de l'Hay. They make
an excellent Bill the Burglar repellent!


I've got a couple of varieties of the purplish Rosa Rugosa growing.
Interesting comment about the burglar repellent - on my last visit to
England I was walking past a fence where some had escaped through a gap
and was invading the pavement. It had white flowers - a small piece
conveniently fell off and landed in my hand. It is now growing in a
plant pot in France. :-)

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"'Mike'" wrote
If you are having a belting thunderstorm and your telephone is fed
overhead, even a small part of the way, unplug your telephone. A
Lightening strike will 'approach' a telephone wire and if that wire is
attached to something connected to the Mains, then the Earth element in
that 'something will act as a lightening conductor and blow the equipment
up. Cordless telephones were, and maybe still are, very much prone to
being blown up. South Wight Borough Council's Offices were hit by a strike
and completely wrecked a huge telephone system.

Some years ago when I worked I arrived at the office, opened up, walked
round all floors and everything seemed normal. Later when the staff arrived
it became obvious all the phone lines were down. Called in the BT engineers
and when they looked in the cabinet the boards were just black charcoal,
amazing sight. A complete new cabinet and boards had to be installed.
Engineer said it could have hit the wires miles away and just chose our
system to wreck. A quiet day at the office was the result. :-)

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Bob Hobden
just W. of London



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"'Mike'" wrote
If you are having a belting thunderstorm and your telephone is fed
overhead, even a small part of the way, unplug your telephone. A
Lightening strike will 'approach' a telephone wire and if that wire is
attached to something connected to the Mains, then the Earth element in
that 'something will act as a lightening conductor and blow the equipment
up. Cordless telephones were, and maybe still are, very much prone to
being blown up. South Wight Borough Council's Offices were hit by a
strike and completely wrecked a huge telephone system.

Some years ago when I worked I arrived at the office, opened up, walked
round all floors and everything seemed normal. Later when the staff
arrived it became obvious all the phone lines were down. Called in the BT
engineers and when they looked in the cabinet the boards were just black
charcoal, amazing sight. A complete new cabinet and boards had to be
installed.
Engineer said it could have hit the wires miles away and just chose our
system to wreck. A quiet day at the office was the result. :-)

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
just W. of London




Same thing. The Lightening strike is looking for an earth. 'Everything' is
earthed now.

Just think about it, what wires are plugged into a computer? A telephone
wire, unless it's wireless, and a mains lead with a thumping great big earth
connection

Mike


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On 2009-05-19 16:26:36 +0100, David in Normandy
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Sacha wrote:
On 2009-05-19 14:39:19 +0100, "Kate Morgan" said:

I have a wonderful hedging rose in flower at the moment, the smell is
amazing. A friend asked me what it was called and I had to hide my
ignorance by diving into the border to find the label, the name on the
label says it is Rosa Rugosa Japanese Rose, the picture shows a single
rose but mine is not a single by any stretch of the imagination, the
hips will be there later, small spiky thorns are there but the flower
is different, I need educating I think. I must switch off the p.c. as
we are having a belting thunderstorm here and power cuts, better be
safe than sorry

kate


There are varieties of which one beauty is Roseraie de l'Hay. They
make an excellent Bill the Burglar repellent!


I've got a couple of varieties of the purplish Rosa Rugosa growing.
Interesting comment about the burglar repellent - on my last visit to
England I was walking past a fence where some had escaped through a gap
and was invading the pavement. It had white flowers - a small piece
conveniently fell off and landed in my hand. It is now growing in a
plant pot in France. :-)


Amazing how plants do that sometimes, isn't it? ;-)
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I have a wonderful hedging rose in flower at the moment, the smell is
amazing. A friend asked me what it was called and I had to hide my
ignorance by diving into the border to find the label, the name on the
label says it is Rosa Rugosa Japanese Rose, the picture shows a single
rose but mine is not a single by any stretch of the imagination, the hips
will be there later, small spiky thorns are there but the flower is
different, I need educating I think. I must switch off the p.c. as we are
having a belting thunderstorm here and power cuts, better be safe than
sorry

Rosa rugosa is the wild species, and there has been a lot of breeding to
produce different garden varieties, some of which are double. As far as I
know, all the rugosa varieties are either white or deep pink. The easy
characteristic, though, is the 'rugose' leaves - sort of all crinkled up
rather than smooth and shiny like most roses.
--
Kay





Sacha put forward one possibility and that is Roseraie de l`Hay and after
looking closely at mine and other pictures on line I think that may be the
one, it is the nearest so far, later it will have super hips and it does
indeed have crinkled leaves as Kay suggests

thanks to all

kate

p.s. we survived the thunder and lightning :-)

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On May 19, 9:27*pm, "Kate Morgan" wrote:
I have a wonderful hedging rose in flower at the moment, the smell is
amazing. A friend asked me what it was called and I had to hide my
ignorance by diving into the border to find the label, the name on the
label says it is Rosa Rugosa Japanese Rose, the picture shows a single
rose but mine is not a single by any stretch of the imagination, the hips
will be there later, small spiky thorns are there but the flower is
different, I need educating I think. I must switch off the p.c. as we are
having a belting thunderstorm here and power cuts, better be safe than
sorry


Rosa rugosa is the wild species, and there has been a lot of breeding to
produce different garden varieties, some of which are double. As far as I
know, all the rugosa varieties are either white or deep pink. The easy
characteristic, though, is the 'rugose' leaves - sort of all crinkled up
rather than smooth and shiny like most roses.
--
Kay


Sacha put forward one possibility and that is Roseraie de l`Hay and after
looking closely at mine and other pictures on line I think that may be the
one, it is the nearest so far, later it will have super hips and it does
indeed have crinkled leaves as Kay suggests

If you like that one you might also enjoy the double white version,
Blanc Double de Couvert,
which also has wonderful scent. They are both grerat favourites of
mine . Both of them will sucker and spread, since its always grown on
its own roots the suckers match the parent and can be dug up for
propagating. A garden near here has vast billowing thickets of both
lining a boundary, a wonderful sight. For those who don't know it,
rosa rugosa is totally hardy and disease free, will grow in sand, and
if you keep deadheading it flowers all summer.

Janet





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just say no to wimples and chastity belts
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For those who don't know it, rosa rugosa is totally hardy and disease
free, will grow in sand, and if you keep deadheading it flowers all
summer.


Alternatively, if you leave it to its own devices it produces
gobstopper-sized hips which attract greenfinches and make excellent rose
hip syrup. You can make up for lost flowers by growing a late flowering
honeysuckle through it.
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On 2009-05-20 08:24:06 +0100, K said:

just say no to wimples and chastity belts writes
For those who don't know it, rosa rugosa is totally hardy and disease
free, will grow in sand, and if you keep deadheading it flowers all
summer.


Alternatively, if you leave it to its own devices it produces
gobstopper-sized hips which attract greenfinches and make excellent
rose hip syrup. You can make up for lost flowers by growing a late
flowering honeysuckle through it.


The hips really are a huge bonus, aren't they? Those lovely fruits,
just glowing with colour are fabulous and the birds compete wildly to
get at them. I used to have a couple of these plants in a previous
garden and it was so entertaining to watch the birds gorging themselves
but also lovely to think it was building them up for the winter to come.
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K wrote:
just say no to wimples and chastity belts
writes
For those who don't know it, rosa rugosa is totally hardy and disease
free, will grow in sand, and if you keep deadheading it flowers all
summer.


Alternatively, if you leave it to its own devices it produces
gobstopper-sized hips which attract greenfinches and make excellent rose
hip syrup. You can make up for lost flowers by growing a late flowering
honeysuckle through it.


Rose hip syrup? That sounds like a good idea. I see a little googling
coming on.

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On 2009-05-20 09:32:24 +0100, David in Normandy
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K wrote:
just say no to wimples and chastity belts writes
For those who don't know it, rosa rugosa is totally hardy and disease
free, will grow in sand, and if you keep deadheading it flowers all
summer.


Alternatively, if you leave it to its own devices it produces
gobstopper-sized hips which attract greenfinches and make excellent
rose hip syrup. You can make up for lost flowers by growing a late
flowering honeysuckle through it.


Rose hip syrup? That sounds like a good idea. I see a little googling
coming on.


I think it might also be a good idea to check on whether it's okay to
use hips from roses that have been sprayed. I don't know if the
old-fashioned rose hip syrup came from organically grown roses but we
know a bit more nowadays! And it may depend on what they were sprayed
with and how long before picking.
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On May 19, 9:27 pm, "Kate Morgan" wrote:
I have a wonderful hedging rose in flower at the moment, the smell is
amazing. A friend asked me what it was called and I had to hide my
ignorance by diving into the border to find the label, the name on the
label says it is Rosa Rugosa Japanese Rose, the picture shows a single
rose but mine is not a single by any stretch of the imagination, the
hips
will be there later, small spiky thorns are there but the flower is
different, I need educating I think. I must switch off the p.c. as we
are
having a belting thunderstorm here and power cuts, better be safe than
sorry


Rosa rugosa is the wild species, and there has been a lot of breeding to
produce different garden varieties, some of which are double. As far as
I
know, all the rugosa varieties are either white or deep pink. The easy
characteristic, though, is the 'rugose' leaves - sort of all crinkled up
rather than smooth and shiny like most roses.
--
Kay


Sacha put forward one possibility and that is Roseraie de l`Hay and after
looking closely at mine and other pictures on line I think that may be the
one, it is the nearest so far, later it will have super hips and it does
indeed have crinkled leaves as Kay suggests

If you like that one you might also enjoy the double white version,
Blanc Double de Couvert,
which also has wonderful scent. They are both grerat favourites of
mine . Both of them will sucker and spread, since its always grown on
its own roots the suckers match the parent and can be dug up for
propagating. A garden near here has vast billowing thickets of both
lining a boundary, a wonderful sight. For those who don't know it,
rosa rugosa is totally hardy and disease free, will grow in sand, and
if you keep deadheading it flowers all summer.

Janet

Wouldnt the two of them make a fantastic hedge, I feel another hedge coming
on :-) I like the fact that I can dig up suckers for propagation must have
a go at that. I dont do any deadheading as the hips are another bonus but
maybe I could just take odd one or two off, it is a big plant.

kate



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