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I am about to buy a conifer as the other gave up the chase.If I go to the
local garden centre what should I be asking for.Where its going it as sun in
the afternoon. I recently changed the garden (re- turfed ) So what do I need
and is there any hidden danger I should look out for

TIA

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I am about to buy a conifer as the other gave up the chase.If I go to the
local garden centre what should I be asking for.Where its going it as sun
in the afternoon. I recently changed the garden (re- turfed ) So what do I
need and is there any hidden danger I should look out for

TIA

Ste


Mark the spot where you intend to plant it, measure 15' in all directions,
if you have the space to lose that much garden go ahead, if not then the
conifer must be one you can reduce in size in future years without ending up
with an unsightly brown mess


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and Lapageria rosea cvs
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when is the best time to plant one

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"Stephen" wrote in message
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I am about to buy a conifer as the other gave up the chase.If I go to the
local garden centre what should I be asking for.Where its going it as sun
in the afternoon. I recently changed the garden (re- turfed ) So what do I
need and is there any hidden danger I should look out for

TIA

Ste


Mark the spot where you intend to plant it, measure 15' in all directions,
if you have the space to lose that much garden go ahead, if not then the
conifer must be one you can reduce in size in future years without ending
up with an unsightly brown mess


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Charlie, Gardening in Cornwall
Holders of National Collections of Clematis viticella
and Lapageria rosea cvs
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk



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thanks for the advice. this a NG and that is precisely what its for. My
other conifer died because we had moved it, so conifers look like a
temperamental bush. They do not take up allot of space and its perfect for
the space I have for it. I just wanted advice, in which these NG are made
for?
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On 2011-08-27 18:32:57 +0100, "Stephen" said:

when is the best time to plant one

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"Stephen" wrote in message
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I am about to buy a conifer as the other gave up the chase.If I go to
the
local garden centre what should I be asking for.Where its going it as
sun
in the afternoon. I recently changed the garden (re- turfed ) So what
do I
need and is there any hidden danger I should look out for

TIA

Ste


Mark the spot where you intend to plant it, measure 15' in all
directions,
if you have the space to lose that much garden go ahead, if not then the
conifer must be one you can reduce in size in future years without
ending
up with an unsightly brown mess


--
Charlie, Gardening in Cornwall
Holders of National Collections of Clematis viticella
and Lapageria rosea cvs
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk


Stephen you've been given some good advice and have
been asked a pertinent question. You've ignored both so the rest is up to
you. This isn't an advice bureau. If you *really* need to ask when is a
good time to plant a container-grown plant that will take over several
feet of your garden, in which a similar plant has died, you should,
perhaps, be asking yourself if you're wise in planting a conifer at all.
I mean this in the nicest possible way. I don't think you know what
you're getting yourself into so perhaps you should consider your options.
The hidden dangers with many conifers is that they take up a large amount
of space and few other plants, if any, grow under or near them. Your
choice, of course.
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On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 19:24:03 +0100, "Stephen"
wrote:

thanks for the advice. this a NG and that is precisely what its for. My
other conifer died because we had moved it, so conifers look like a
temperamental bush. They do not take up allot of space and its perfect for
the space I have for it. I just wanted advice, in which these NG are made
for?
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On 2011-08-27 18:32:57 +0100, "Stephen" said:

when is the best time to plant one

"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message
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"Stephen" wrote in message
...
I am about to buy a conifer as the other gave up the chase.If I go to
the
local garden centre what should I be asking for.Where its going it as
sun
in the afternoon. I recently changed the garden (re- turfed ) So what
do I
need and is there any hidden danger I should look out for

TIA

Ste


Mark the spot where you intend to plant it, measure 15' in all
directions,
if you have the space to lose that much garden go ahead, if not then the
conifer must be one you can reduce in size in future years without
ending
up with an unsightly brown mess


--
Charlie, Gardening in Cornwall
Holders of National Collections of Clematis viticella
and Lapageria rosea cvs
http://www.roselandhouse.co.uk


Stephen you've been given some good advice and have
been asked a pertinent question. You've ignored both so the rest is up to
you. This isn't an advice bureau. If you *really* need to ask when is a
good time to plant a container-grown plant that will take over several
feet of your garden, in which a similar plant has died, you should,
perhaps, be asking yourself if you're wise in planting a conifer at all.
I mean this in the nicest possible way. I don't think you know what
you're getting yourself into so perhaps you should consider your options.
The hidden dangers with many conifers is that they take up a large amount
of space and few other plants, if any, grow under or near them. Your
choice, of course.
--
Sacha
www.hillhousenursery.com
South Devon



Clearly you have not read the advice offered. And, incidentally, it's
bad manners to post at the top of earlier messages. You should post at
the bottom.

You say "They do not take up a lot of space" - clearly ignoring
Charlie's advice. Last year I spent days, plus a lot of money hiring
kit, to remove a "dwarf" conifer that was about 20 feet across and
about 35 high. It was, I believe, about 15 years old. Leylandii will
easily be about 20 feet tall and 8-10 across in 10 years if you don't
keep them under control.

It's obvious you are going to do whatever it is you want so there is
little point in any of us helping you.

Good luck!

Cheers
Jake
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in between reading anything by JRR Tolkien.

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On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 20:04:53 +0100, Jake Nospam@invalid wrote:

On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 19:24:03 +0100, "Stephen"
wrote:

thanks for the advice. this a NG and that is precisely what its for. My
other conifer died because we had moved it, so conifers look like a
temperamental bush. They do not take up allot of space and its perfect for
the space I have for it. I just wanted advice, in which these NG are made
for?

pruned


Clearly you have not read the advice offered. And, incidentally, it's
bad manners to post at the top of earlier messages. You should post at
the bottom.

You say "They do not take up a lot of space" - clearly ignoring
Charlie's advice. Last year I spent days, plus a lot of money hiring
kit, to remove a "dwarf" conifer that was about 20 feet across and
about 35 high. It was, I believe, about 15 years old. Leylandii will
easily be about 20 feet tall and 8-10 across in 10 years if you don't
keep them under control.

It's obvious you are going to do whatever it is you want so there is
little point in any of us helping you.

And I forgot to mention - conifers are trees, not bushes.

Cheers
Jake
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Gardening at the dry end (east) of Swansea Bay
in between reading anything by JRR Tolkien.

www.rivendell.org.uk
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thanks for the advice. this a NG and that is precisely what its for. My
other conifer died because we had moved it, so conifers look like a
temperamental bush. They do not take up allot of space and its perfect for
the space I have for it. I just wanted advice, in which these NG are made
for?
No, actually newsgroups are for discussion, in this case, discussion about gardening in the UK.

Conifer means "cone bearing" - it's a shorthand for a large number of families containing hundreds of types of tree of all shapes and sizes, most, though not all, of which bear cones. To say "conifers look like a temperamental bush" is about the equivalent of saying "bedding plants have blue flowers" just because the one you happened to have had blue flowers.

Reading between the lines, you seem to be saying that you want to replace the conifer you had with another one the same. But unless we know what it was you had we can't advise you!
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thanks for the advice. this a NG and that is precisely what its for. My
other conifer died because we had moved it, so conifers look like a
temperamental bush. They do not take up allot of space and its perfect for
the space I have for it. I just wanted advice, in which these NG are made
for?

It wouldn't take up a lot of space if it had died young Stephen.
Conifers do grow very big, there aren't many that given several years,
won't take over the garden! How much space do you have available for the
plant, do you want it to screen something or just to actually fill a
blank hole in your flower beds?

There are lots of nice evergreen shrubs and trees as well.
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"Jake" wrote:

You say "They do not take up a lot of space" - clearly ignoring
Charlie's advice. Last year I spent days, plus a lot of money hiring
kit, to remove a "dwarf" conifer that was about 20 feet across and
about 35 high. It was, I believe, about 15 years old. Leylandii will
easily be about 20 feet tall and 8-10 across in 10 years if you don't
keep them under control.


My garden is ringed by conifer hedges and I detest them. Some are mine,
most belong to neighbours. I lose two days of my life every year trimming
them back so they don't take over my garden and cutting the tops so I still
get some daylight.

I think conifers are best trimmed with a chainsaw just above ground level
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"Jake" wrote:

You say "They do not take up a lot of space" - clearly ignoring
Charlie's advice. Last year I spent days, plus a lot of money hiring
kit, to remove a "dwarf" conifer that was about 20 feet across and
about 35 high. It was, I believe, about 15 years old. Leylandii will
easily be about 20 feet tall and 8-10 across in 10 years if you don't
keep them under control.


My garden is ringed by conifer hedges and I detest them. Some are mine,
most belong to neighbours. I lose two days of my life every year trimming
them back so they don't take over my garden and cutting the tops so I
still get some daylight.

I think conifers are best trimmed with a chainsaw just above ground level
;-)
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About 4 ft above ground level ;-))

Then dig round the roots, clear all the soil away, and use the 4 ft to
'lever' it out ;-)
(For 'it' read 'them' if appropriate)

Mike

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My garden is ringed by conifer hedges and I detest them. Some are mine,
most belong to neighbours. I lose two days of my life every year trimming
them back so they don't take over my garden and cutting the tops so I still
get some daylight.

I think conifers are best trimmed with a chainsaw just above ground level
Depends on the conifer, doesn't it? I have a conifer in my front garden with beautiful blue green foliage which is still only 2ft high after 15 years. And every year if produces a crop of rich purplish fir cones.
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