Does anyone know of a thornless rose, other than Zephirine Druouhin?
I cut back my ZD hard when I had my fence replaced recently and it
doesn't seem to be showing any new growth.Are there others which are
thornless? I'd like to put another rose further along the fence.
I don't grow anything with thorns, so no other roses, and now with
failing sight it's even more important to me to have one without
thorns but with scent.
Any ideas?

Pam in Bristol

* Pam Moore wrote, On 25/05/2010 08:06:
Does anyone know of a thornless rose, other than Zephirine Druouhin?
I cut back my ZD hard when I had my fence replaced recently and it
doesn't seem to be showing any new growth.Are there others which are
thornless? I'd like to put another rose further along the fence.
I don't grow anything with thorns, so no other roses, and now with
failing sight it's even more important to me to have one without
thorns but with scent.
Any ideas?

I've just been out and frisked my Rosa Goldfinch and can't see any
thorns on it! I see that the book describes it as "almost thornless"
though, so I can't be certain that you won't find any! Mine is next
to a path though and I've never been scratched by it.

Another scented option would be honeysuckle, which can be lovely up
against a fence.

--
Cheers, Serena

God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can; and wisdom to know the difference.

In article ,
says...
Does anyone know of a thornless rose, other than Zephirine Druouhin?
I cut back my ZD hard when I had my fence replaced recently and it
doesn't seem to be showing any new growth.Are there others which are
thornless? I'd like to put another rose further along the fence.
I don't grow anything with thorns, so no other roses, and now with
failing sight it's even more important to me to have one without
thorns but with scent.
Any ideas?

Pam in Bristol

Veilchenblau and Violette, plus Madam Alfred Carrier
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

"Pam Moore" wrote
Does anyone know of a thornless rose, other than Zephirine Druouhin?
I cut back my ZD hard when I had my fence replaced recently and it
doesn't seem to be showing any new growth.Are there others which are
thornless? I'd like to put another rose further along the fence.
I don't grow anything with thorns, so no other roses, and now with
failing sight it's even more important to me to have one without
thorns but with scent.
Any ideas?

Worth making contact with growers like David Austin Roses and asking your
question of them.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
W.of London. UK

"Pam Moore" wrote:
Does anyone know of a thornless rose, other than Zephirine Druouhin?
I cut back my ZD hard when I had my fence replaced recently and it
doesn't seem to be showing any new growth.Are there others which are
thornless? I'd like to put another rose further along the fence.
I don't grow anything with thorns, so no other roses, and now with
failing sight it's even more important to me to have one without
thorns but with scent.
Any ideas?

I've got a 'Kathleen Harrop' which is a paler pink sport of ZD. I grow
it over an arch and, given my unfavourable sandy soil, it does well.
It's also thornless and has a good scent and repeat flowers. The only
drawback is that it does suffer a bit with the dreaded black-spot most
years unless sprayed.

--
Sue

On Tue, 25 May 2010 11:08:29 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 2010-05-25 08:06:20 +0100, Pam Moore said:

Does anyone know of a thornless rose, other than Zephirine Druouhin?
I cut back my ZD hard when I had my fence replaced recently and it
doesn't seem to be showing any new growth.Are there others which are
thornless? I'd like to put another rose further along the fence.
I don't grow anything with thorns, so no other roses, and now with
failing sight it's even more important to me to have one without
thorns but with scent.
Any ideas?

Pam in Bristol

The only others I can think of off the top of my head is Rosa banksiae
lutescens and R. b. lutea but they're not very scented, though do have
some perfume. They also flower on old wood so no heavy pruning is a
good thing. Had you considered a Clematis flammula which is
wonderfully scented and terribly pretty with its tiny white flowers?

Thanks for the suggestion Sacha. I have several clematis, but not
flammula, though It's got an almondy scent hasn't it, and I wasn't too
keen when I encountered one once.
It is a rose I want, but I'm afraid yellow does not have a place in my
very small garden, except for narcissi. I saw a Rosa banksiae trained
on an old house a few years ago, and it looked wonderful, but it's
not for me. (House near Marshfield, near Dyrham Park called Ridley's
Cheer, Mountain Bower! (Yellow Book) What an amazing name!

Pam in Bristol

On Tue, 25 May 2010 12:23:38 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
wrote:

* Pam Moore wrote, On 25/05/2010 08:06:
Does anyone know of a thornless rose, other than Zephirine Druouhin?
I cut back my ZD hard when I had my fence replaced recently and it
doesn't seem to be showing any new growth.Are there others which are
thornless? I'd like to put another rose further along the fence.
I don't grow anything with thorns, so no other roses, and now with
failing sight it's even more important to me to have one without
thorns but with scent.
Any ideas?

I've just been out and frisked my Rosa Goldfinch and can't see any
thorns on it! I see that the book describes it as "almost thornless"
though, so I can't be certain that you won't find any! Mine is next
to a path though and I've never been scratched by it.

Another scented option would be honeysuckle, which can be lovely up
against a fence.

Thanks Serena
I guess Goldfinch is yellow is it? If so it's out, see my reply to
Sacha. I do have a honeysuckle. It has to be a rose.
Thanks for replying.

Pam in Bristol

On Tue, 25 May 2010 12:44:03 +0100, Charlie Pridham
wrote:

In article ,
says...
Does anyone know of a thornless rose, other than Zephirine Druouhin?
I cut back my ZD hard when I had my fence replaced recently and it
doesn't seem to be showing any new growth.Are there others which are
thornless? I'd like to put another rose further along the fence.
I don't grow anything with thorns, so no other roses, and now with
failing sight it's even more important to me to have one without
thorns but with scent.
Any ideas?

Pam in Bristol

Veilchenblau and Violette, plus Madam Alfred Carrier

Thanks Charlie, I'll look those up.

Pam in Bristol

On Tue, 25 May 2010 16:45:45 +0100, "Bob Hobden"
wrote:



"Pam Moore" wrote
Does anyone know of a thornless rose, other than Zephirine Druouhin?
I cut back my ZD hard when I had my fence replaced recently and it
doesn't seem to be showing any new growth.Are there others which are
thornless? I'd like to put another rose further along the fence.
I don't grow anything with thorns, so no other roses, and now with
failing sight it's even more important to me to have one without
thorns but with scent.
Any ideas?

Worth making contact with growers like David Austin Roses and asking your
question of them.

Good idea Bob. I'll do that. Thanks

Pam in Bristol

On Tue, 25 May 2010 18:09:31 +0100, "Sue"
wrote:


"Pam Moore" wrote:
Does anyone know of a thornless rose, other than Zephirine Druouhin?
I cut back my ZD hard when I had my fence replaced recently and it
doesn't seem to be showing any new growth.Are there others which are
thornless? I'd like to put another rose further along the fence.
I don't grow anything with thorns, so no other roses, and now with
failing sight it's even more important to me to have one without
thorns but with scent.
Any ideas?

I've got a 'Kathleen Harrop' which is a paler pink sport of ZD. I grow
it over an arch and, given my unfavourable sandy soil, it does well.
It's also thornless and has a good scent and repeat flowers. The only
drawback is that it does suffer a bit with the dreaded black-spot most
years unless sprayed.

Hi Sue, thanks.
I think Kathleen Harrop is one a friend mentioned to me a while ago.
Paler pink with good scent sounds jjust what I'm after. ZD is a bit
garish.

Pam in Bristol

* Pam Moore wrote, On 26/05/2010 14:23:
On Tue, 25 May 2010 12:23:38 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
wrote:

* Pam Moore wrote, On 25/05/2010 08:06:
Does anyone know of a thornless rose, other than Zephirine Druouhin?
I cut back my ZD hard when I had my fence replaced recently and it
doesn't seem to be showing any new growth.Are there others which are
thornless? I'd like to put another rose further along the fence.
I don't grow anything with thorns, so no other roses, and now with
failing sight it's even more important to me to have one without
thorns but with scent.
Any ideas?

I've just been out and frisked my Rosa Goldfinch and can't see any
thorns on it! I see that the book describes it as "almost thornless"
though, so I can't be certain that you won't find any! Mine is next
to a path though and I've never been scratched by it.

Another scented option would be honeysuckle, which can be lovely up
against a fence.

Thanks Serena
I guess Goldfinch is yellow is it? If so it's out, see my reply to
Sacha. I do have a honeysuckle. It has to be a rose.
Thanks for replying.

Hi Pam,

Sorry, yes it is yellow.

--
Cheers, Serena

There is nothing new under the sun but there are lots of old things we
don't know. (Ambrose Bierce)

On Tue, 25 May 2010 16:45:45 +0100, "Bob Hobden"
wrote:



"Pam Moore" wrote
Does anyone know of a thornless rose, other than Zephirine Druouhin?
I cut back my ZD hard when I had my fence replaced recently and it
doesn't seem to be showing any new growth.Are there others which are
thornless? I'd like to put another rose further along the fence.
I don't grow anything with thorns, so no other roses, and now with
failing sight it's even more important to me to have one without
thorns but with scent.
Any ideas?

Worth making contact with growers like David Austin Roses and asking your
question of them.

I emailed David Austin Roses and have already had a reply!
"The following climbing and rambling roses are completely thornless or
nearly so:
Amadis
Bleu Magenta
Mme Sancy de Parabere
Rose-Marie Viaud
Snow Goose
Veilchenblau
Violette
Please let us know if you have any further questions. One of our rose
experts will be more than happy to help."







Pam in Bristol

Janet Baraclough wrote:
You can see pics of their thornless roses on the DA website

http://www.davidaustinroses.com/engl...sp?PageId=2026

Ooh, I do like Rosa Mundi, and I suspect Tuscany Superb is also very nice,
but harder to tell from the photo. Kathleen Harrop has the nice shaped
flowers I like.

I found a bunch of roses I liked whilst randomly browsing links from this
thread, showed them to Nick and he hated all but 1 of them. *humph* Not
that I have any rose space left in the garden now. :-(

I keep meaning to take more photos and start a garden/allotment blog or
somesuch. Last year one of my roses won me the Best Specimen Bloom cup at
the local gardening club, but there were a lot fewer entries last year than
most. I don't think it would have won against a full set of competitors.
But I'll give it another go this year.

In article ,
says...
On Tue, 25 May 2010 11:08:29 +0100, Sacha wrote:

On 2010-05-25 08:06:20 +0100, Pam Moore said:

Does anyone know of a thornless rose, other than Zephirine Druouhin?
I cut back my ZD hard when I had my fence replaced recently and it
doesn't seem to be showing any new growth.Are there others which are
thornless? I'd like to put another rose further along the fence.
I don't grow anything with thorns, so no other roses, and now with
failing sight it's even more important to me to have one without
thorns but with scent.
Any ideas?

Pam in Bristol

The only others I can think of off the top of my head is Rosa banksiae
lutescens and R. b. lutea but they're not very scented, though do have
some perfume. They also flower on old wood so no heavy pruning is a
good thing. Had you considered a Clematis flammula which is
wonderfully scented and terribly pretty with its tiny white flowers?


It is a rose I want, but I'm afraid yellow does not have a place in my
very small garden, except for narcissi. I saw a Rosa banksiae trained
on an old house a few years ago, and it looked wonderful, but it's
not for me. (House near Marshfield, near Dyrham Park called Ridley's
Cheer, Mountain Bower! (Yellow Book) What an amazing name!

Pam in Bristol

Take a look at Rosa banksiae var banksiae its double white instead of
yellow completely thornless and evergreen
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

In article ,
says...
On Tue, 25 May 2010 16:45:45 +0100, "Bob Hobden"
wrote:



"Pam Moore" wrote
Does anyone know of a thornless rose, other than Zephirine Druouhin?
I cut back my ZD hard when I had my fence replaced recently and it
doesn't seem to be showing any new growth.Are there others which are
thornless? I'd like to put another rose further along the fence.
I don't grow anything with thorns, so no other roses, and now with
failing sight it's even more important to me to have one without
thorns but with scent.
Any ideas?

Worth making contact with growers like David Austin Roses and asking your
question of them.

I emailed David Austin Roses and have already had a reply!
"The following climbing and rambling roses are completely thornless or
nearly so:
Amadis
Bleu Magenta
Mme Sancy de Parabere
Rose-Marie Viaud
Snow Goose
Veilchenblau
Violette
Please let us know if you have any further questions. One of our rose
experts will be more than happy to help."







Pam in Bristol

Give Mme Sancy de Parabere a body swerve its weak and black spotty unless
you have realy good soil, we have it because the scent is just wonderful
but its not an "easy" rose

--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea