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Would this composting idea give me problems?
In message , Baz
writes Martin Brown wrote in news:lFFso.11639 : Sounds like you live in a town or city. Regards, Martin Brown I live on the outskirts of S****horpe now but was born in a village nearby and both are not allowed to burn even smokeless fuel. Not allowed to burn anything, apart from my supper when I have had a few.and even then I get it in the neck so to speak. Baz I've lived in a smokeless zone since they were first introduced, but there were exemptions made a) for 30 minutes initial firing up of furnaces etc, and b) occasional burning of garden rubbish. Has that been changed, or are yours local byelaws? -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply |
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Would this composting idea give me problems?
Martin Brown wrote in
news If you stack it in heaps about 2m on a side and keep damp then it won't matter too much - the stuff will quickly heat up internally and rot down. I would not spread the stuff around without first composting it. Both ivy and bramble will regrow from fairly small pieces. Are you sure you want to move this sort of bulk material around? Might be a lot easier to compost it in situ (or burn) and take the ash as fertiliser. Clearing bramble, nettle, ivy scrubland I tend to favour a hit of glyphosate followed a few weeks later by torching it when tinder dry (putting in appropriate fire breaks). Ivy being so waxy survives glyphosate but it doesn't last long in a fire. Regards, Martin Brown Thanks to all. Unfortunately I can't have a fire where the brambles and ivy are groeing. The overgrown yard is surrounded by buildings. I'll have to cart the stuff away and either compost it or burn it on my own property which is more rural - or I could dump the lot at the council tip which is nearer to the yard. Shredding it would make it easier to cart away. It means I can cart it all away in perhaps three vanloads insted of ten (I'm guessing). Al |
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Would this composting idea give me problems?
On 12/10/2010 00:24, AL_n wrote:
Martin wrote in news If you stack it in heaps about 2m on a side and keep damp then it won't matter too much - the stuff will quickly heat up internally and rot down. I would not spread the stuff around without first composting it. Both ivy and bramble will regrow from fairly small pieces. Are you sure you want to move this sort of bulk material around? Might be a lot easier to compost it in situ (or burn) and take the ash as fertiliser. Clearing bramble, nettle, ivy scrubland I tend to favour a hit of glyphosate followed a few weeks later by torching it when tinder dry (putting in appropriate fire breaks). Ivy being so waxy survives glyphosate but it doesn't last long in a fire. Thanks to all. Unfortunately I can't have a fire where the brambles and ivy are groeing. The overgrown yard is surrounded by buildings. I'll have to cart the stuff away and either compost it or burn it on my own property which is more rural - or I could dump the lot at the council tip which is nearer to the yard. Shredding it would make it easier to cart away. It means I can cart it all away in perhaps three vanloads insted of ten (I'm guessing). The volume will certainly be enough to compost hot then. Seems a shame to take it to the council tip in a van where you will be hit for trade waste charges if you could compost it for your own use. I wouldn't even consider using it as a mulch without composting first though! You will be surprised how fast it goes in 2m loose filled cubes. After a couple of days you will smell a strange stale low molecular weight fatty acids and the core temperature should go up to 60-70C. Don't do it too close to your house - hot composting can sometimes run away. I have had one go to smouldering internally once. After the first week just move the outer bits inwards if it doesn't collapse of its own accord. Be ready to use in in spring next year if you do it right. I am pretty lazy about turning compost properly and have discovered that it really doesn't make all that much difference. The key is to add a lot of material at one time and make sure there is plenty of air in the mix. Anything not properly rotted down when I come to use it ends up in the bottom of the next heap. I have three used cyclically. If you are superstitious then a bit of proprietory accelerator like Garotta will get the stuff off to an even quicker start. I have not found it necessary with large amounts of material YMMV. Regards, Martin Brown |
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Gordon H wrote in
: I've lived in a smokeless zone since they were first introduced, but there were exemptions made a) for 30 minutes initial firing up of furnaces etc, and b) occasional burning of garden rubbish. Has that been changed, or are yours local byelaws? Good question. I just know that a few years ago a workmate was reported by a nosy neighbour for having a small bonfire and was hauled into court and fined. Surprisingly permission is required even on Nov5th. Baz |
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Would this composting idea give me problems?
On 12/10/2010 10:24, Janet wrote:
In , says... You will be surprised how fast it goes in 2m loose filled cubes. You reminded me, it's useful to get hold of those cubic-metre strong woven sacks with handles for mechanical lifters, that sand and building materials are delivered in. The sacks used to be returnable but no longer are allowed for re-use, so builders give them away. We use them for transporting garden material. I think the OP could do so too with considerable advantage. Regards, Martin Brown |
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Would this composting idea give me problems?
"AL_n" wrote in message ... Martin Brown wrote in news If you stack it in heaps about 2m on a side and keep damp then it won't matter too much - the stuff will quickly heat up internally and rot down. I would not spread the stuff around without first composting it. Both ivy and bramble will regrow from fairly small pieces. Are you sure you want to move this sort of bulk material around? Might be a lot easier to compost it in situ (or burn) and take the ash as fertiliser. Clearing bramble, nettle, ivy scrubland I tend to favour a hit of glyphosate followed a few weeks later by torching it when tinder dry (putting in appropriate fire breaks). Ivy being so waxy survives glyphosate but it doesn't last long in a fire. Regards, Martin Brown Thanks to all. Unfortunately I can't have a fire where the brambles and ivy are groeing. The overgrown yard is surrounded by buildings. I'll have to cart the stuff away and either compost it or burn it on my own property which is more rural - or I could dump the lot at the council tip which is nearer to the yard. Shredding it would make it easier to cart away. It means I can cart it all away in perhaps three vanloads insted of ten (I'm guessing). Al Council re-cycling dumps usually prohibit the dumping of "invasive" plants! Bill |
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Would this composting idea give me problems?
Martin Brown wrote in news:m4Wso.5318
: On 12/10/2010 10:24, Janet wrote: In , says... You will be surprised how fast it goes in 2m loose filled cubes. You reminded me, it's useful to get hold of those cubic-metre strong woven sacks with handles for mechanical lifters, that sand and building materials are delivered in. The sacks used to be returnable but no longer are allowed for re-use, so builders give them away. We use them for transporting garden material. I think the OP could do so too with considerable advantage. Regards, Martin Brown Thanks to Janet for the suggestion. My friend suggested those too, but if you mean those really big bags that the builders' merchants deliver loose material in, they are too big to get off the premises when full. We're going to have to use lots of rubble bags (the dustbin-sized ones, I think. As we have to hail them up a narrow alley to get to the van. They'll be easier to hoik into the van, too. An'd easier to get out, single-handed at the other end. Yes, I do think I'll make use of the chippings. I'm going to buy a shredder. It will pay for itself just on this job alone, I think. Al |
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Would this composting idea give me problems?
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Janet writes In article , says... Council re-cycling dumps usually prohibit the dumping of "invasive" plants! I thought that was just Japanese Knot Weed? Janet Anything I don't or can't shred goes into my brown bin. They even say we can put kitchen waste in it now, but I don't, nor would I buy compost from the council. Yukk! -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply |
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Would this composting idea give me problems?
On 13/10/2010 12:14, Gordon H wrote:
In message , Janet writes In article , says... Council re-cycling dumps usually prohibit the dumping of "invasive" plants! I thought that was just Japanese Knot Weed? Janet Anything I don't or can't shred goes into my brown bin. They even say we can put kitchen waste in it now, but I don't, nor would I buy compost from the council. Yukk! Depends on the kitchen waste - veg peelings and egg shells are OK. I compost more stuff than our council allows in green bins and use my green bin for composting leaves for leaf mould (which takes two years). I would never put fat or meat on the compost heap it encourages vermin. Weird useless factoid. Salford's "green" bins are shocking pink! Regards, Martin Brown |
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Would this composting idea give me problems?
In message , Martin Brown
writes On 13/10/2010 12:14, Gordon H wrote: Anything I don't or can't shred goes into my brown bin. They even say we can put kitchen waste in it now, but I don't, nor would I buy compost from the council. Yukk! Depends on the kitchen waste - veg peelings and egg shells are OK. I compost more stuff than our council allows in green bins and use my green bin for composting leaves for leaf mould (which takes two years). I would never put fat or meat on the compost heap it encourages vermin. But what would others do?... Weird useless factoid. Salford's "green" bins are shocking pink! They didn't think it through, did they? Black bins - been around for years here Blue bins - for paper, now plus cardboard Green bins - bottles, certain plastics, cans All very fine, then along came the brown bins.... -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply |
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Would this composting idea give me problems?
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Janet writes In article , says... Council re-cycling dumps usually prohibit the dumping of "invasive" plants! I thought that was just Japanese Knot Weed? Janet I took a walk round a National Trust garden a while ago, (Quarry Bank Mill) and saw two or three JKW plants in a shrub bed. I remarked to the lady on the gate that I was surprised to see them included, and she didn't know they were there! -- Gordon H Remove "invalid" to reply |
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Would this composting idea give me problems?
Gordon H wrote:
Weird useless factoid. Salford's "green" bins are shocking pink! They didn't think it through, did they? Black bins - been around for years here Blue bins - for paper, now plus cardboard Green bins - bottles, certain plastics, cans All very fine, then along came the brown bins.... In Liverpool the bins are purple. I think that that is the 'rubbish' bin, but I'm not sure. |
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Would this composting idea give me problems?
Martin Brown wrote:
On 13/10/2010 12:14, Gordon H wrote: In message , Janet writes In article , says... Council re-cycling dumps usually prohibit the dumping of "invasive" plants! I thought that was just Japanese Knot Weed? Janet Anything I don't or can't shred goes into my brown bin. They even say we can put kitchen waste in it now, but I don't, nor would I buy compost from the council. Yukk! Depends on the kitchen waste - veg peelings and egg shells are OK. I compost more stuff than our council allows in green bins and use my green bin for composting leaves for leaf mould (which takes two years). I would never put fat or meat on the compost heap it encourages vermin. Weird useless factoid. Salford's "green" bins are shocking pink! And South Norfolk's are brown. -- Rusty |
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