Kay Easton wrote in message
You are overstating. There are many well maintained lleylandii round
our
area. It is wrong to say 'this rarely happens'.

I'm sorry you have had a bad experience. But just because you have had
a
bad experience doesn't mean to say everyone should be banned from
having
leylandii.

Perhaps but it is often the fact that the original owner keeps it under
control, then the house is sold, and the new owners may not know the
potential problems with leylandii, and let it grow for a season without
trimming it because they are too busy with the house, then you have a
hedge that has grown 4 feet, and is becoming a nuisance. Also leylandii
is very unforgiving for novices, and it can easily be cut back too far,
thus causing a hedge with brown sides, instead of the green. Almost all
other hedges will take very severe trimming with no ill effect, and
some even relish that.

When I moved into my house it had 20, 30ft+ leylandii round its
boundary, the ones in the front I am not allowed to remove, but have had
them cut down at considerable expense. The rest I cut down.

Mike
www.british-naturism.org.uk

In article , Michael
Berridge writes

Kay Easton wrote in message
You are overstating. There are many well maintained lleylandii round
our
area. It is wrong to say 'this rarely happens'.

I'm sorry you have had a bad experience. But just because you have had
a
bad experience doesn't mean to say everyone should be banned from
having
leylandii.

Perhaps but it is often the fact that the original owner keeps it under
control, then the house is sold, and the new owners may not know the
potential problems with leylandii, and let it grow for a season without
trimming it because they are too busy with the house, then you have a
hedge that has grown 4 feet, and is becoming a nuisance. Also leylandii
is very unforgiving for novices, and it can easily be cut back too far,
thus causing a hedge with brown sides, instead of the green. Almost all
other hedges will take very severe trimming with no ill effect, and
some even relish that.
When I moved into my house it had 20, 30ft+ leylandii round its
boundary, the ones in the front I am not allowed to remove, but have had
them cut down at considerable expense. The rest I cut down.

You obviously took this into account when you bought the house so what's
the problem? We all buy houses and change something or other, if you
didn't take the cost into account then its more fool you. In your case
you've done the opposite of what you highlighted as a problem
--
David

Michael Berridge wrote:
Sad Sid wrote in message ...
My neighbour to the West has a "traditional" mixed hedge which he
is
forever
trimming. Despite this it is full of bramble, bindweed and
nettle.


Which is the more wildlife friendly I wonder? ;-)

The unsightly mess, without a doubt. Slugs, in particular, live
there in vast numbers.

They may very well live there, but then so also will their
predators,
Leylandii has little going for it for wildlife ........

............... That's a bit of a sweeping statement. Every environment
will provide a niche for some of nature's enterprising species. The
Juniper Shield bug favours leylandii, feeding off smaller insects
which colonise the bark. If you ever wonder where the ladybirds have
gone, have a look in the top of leylandii. I'm sure they are not just
sun bathing!!
And my leylandii do not grow in isolation. They have there own diverse
under brush, just like other hedges.
There is room for every species. Even the midge. Although some
'naturists' might have a bias against that, as well. ;-)

--
ned

Michael Berridge wrote:
Sad Sid wrote in message ...
My neighbour to the West has a "traditional" mixed hedge which he
is
forever
trimming. Despite this it is full of bramble, bindweed and
nettle.


Which is the more wildlife friendly I wonder? ;-)

The unsightly mess, without a doubt. Slugs, in particular, live
there in vast numbers.

They may very well live there, but then so also will their
predators,
Leylandii has little going for it for wildlife ........

............... That's a bit of a sweeping statement. Every environment
will provide a niche for some of nature's enterprising species. The
Juniper Shield bug favours leylandii, feeding off smaller insects
which colonise the bark. If you ever wonder where the ladybirds have
gone, have a look in the top of leylandii. I'm sure they are not just
sun bathing!!
And my leylandii do not grow in isolation. They have there own diverse
under brush, just like other hedges.
There is room for every species. Even the midge. Although some
'naturists' might have a bias against that, as well. ;-)

--
ned

ned wrote in message
...
Michael Berridge wrote:
Sad Sid wrote in message ...
My neighbour to the West has a "traditional" mixed hedge which he
is
forever
trimming. Despite this it is full of bramble, bindweed and
nettle.


Which is the more wildlife friendly I wonder? ;-)

The unsightly mess, without a doubt. Slugs, in particular, live
there in vast numbers.

They may very well live there, but then so also will their
predators,
Leylandii has little going for it for wildlife ........

.............. That's a bit of a sweeping statement. Every environment
will provide a niche for some of nature's enterprising species. The
Juniper Shield bug favours leylandii, feeding off smaller insects
which colonise the bark. If you ever wonder where the ladybirds have
gone, have a look in the top of leylandii. I'm sure they are not just
sun bathing!!
And my leylandii do not grow in isolation. They have there own diverse
under brush, just like other hedges.
There is room for every species. Even the midge. Although some
'naturists' might have a bias against that, as well. ;-)

--
ned


LOL sorry had to laugh :-)

ned wrote in message
...
Michael Berridge wrote:
Sad Sid wrote in message ...
My neighbour to the West has a "traditional" mixed hedge which he
is
forever
trimming. Despite this it is full of bramble, bindweed and
nettle.


Which is the more wildlife friendly I wonder? ;-)

The unsightly mess, without a doubt. Slugs, in particular, live
there in vast numbers.

They may very well live there, but then so also will their
predators,
Leylandii has little going for it for wildlife ........

.............. That's a bit of a sweeping statement. Every environment
will provide a niche for some of nature's enterprising species. The
Juniper Shield bug favours leylandii, feeding off smaller insects
which colonise the bark. If you ever wonder where the ladybirds have
gone, have a look in the top of leylandii. I'm sure they are not just
sun bathing!!
And my leylandii do not grow in isolation. They have there own diverse
under brush, just like other hedges.
There is room for every species. Even the midge. Although some
'naturists' might have a bias against that, as well. ;-)

--
ned


LOL sorry had to laugh :-)

ned wrote in message
...
Michael Berridge wrote:
Sad Sid wrote in message ...
My neighbour to the West has a "traditional" mixed hedge which he
is
forever
trimming. Despite this it is full of bramble, bindweed and
nettle.


Which is the more wildlife friendly I wonder? ;-)

The unsightly mess, without a doubt. Slugs, in particular, live
there in vast numbers.

They may very well live there, but then so also will their
predators,
Leylandii has little going for it for wildlife ........

.............. That's a bit of a sweeping statement. Every environment
will provide a niche for some of nature's enterprising species. The
Juniper Shield bug favours leylandii, feeding off smaller insects
which colonise the bark. If you ever wonder where the ladybirds have
gone, have a look in the top of leylandii. I'm sure they are not just
sun bathing!!
And my leylandii do not grow in isolation. They have there own diverse
under brush, just like other hedges.
There is room for every species. Even the midge. Although some
'naturists' might have a bias against that, as well. ;-)

--
ned


LOL sorry had to laugh :-)

ned wrote in message
...
Michael Berridge wrote:
Sad Sid wrote in message ...
My neighbour to the West has a "traditional" mixed hedge which he
is
forever
trimming. Despite this it is full of bramble, bindweed and
nettle.


Which is the more wildlife friendly I wonder? ;-)

The unsightly mess, without a doubt. Slugs, in particular, live
there in vast numbers.

They may very well live there, but then so also will their
predators,
Leylandii has little going for it for wildlife ........

.............. That's a bit of a sweeping statement. Every environment
will provide a niche for some of nature's enterprising species. The
Juniper Shield bug favours leylandii, feeding off smaller insects
which colonise the bark. If you ever wonder where the ladybirds have
gone, have a look in the top of leylandii. I'm sure they are not just
sun bathing!!
And my leylandii do not grow in isolation. They have there own diverse
under brush, just like other hedges.
There is room for every species. Even the midge. Although some
'naturists' might have a bias against that, as well. ;-)

--
ned


LOL sorry had to laugh :-)

David @chapelllhouse.demon.co.uk wrote:

In my opinion Leylandii are nothing to look at and I suppose people
buy them as a cheap option.

No its the fast growth that attracts them, they're not particularly
cheap as "hedging" plants go and FWIW I like the effect especially in
winter when everything else is brown.

Struggling a bit there aren't you?

1. they are a very cheap way of getting a quick hedge from small plants. And
size for size are much cheaper than other hedge plants as semi mature
specimens.

2. Everything else is brown? Gosh it must be cold in your part of the
country if yew, holly, laurel, and all the other less aggressively growing
conifers go brown and only leylandii stays green.

pk

David @chapelllhouse.demon.co.uk wrote:

In my opinion Leylandii are nothing to look at and I suppose people
buy them as a cheap option.

No its the fast growth that attracts them, they're not particularly
cheap as "hedging" plants go and FWIW I like the effect especially in
winter when everything else is brown.

Struggling a bit there aren't you?

1. they are a very cheap way of getting a quick hedge from small plants. And
size for size are much cheaper than other hedge plants as semi mature
specimens.

2. Everything else is brown? Gosh it must be cold in your part of the
country if yew, holly, laurel, and all the other less aggressively growing
conifers go brown and only leylandii stays green.

pk

In article , PK
writes
David @chapelllhouse.demon.co.uk wrote:

In my opinion Leylandii are nothing to look at and I suppose people
buy them as a cheap option.

No its the fast growth that attracts them, they're not particularly
cheap as "hedging" plants go and FWIW I like the effect especially in
winter when everything else is brown.

Struggling a bit there aren't you?

1. they are a very cheap way of getting a quick hedge from small plants. And
size for size are much cheaper than other hedge plants as semi mature
specimens.

I stand by my statement that people buy them for the fast growth not
because they're cheap and besides, mixed British you can grow from
cuttings, you can't get cheaper than that surely so my other assurance
about them not being particularly cheap stands as well, its you that has
mentioned size for size.

2. Everything else is brown? Gosh it must be cold in your part of the
country if yew, holly, laurel, and all the other less aggressively growing
conifers go brown and only leylandii stays green.

It was a general statement Paul, but I suppose if you're inclined we
could list everything that doesn't brown in winter...
--
David