Soup just had to say
On 17 Mar 2004 01:11:06 -0800,
(Campbell Thompson) wrote:
snip
Some
forms of Holly (delve deeply - it's a huge and varied genus) would fit
your bill.

Be very careful of holly ,if the neighbours or indeed yourself has or are
likely to have children, holly leaves can be quite 'prickly'. Next door
put up a fence to keep our (inherited) holly hedge at bay, hated it with
a passion so eventually I removed it ,took me two days too cut the foliage
from the trunks,had been growing for thirty odd years so the root system
was very 'mature' took me two days too dig the roots out four days in
all just to remove a hedge. Maybe if the hedge had been kept on top
of with regard to pruning and thinning out might have been nicer, but
overgrown and dangerous as it was it had to go.

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Soup just had to say
On 17 Mar 2004 01:11:06 -0800,
(Campbell Thompson) wrote:
snip
Some
forms of Holly (delve deeply - it's a huge and varied genus) would fit
your bill.

Be very careful of holly ,if the neighbours or indeed yourself has or are
likely to have children, holly leaves can be quite 'prickly'. Next door
put up a fence to keep our (inherited) holly hedge at bay, hated it with
a passion so eventually I removed it ,took me two days too cut the foliage
from the trunks,had been growing for thirty odd years so the root system
was very 'mature' took me two days too dig the roots out four days in
all just to remove a hedge. Maybe if the hedge had been kept on top
of with regard to pruning and thinning out might have been nicer, but
overgrown and dangerous as it was it had to go.

--
Yours S. addy not usable (not that you would try it) ( )
Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant! / \
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Soup wrote:
Soup just had to say

On 17 Mar 2004 01:11:06 -0800,
(Campbell Thompson) wrote:

snip

Some
forms of Holly (delve deeply - it's a huge and varied genus) would fit
your bill.


Be very careful of holly ,if the neighbours or indeed yourself has or are
likely to have children, holly leaves can be quite 'prickly'. Next door
put up a fence to keep our (inherited) holly hedge at bay, hated it with
a passion so eventually I removed it ,took me two days too cut the foliage
from the trunks,had been growing for thirty odd years so the root system
was very 'mature' took me two days too dig the roots out four days in
all just to remove a hedge. Maybe if the hedge had been kept on top
of with regard to pruning and thinning out might have been nicer, but
overgrown and dangerous as it was it had to go.

Yes they are prickly, but holly is a natural hazard, I fell into a
nettle bed as a youngster, not a happy bunny, but I would not ban nettles.

I have a holly hedge, also beech and hawthorn, of the three the holly is
by far the easiest to maintain.

Soup wrote:
Soup just had to say

On 17 Mar 2004 01:11:06 -0800,
(Campbell Thompson) wrote:

snip

Some
forms of Holly (delve deeply - it's a huge and varied genus) would fit
your bill.


Be very careful of holly ,if the neighbours or indeed yourself has or are
likely to have children, holly leaves can be quite 'prickly'. Next door
put up a fence to keep our (inherited) holly hedge at bay, hated it with
a passion so eventually I removed it ,took me two days too cut the foliage
from the trunks,had been growing for thirty odd years so the root system
was very 'mature' took me two days too dig the roots out four days in
all just to remove a hedge. Maybe if the hedge had been kept on top
of with regard to pruning and thinning out might have been nicer, but
overgrown and dangerous as it was it had to go.

Yes they are prickly, but holly is a natural hazard, I fell into a
nettle bed as a youngster, not a happy bunny, but I would not ban nettles.

I have a holly hedge, also beech and hawthorn, of the three the holly is
by far the easiest to maintain.

Soup wrote:
Soup just had to say

On 17 Mar 2004 01:11:06 -0800,
(Campbell Thompson) wrote:

snip

Some
forms of Holly (delve deeply - it's a huge and varied genus) would fit
your bill.


Be very careful of holly ,if the neighbours or indeed yourself has or are
likely to have children, holly leaves can be quite 'prickly'. Next door
put up a fence to keep our (inherited) holly hedge at bay, hated it with
a passion so eventually I removed it ,took me two days too cut the foliage
from the trunks,had been growing for thirty odd years so the root system
was very 'mature' took me two days too dig the roots out four days in
all just to remove a hedge. Maybe if the hedge had been kept on top
of with regard to pruning and thinning out might have been nicer, but
overgrown and dangerous as it was it had to go.

Yes they are prickly, but holly is a natural hazard, I fell into a
nettle bed as a youngster, not a happy bunny, but I would not ban nettles.

I have a holly hedge, also beech and hawthorn, of the three the holly is
by far the easiest to maintain.

Soup just had to say
On 17 Mar 2004 01:11:06 -0800,
(Campbell Thompson) wrote:
snip
Some
forms of Holly (delve deeply - it's a huge and varied genus) would fit
your bill.

Be very careful of holly ,if the neighbours or indeed yourself has or are
likely to have children, holly leaves can be quite 'prickly'. Next door
put up a fence to keep our (inherited) holly hedge at bay, hated it with
a passion so eventually I removed it ,took me two days too cut the foliage
from the trunks,had been growing for thirty odd years so the root system
was very 'mature' took me two days too dig the roots out four days in
all just to remove a hedge. Maybe if the hedge had been kept on top
of with regard to pruning and thinning out might have been nicer, but
overgrown and dangerous as it was it had to go.

--
Yours S. addy not usable (not that you would try it) ( )
Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant! / \
www.killies.co.uk/forums/index.php

Soup wrote:
Soup just had to say

On 17 Mar 2004 01:11:06 -0800,
(Campbell Thompson) wrote:

snip

Some
forms of Holly (delve deeply - it's a huge and varied genus) would fit
your bill.


Be very careful of holly ,if the neighbours or indeed yourself has or are
likely to have children, holly leaves can be quite 'prickly'. Next door
put up a fence to keep our (inherited) holly hedge at bay, hated it with
a passion so eventually I removed it ,took me two days too cut the foliage
from the trunks,had been growing for thirty odd years so the root system
was very 'mature' took me two days too dig the roots out four days in
all just to remove a hedge. Maybe if the hedge had been kept on top
of with regard to pruning and thinning out might have been nicer, but
overgrown and dangerous as it was it had to go.

Yes they are prickly, but holly is a natural hazard, I fell into a
nettle bed as a youngster, not a happy bunny, but I would not ban nettles.

I have a holly hedge, also beech and hawthorn, of the three the holly is
by far the easiest to maintain.

Soup just had to say
snip
Yes they are prickly, but holly is a natural hazard, I fell into a
nettle bed as a youngster, not a happy bunny, but I would not ban
nettles.
snip

I didn't say ban Holly I just said be careful of it.
Holly may well be "easy" to look after but the person who had this
house before us was an old widower who had no interest in his garden,
talking to the other next door neighbour she said the hedge was
planted by the original tenants wife to spite the local children
(grown up with children of there own now)
Must admit to being biased as having two kids of my own I was
continually scared of them falling/being pushed into this 'hedge' and
scratching
themselves or poking eyes out, and the leaves didn't seem to biodegrade
when off the parent plant, just lay wherever they had been blown 'jagging'
the unwary.
Had lots of scrapes/cuts/bruises as a child seemed to hurt myself
a million ways, wouldn't ban these things just because they might
be dangerous, however I see no percentage in deliberately courting danger,
by planting one of these things.
NOTE this minor rant isn't against Holly per se but putting in plants with
no regard for what they will grow into or how they will grow if untended.


--
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Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant! / \
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On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 13:52:24 GMT, "Soup" wrote:

Soup just had to say
On 17 Mar 2004 01:11:06 -0800,
(Campbell Thompson) wrote:
snip
Some
forms of Holly (delve deeply - it's a huge and varied genus) would fit
your bill.

Be very careful of holly ,if the neighbours or indeed yourself has or are
likely to have children, holly leaves can be quite 'prickly'.

I did say it's a huge and varied genus and several of them are not
prickly so like I said, look carefully at what's available. When I was
a kid the borders around our school playground were full of things
like berberis, pyracantha etc - the sort of stuff we young hooligans
would find difficult to destroy. Afaik nobody came to any serious
harm.

Rod

Weed my email address to reply
http://website.lineone.net/~rodcraddock/index.html

In article ,
Soup wrote:

I didn't say ban Holly I just said be careful of it.
Holly may well be "easy" to look after but the person who had this
house before us was an old widower who had no interest in his garden,
talking to the other next door neighbour she said the hedge was
planted by the original tenants wife to spite the local children
(grown up with children of there own now)
Must admit to being biased as having two kids of my own I was
continually scared of them falling/being pushed into this 'hedge' and
scratching
themselves or poking eyes out, and the leaves didn't seem to biodegrade
when off the parent plant, just lay wherever they had been blown 'jagging'
the unwary.
Had lots of scrapes/cuts/bruises as a child seemed to hurt myself
a million ways, wouldn't ban these things just because they might
be dangerous, however I see no percentage in deliberately courting danger,
by planting one of these things.
NOTE this minor rant isn't against Holly per se but putting in plants with
no regard for what they will grow into or how they will grow if untended.

Holly is actually LESS likely to take eyes out than apparently 'safer'
plants. The reason is that it is the dead or sharp twigs that are
the danger and not prickles. Children should be encouraged to fall
into nettlebeds and holly hedges, regularly, to teach them that not
everything is cuddly. Don't let them learn on pyracantha or many
berberis, or they might well lose an eye.

Chillis are also good for teaching children not to eat unidentified
berries. Every garden should have a pot of those nice, brightly
coloured things to attract determinedly disobedient toddlers into
a safe and effective learning experience :-)


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

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Soup just had to say
On 17 Mar 2004 01:11:06 -0800,
(Campbell Thompson) wrote:
snip
Some
forms of Holly (delve deeply - it's a huge and varied genus) would fit
your bill.

Be very careful of holly ,if the neighbours or indeed yourself has or are
likely to have children, holly leaves can be quite 'prickly'. Next door
put up a fence to keep our (inherited) holly hedge at bay, hated it with
a passion so eventually I removed it ,took me two days too cut the foliage
from the trunks,had been growing for thirty odd years so the root system
was very 'mature' took me two days too dig the roots out four days in
all just to remove a hedge. Maybe if the hedge had been kept on top
of with regard to pruning and thinning out might have been nicer, but
overgrown and dangerous as it was it had to go.

Puhlease...holly leaf scratches are not "dangerous".

Janet

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from "Soup" contains these words:

Soup just had to say
On 17 Mar 2004 01:11:06 -0800,
(Campbell Thompson) wrote:
snip
Some
forms of Holly (delve deeply - it's a huge and varied genus) would fit
your bill.

Be very careful of holly ,if the neighbours or indeed yourself has or are
likely to have children, holly leaves can be quite 'prickly'. Next door
put up a fence to keep our (inherited) holly hedge at bay, hated it with
a passion so eventually I removed it ,took me two days too cut the foliage
from the trunks,had been growing for thirty odd years so the root system
was very 'mature' took me two days too dig the roots out four days in
all just to remove a hedge. Maybe if the hedge had been kept on top
of with regard to pruning and thinning out might have been nicer, but
overgrown and dangerous as it was it had to go.

Puhlease...holly leaf scratches are not "dangerous".

Janet

Remember that one of the chief reasons for planting things like holly as a
hedge is to make your property secure, this is one of the things advocated
by many Police forces.
Nice soft hedges are easy for people to push through..unless you hide a
barbed wire fence in the middle.
Remember also NOT to plant bushes conifers by your front door so blocking it
from view, this makes it easy for someone to Lurk whilst opening your door
when you are out/away without your neighbours seeing whets going on,

--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk

Remember that one of the chief reasons for planting things like holly as a
hedge is to make your property secure, this is one of the things advocated
by many Police forces.
Nice soft hedges are easy for people to push through..unless you hide a
barbed wire fence in the middle.
Remember also NOT to plant bushes conifers by your front door so blocking it
from view, this makes it easy for someone to Lurk whilst opening your door
when you are out/away without your neighbours seeing whets going on,

--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk

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from "Soup" contains these words:

I didn't say ban Holly I just said be careful of it.
Holly may well be "easy" to look after but the person who had this
house before us was an old widower who had no interest in his garden,
talking to the other next door neighbour she said the hedge was
planted by the original tenants wife to spite the local children
(grown up with children of there own now)
Must admit to being biased as having two kids of my own I was
continually scared of them falling/being pushed into this 'hedge' and
scratching
themselves or poking eyes out, and the leaves didn't seem to biodegrade
when off the parent plant, just lay wherever they had been blown 'jagging'
the unwary.
Had lots of scrapes/cuts/bruises as a child seemed to hurt myself
a million ways, wouldn't ban these things just because they might
be dangerous, however I see no percentage in deliberately courting danger,
by planting one of these things.
NOTE this minor rant isn't against Holly per se but putting in plants with
no regard for what they will grow into or how they will grow if untended.

When I was at boarding school aged about nine, there was a holly hedge
just under our dormitory window.

It was de rigeur (from time to time) to leap out of the window dressed
only in pyjamas and land in the hedge on one's back.

The first time I did it I was surprised to find how little the prickles
penetrated. And, before someone chips in with the observation that the
higher leaves of holly don't have so many prickles, the hedge grew on a
bank and the dormitory was on a first floor mezzanine level, so it was
just as prickly on top as low down.

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