Hello all,

I was wondering what other people are using to order seed online.

I am thinking of ordering from:

www.mr-fothergills.co.uk

They offer good value for money and dont charge any P&P for delivery.

Would like more opinions etc on what the rest of you guys use.

Cheers

"dommy" wrote in message
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Hello all,

I was wondering what other people are using to order seed online.

I am thinking of ordering from:

www.mr-fothergills.co.uk

They offer good value for money and dont charge any P&P for delivery.

Would like more opinions etc on what the rest of you guys use.

The rest of us guys don't use an organisation like Gardenbanter, with an axe
to grind, to participate in uk.rec.gardening. We joined this newsgroup
directly in order to ensure unmoderated mail. There is a non zero
probability that these remarks of mine will not appear in Gardenbanter.

Franz

sorry I dont understand what you mean? Can you elaborate please.

I'm new to growing veg but I have just received an order from
http://www.nickys-nursery.co.uk/
They were very quick, I sent a cheque and received the order about 4 days later!
Each pack of seeds came with a plant label and they e-mailed me to ask if I got the delivery ok which was a nice touch.

Having not grown the seeds I can't verify the quality but I went on price and the fact that the web site was easy to deal with.

"dommy" wrote in message
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Franz Heymann wrote:
*"dommy" wrote in message
s.com...
Hello all,

I was wondering what other people are using to order seed online.

I am thinking of ordering from:

www.mr-fothergills.co.uk

They offer good value for money and dont charge any P&P for
delivery.

Would like more opinions etc on what the rest of you guys use.

The rest of us guys don't use an organisation like Gardenbanter, with
an axe
to grind, to participate in uk.rec.gardening. We joined this
newsgroup
directly in order to ensure unmoderated mail. There is a non zero
probability that these remarks of mine will not appear in
Gardenbanter.

Franz *

sorry I dont understand what you mean? Can you elaborate please.


You accessed this newsgroup via gardenbanter. Gardenbanter is a commercial
website. It makes money out of advertisements. The potential advertisers
judge whether or not to advertise there by the rate at which people access
the site. So, to boost their standing, the site runs a gateway to
uk.rec.gardening, resulting in everyone who uses them to access
uk.rec.gardening registering a hit at the site. Since it is a commercial
site, there is no guarantee that post intended via them is not moderated or
censured in either direction. There is also no guarantee that the whole of
the activity in uk.rec.gardening is available at that site. I am also
uncertain of whether there may be time delays before post to and from
gardenbanter arrives at its destination.
It is much more straightforward to join uk.rec.gardening directly.
In short, you gain absolutely nothing whatsoever by participating via
gardenbanter and you may possibly lose something.

Franz

"Franz Heymann" wrote in
:

Since it is a commercial
site, there is no guarantee that post intended via them is not
moderated or censured in either direction. There is also no guarantee
that the whole of the activity in uk.rec.gardening is available at
that site.

That isn't guaranteed to anyone. Most usenet posters access via commercial
ISPs, all of whom would happily make money out of usenet if they could
think how, and who will censor posts and posters that might otherwise prove
expensive to them.

Even Google's usenet archives display advertising. It costs money to
provide information : someone has to pay for it: a lesson that Deja News
learnt too slowly.

If gardenbanter really has someone sitting there reading and moderating
every post from urg by hand, they will either be going bust shortly, or
they are run out of someone's back bedroom, more for fun than profit.

There is nothing wrong or inferior about web-based interfaces. I don't
care for 'em much myself, but some people prefer them.

Same as pink hydrangeas. ;-)

Victoria
--
Clare Associates Ltd
http://www.clareassoc.co.uk/
01822 835802
--

(Jim W) wrote in
news:1g0kqpm.1ddqdya102vfq8N%00senetnospamtodayta@ macunlimited.net:

dommy wrote:

Hello all,

I was wondering what other people are using to order seed online.

I am thinking of ordering from:

www.mr-fothergills.co.uk


Hey Dommy,

Welocme to URG!-) You found you're way here from 'edible' then;-)

I'll reiterate what I said befo
http://directory.google.com/Top/Regi...Kingdom/Busine
s
s _and_Economy/Shopping/Home_and_Garden/Gardens/Plants/Seeds/

Just so you know, that list is a copy of
http://dmoz.org/Regional/Europe/Unit...d_Economy/Shop
p
ing/Home_and_Garden/Gardens/Plants/Seeds/

The Google version is often several months out of date, so you might
want to bookmark the original.

Any new suggestions, please let me know!

Victoria

--
gardening on a north-facing hill
in South-East Cornwall
--

Im sorry Franz, i have absolutly no idea what you are on about. All I wanted to know about was online seed companies.

So back to the topic, which companies do you use/recomend etc.

(Jim W) wrote in
news:1g0m5ua.3oavy517lc5g8N%00senetnospamtodayta@m acunlimited.net:


Victoria

Yes, google does get catalogue the DMOZ directory its true.. However I
don't remember many long standing seed companies changing they're URL
every couple of months?? It'd be bad for business!-)

I am volunteer editor of the parent /gardens category.

Most of the established ones stay put. But when it comes to the smaller
providers, you do get new ones popping up, and older sites vanishing quite
regularly. Only today I removed one that had died from the parent
'plants' category, for example, and last month I realised that Thompson and
Morgan weren't listed in /seeds (oops!)- they still aren't in the Google
listing.

In February, Chiltern seeds changed its shop technology so their link no
longer worked. It was noticed and fixed at Dmoz, but Google took a lot
longer.

Google's database was almost a year old earlier this year (it's a bit
better now), and the broken links were starting to be quite embarrassing,
so I have been pointing people at the Dmoz list for preference.

Victoria
--
gardening on a north-facing hill
in South-East Cornwall
--

On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:21:57 GMT, dommy
wrote:

~Hello all,
~
~I was wondering what other people are using to order seed online.
~
~I am thinking of ordering from:
~
~www.mr-fothergills.co.uk
~
~They offer good value for money and dont charge any P&P for delivery.
~
~Would like more opinions etc on what the rest of you guys use.
~
~Cheers
~--
~dommy

My listing of suppliers online, with comments as I've currently got on
my website is:

http://www.mr-fothergills.co.uk/
An old seed firm, still available in garden centres but not too common
now. Large range of varieties.
http://www.unwins-seeds.co.uk/supplier_search.asp
Another long-established firm. No web ordering, but does give listings
of stockists. Cheap and cheerful. Does mail order and are very
friendly.
http://www.thompson-morgan.com/seeds/uk/index.html
First of the Big Two. Wider range, but more expensive, probably to
subsidise the greater stocks.
http://www.suttons-seeds.co.uk/index.html
The other one :-) Easiest to find in garden centres so don't bother
with mail order unless you want something really obscure.
http://www.dobies.co.uk
Part of Suttons - they definitely have identical catalogues for plug
plants.

Smaller and more specialist firms
http://www.dtbrownseeds.co.uk/
This firm sells virtually identical stock to Suttons at about 2/3 of
the price.
http://www.vidaverde.co.uk
Totally organic smallholders who grow heritage varieties and encourage
self-sufficiency. They do not grow anything that will not generally
come true to saved seed assuming no cross pollination! Priceless.
http://www.marshalls-seeds.co.uk/
Main suppliers for fruit trees, potatoes and other veg. for half the
allotmenteers on my site! They did do web ordering last year, but it´s
vanished again, sadly. May be on the way back as the website is
currently being redesigned.
http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~nfarl...etty/etty.html
Heritage seeds. Some things you can´t get anywhere else.
http://www.seedsofitaly.sagenet.co.uk/default.htm
Franchi seeds, huge packets with even huger numbers of seeds in each.
Very good value and the seeds arrive promptly.
http://www.eaglenursery.co.uk/seed%20list.htm
Sweet peas. I´m not a competition grower, I just think they cheer up
the house. And they smell wonderful
http://www.lathyrus.com
Owl's Acre Sweet peas. Yet more Sweet Peas.
http://www.gardenerskitchen.co.uk/
This is the firm that grows all those strips of vegetables you buy in
garden centres after something´s eaten your own seedlings. They use
commercial varieties, but are happy to answer questions on where to
get seed!
Diane Sewell sweet peas: - if anyone finds she´s finally got a website
before I do, please let me know!

Out of 28 veg. seed varieties I bought this year, 3 were Unwins, 8
Suttons', 7 T&M, 7 DTBrown, 2 Marshall's, 1 Franchi. That's not
including the flowers, which usually come off an Amateur gardening
magazine and so are T&M.

Hope this helps a bit!
jane wanders off trying to remember why on earth she grew so much...


--
jane

Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone,
you may still exist but you have ceased to live.
Mark Twain

Please remove onmaps from replies, thanks!

wrote in message
...
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:21:57 GMT, dommy
wrote:

~Hello all,
~
~I was wondering what other people are using to order seed online.
~
~I am thinking of ordering from:
~
~www.mr-fothergills.co.uk
~
~They offer good value for money and dont charge any P&P for delivery.
~
~Would like more opinions etc on what the rest of you guys use.
~
~Cheers
~--
~dommy

My listing of suppliers online, with comments as I've currently got on
my website is:

http://www.mr-fothergills.co.uk/
An old seed firm, still available in garden centres but not too common
now. Large range of varieties.
http://www.unwins-seeds.co.uk/supplier_search.asp
Another long-established firm. No web ordering, but does give listings
of stockists. Cheap and cheerful. Does mail order and are very
friendly.
http://www.thompson-morgan.com/seeds/uk/index.html
First of the Big Two. Wider range, but more expensive, probably to
subsidise the greater stocks.
http://www.suttons-seeds.co.uk/index.html
The other one :-) Easiest to find in garden centres so don't bother
with mail order unless you want something really obscure.
http://www.dobies.co.uk
Part of Suttons - they definitely have identical catalogues for plug
plants.

Smaller and more specialist firms
http://www.dtbrownseeds.co.uk/
This firm sells virtually identical stock to Suttons at about 2/3 of
the price.
http://www.vidaverde.co.uk
Totally organic smallholders who grow heritage varieties and encourage
self-sufficiency. They do not grow anything that will not generally
come true to saved seed assuming no cross pollination! Priceless.
http://www.marshalls-seeds.co.uk/
Main suppliers for fruit trees, potatoes and other veg. for half the
allotmenteers on my site! They did do web ordering last year, but it´s
vanished again, sadly. May be on the way back as the website is
currently being redesigned.
http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~nfarl...etty/etty.html
Heritage seeds. Some things you can´t get anywhere else.
http://www.seedsofitaly.sagenet.co.uk/default.htm
Franchi seeds, huge packets with even huger numbers of seeds in each.
Very good value and the seeds arrive promptly.
http://www.eaglenursery.co.uk/seed%20list.htm
Sweet peas. I´m not a competition grower, I just think they cheer up
the house. And they smell wonderful
http://www.lathyrus.com
Owl's Acre Sweet peas. Yet more Sweet Peas.
http://www.gardenerskitchen.co.uk/
This is the firm that grows all those strips of vegetables you buy in
garden centres after something´s eaten your own seedlings. They use
commercial varieties, but are happy to answer questions on where to
get seed!
Diane Sewell sweet peas: - if anyone finds she´s finally got a website
before I do, please let me know!

Out of 28 veg. seed varieties I bought this year, 3 were Unwins, 8
Suttons', 7 T&M, 7 DTBrown, 2 Marshall's, 1 Franchi. That's not
including the flowers, which usually come off an Amateur gardening
magazine and so are T&M.

Hope this helps a bit!
jane wanders off trying to remember why on earth she grew so much...


--
jane

Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone,
you may still exist but you have ceased to live.
Mark Twain

Please remove onmaps from replies, thanks!

What a comprehansive reply - I was just browsing and came across this gem.
Many thanks, they are all now in my "favorites".

Peter.

Thanks very much for the reply Jane. Very detailed and very helpful. Thanks once again, very much appreciated.

In article , nmaps
on.co.uk writes

My listing of suppliers online, with comments as I've currently got on
my website is:

But you haven't got Chilterns!!!
;-)

http://www.mr-fothergills.co.uk/
An old seed firm, still available in garden centres but not too common
now. Large range of varieties.
http://www.unwins-seeds.co.uk/supplier_search.asp
Another long-established firm. No web ordering, but does give listings
of stockists. Cheap and cheerful. Does mail order and are very
friendly.
http://www.thompson-morgan.com/seeds/uk/index.html
First of the Big Two. Wider range, but more expensive, probably to
subsidise the greater stocks.
http://www.suttons-seeds.co.uk/index.html
The other one :-) Easiest to find in garden centres so don't bother
with mail order unless you want something really obscure.
http://www.dobies.co.uk
Part of Suttons - they definitely have identical catalogues for plug
plants.

Smaller and more specialist firms
http://www.dtbrownseeds.co.uk/
This firm sells virtually identical stock to Suttons at about 2/3 of
the price.
http://www.vidaverde.co.uk
Totally organic smallholders who grow heritage varieties and encourage
self-sufficiency. They do not grow anything that will not generally
come true to saved seed assuming no cross pollination! Priceless.
http://www.marshalls-seeds.co.uk/
Main suppliers for fruit trees, potatoes and other veg. for half the
allotmenteers on my site! They did do web ordering last year, but it´s
vanished again, sadly. May be on the way back as the website is
currently being redesigned.
http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~nfarl...etty/etty.html
Heritage seeds. Some things you can´t get anywhere else.
http://www.seedsofitaly.sagenet.co.uk/default.htm
Franchi seeds, huge packets with even huger numbers of seeds in each.
Very good value and the seeds arrive promptly.
http://www.eaglenursery.co.uk/seed%20list.htm
Sweet peas. I´m not a competition grower, I just think they cheer up
the house. And they smell wonderful
http://www.lathyrus.com
Owl's Acre Sweet peas. Yet more Sweet Peas.
http://www.gardenerskitchen.co.uk/
This is the firm that grows all those strips of vegetables you buy in
garden centres after something´s eaten your own seedlings. They use
commercial varieties, but are happy to answer questions on where to
get seed!
Diane Sewell sweet peas: - if anyone finds she´s finally got a website
before I do, please let me know!

Out of 28 veg. seed varieties I bought this year, 3 were Unwins, 8
Suttons', 7 T&M, 7 DTBrown, 2 Marshall's, 1 Franchi. That's not
including the flowers, which usually come off an Amateur gardening
magazine and so are T&M.

Hope this helps a bit!
jane wanders off trying to remember why on earth she grew so much...



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Franz Heymann wrote:
: "dommy" wrote in message
: s.com...
:: Hello all,
::
:: I was wondering what other people are using to order seed online.
::
:: I am thinking of ordering from:
::
:: www.mr-fothergills.co.uk
::
:: They offer good value for money and dont charge any P&P for delivery.
::
:: Would like more opinions etc on what the rest of you guys use.
::
: The rest of us guys don't use an organisation like Gardenbanter, with
: an axe to grind, to participate in uk.rec.gardening. We joined this
: newsgroup directly in order to ensure unmoderated mail. There is a
: non zero probability that these remarks of mine will not appear in
: Gardenbanter.
:
: Franz

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