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btw - saw you in this month's Garden ;-) Nice to come across a familiar name.
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A species rose should be OK - I've grown several R glauca from seed. Not a quick way of propagating, though! Cuttings are far quicker to get a plant of flowering size.
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Rose Cuttings Advice Please
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lid says... Charlie Pridham wrote: In article , lid says... "Bob Hobden" wrote in message ... "Ian B" wrote My neighbour pruned a very admirable rose a few weeks ago and gave me some twigs as I'd said I liked it. I stuck three of them in the ground with some compost and fertiliser and kept them damp. They are all still green. One of them lost its leaves, but now it has new red shoots appearing, so I presume it's still alive. I'm just wondering what to do now; that is, should I let these shoots develop or not- will it exhaust itself by trying to grow new canes or something like that? Is there any particular time it will be established enough to transplant to a location I want it in? Is there a particular time of year to do so? I've had them appear to grow but obviously no roots did as they eventually died the following year. However if you can gets roots to grow they will be fine but best not to let them freeze this coming winter and if they grow away well next year plant them out. We have a nice yellow rose bush that came from a bunch of roses given to Sue by a friend, 5 cuttings and one rooted properly and grew but then I did just shove them in the garden. What is the difference when you propogate from cuttings, instead of buying a rose grafted onto a rootstock? Just wondering what the rootstock brings to the party if the rose cuttings grow O.K. without one. There are several reasons why specialist rose growers use budding, first as Bob mentions is it reduces the quantity of stock plant that must be maintained as each new plant takes less material, second it reduces the time to produce a bigger plant as the stock (root system) can be several years old before its used, this means a grower can react more quickly to market trends, thirdly not all roses will take from cuttings, certainly yellow roses are difficult and roses that suffer from mildew like Rambling Rector. There are however down sides, firstly suckers, not a problem with cuttings and secondly the choice of root stock often means poor performance on acid soils, and thirdly you need skilled persons to do the work What about gorwing from seed; I mean amateurs not commercial growers? Is My limited experiance comes from seeds that my children sowed when little and I was oblidged to grow on! The results which in no way resembled the seed parent but in all cases were perfectly gardenworthy plants, just not exceptional or different perhaps to ones already named, go for it its good fun, just don't expect to make any money!! -- Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall www.roselandhouse.co.uk Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and Lapageria rosea |
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Rose Cuttings Advice Please
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On 2010-08-26 19:33:36 +0100, "Kate Morgan" said: [...] My daughter gave me a Kiftsgate rose a few weeks ago, a piece got broken off and I stuck it in some water where it is producing healthy leaves but no roots as yet, I don't suppose it will :-( kate Hold your horses - it's always worth waiting with plants. Certainly is. But shouldn't Kate get it out of the water and into some free-draining compost before the roots get big enough to be damaged by the process? And, of course, before the new plant notices that it isn't getting anything to eat. -- Mike. |
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Rose Cuttings Advice Please
Sacha wrote:
On 2010-08-28 19:39:02 +0100, "Mike Lyle" said: Sacha wrote: On 2010-08-26 19:33:36 +0100, "Kate Morgan" said: [...] My daughter gave me a Kiftsgate rose a few weeks ago, a piece got broken off and I stuck it in some water where it is producing healthy leaves but no roots as yet, I don't suppose it will :-( kate Hold your horses - it's always worth waiting with plants. Certainly is. But shouldn't Kate get it out of the water and into some free-draining compost before the roots get big enough to be damaged by the process? And, of course, before the new plant notices that it isn't getting anything to eat. She said that it hasn't got any roots yet. If it does produce some your advice sounds good. Wouldn't some compost encourage it to root? Maybe it thinks it's doomed to be a cut flower at the moment, and it needs some encouragement to believe it has a future. Ian |
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Rose Cuttings Advice Please
Ian B wrote:
Sacha wrote: On 2010-08-28 19:39:02 +0100, "Mike Lyle" said: Sacha wrote: On 2010-08-26 19:33:36 +0100, "Kate Morgan" said: [...] My daughter gave me a Kiftsgate rose a few weeks ago, a piece got broken off and I stuck it in some water where it is producing healthy leaves but no roots as yet, I don't suppose it will :-( kate Hold your horses - it's always worth waiting with plants. Certainly is. But shouldn't Kate get it out of the water and into some free-draining compost before the roots get big enough to be damaged by the process? And, of course, before the new plant notices that it isn't getting anything to eat. She said that it hasn't got any roots yet. If it does produce some your advice sounds good. Should have gone to Specsavers... Wouldn't some compost encourage it to root? Maybe it thinks it's doomed to be a cut flower at the moment, and it needs some encouragement to believe it has a future. Yes, that's what I think, too. I don't think we want it producing new leaves before it's got a root system to feed them. -- Mike. |
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Rose Cuttings Advice Please
snip She said that it hasn't got any roots yet. If it does produce some your advice sounds good. Wouldn't some compost encourage it to root? Maybe it thinks it's doomed to be a cut flower at the moment, and it needs some encouragement to believe it has a future. Ian I've struck cuttings from other plants in water and then potted them up but if she does that now, it may just seal off the end and nothing will happen. I'm not saying that *would* happen but as it's putting out leaves that sounds hopeful to me and not the action of an ordinary cut plant. Willow does that and makes root in water, too. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon The rose cutting in question has been in water for some time now and is beginning to wilt, the stem is turning black at the bottom :-( kate |
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Rose Cuttings Advice Please
I've struck cuttings from other plants in water and then potted them up but if she does that now, it may just seal off the end and nothing will happen. I'm not saying that *would* happen but as it's putting out leaves that sounds hopeful to me and not the action of an ordinary cut plant. Willow does that and makes root in water, too. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon The rose cutting in question has been in water for some time now and is beginning to wilt, the stem is turning black at the bottom :-( kate In that case, can you take a cutting further up the stem and then pop that into some compost? -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon Indeed that is the most sensible thing to do, when it gets as short as a cigarette stub I will give up :-) kate |
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Rose Cuttings Advice Please
Sacha wrote:
On 2010-09-03 10:20:36 +0100, "Kate Morgan" said: I've struck cuttings from other plants in water and then potted them up but if she does that now, it may just seal off the end and nothing will happen. I'm not saying that *would* happen but as it's putting out leaves that sounds hopeful to me and not the action of an ordinary cut plant. Willow does that and makes root in water, too. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon The rose cutting in question has been in water for some time now and is beginning to wilt, the stem is turning black at the bottom :-( kate In that case, can you take a cutting further up the stem and then pop that into some compost? -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon Indeed that is the most sensible thing to do, when it gets as short as a cigarette stub I will give up :-) kate At least you've still got the original! Killing that off would probably require a shedload of weed killer. In my previous garden a neighbour had planted one which had gone the full height of a mature walnut tree and its slightly smaller brother and had then reached over to start colonising parts of my garden. It's a wonderful rose but what might reasonably be called 'vigorous'. ;-) That actually sounds pretty spectacular. Did it bloom well? Ian |
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Rose Cuttings Advice Please
At least you've still got the original! Killing that off would probably require a shedload of weed killer. In my previous garden a neighbour had planted one which had gone the full height of a mature walnut tree and its slightly smaller brother and had then reached over to start colonising parts of my garden. It's a wonderful rose but what might reasonably be called 'vigorous'. ;-) That actually sounds pretty spectacular. Did it bloom well? Ian I was wondering how vigorous it is, as good as Rambling Rector ? kate |
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Rose Cuttings Advice Please
I was wondering how vigorous it is, as good as Rambling Rector ?
kate More so, I'd say by a long chalk. On reflection I think it probably holds the title of voracious rather than just vigorous! I really doubt if there's another rose to match it for rampaging all over the place. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon eeek, now I have to decide where to put it :-) kate |
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Rose Cuttings Advice Please
I was wondering how vigorous it is, as good as Rambling Rector ?
kate More so, I'd say by a long chalk. On reflection I think it probably holds the title of voracious rather than just vigorous! I really doubt if there's another rose to match it for rampaging all over the place. -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon eeek, now I have to decide where to put it :-) kate In another County! ;-) -- Sacha www.hillhousenursery.com South Devon LOL |
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