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Old 28-03-2004, 06:02 PM
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On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 17:00:37 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
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You're older than you look.


Thanks for the compliment {:-))


Oh it's not a compliment. I couldn't believe that anyone could be older than
you look :-)


which reminds me http://www.illwillpress.com/spell.html
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Old 28-03-2004, 09:13 PM
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Sacha wrote:

************************************************** *******
To state to others that they are vermin
is not only misleading but in your case it is downright dishonest
and if someone chose to take it far enough, could even be
actionable.

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I'm not interested in joining the debate about cats, but I strongly
believe that the statement above is just plain wrong at best. It
would not be possible to raise a successful action against someone
who called cats vermin in a newsgroup.


Indeed. I feel, though, that pointing out that deliberately hurting
or killing other people's pets is wrong was a worthwhile thing to do.

Except that I wasn't talking solely or even mainly about Mike telling
people here that cats are vermin. I *was* talking about someone
reading his stupid assertion, believing it, acting upon it by putting
down poison for cats to pick up, the cat/s dying and the possible
legal consequences of *that* both upon the poisoner and upon Mike who
has given the wrong information deliberately and perhaps encouraged
an illegal action.


The sentence above (between the asterisks) is pretty clear. It starts with a
capital "T," and finishes with a full stop, and most certainly states that
the actionable offence is stating that cats are vermin.
Can't you just salvage a little dignity by admitting that you were angry and
got it wrong?

Martin


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Old 29-03-2004, 08:33 AM
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On 26 Mar 2004 17:26:55 GMT, Nick Maclaren wrote:

You youngsters are just wimps. Where and when I was born, there


....were 120 of us, livin' in a septic tank. And in the mornin' we 'ad to
get up an' lick 'road clean wit' tongues. ;-)


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Old 29-03-2004, 08:35 AM
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On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 19:23:33 +0000, hugh wrote:

In message , martin
writes
On 26 Mar 2004 11:59:22 GMT, (Nick Maclaren) wrote:


In article m,
Tim Challenger "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" writes:
| On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 16:43:26 -0000, Mary Fisher wrote:
|
| Cockroaches aren't destructive or injurious to health.
| Try these:
|
|
http://www.barking-dagenham.gov.uk/6...th/PDF/hcs-pes
|t-fsh-cockroaches.PDF
|
| http://www.eastbourne.gov.uk/Busines...ockroaches.pdf
|
| and if you don't think much of the UK links, try the WHO:
| http://www.who.int/docstore/water_sa...ntrol/ch31.htm

The fact that they are a serious health risk in the tropics is
not necessarily evidence that they are in the UK.


The H&SE think they are. Restaurants with resident cockroaches are
closed down.

Mosquitoes are
there and not here.


and unless you live near a major international airport.

There are mosquitos in the UK, but fortunately we do not have parasite
which carries malaria.


Not any more, and not yet. Let's hope. It's getting closer though.
Oliver Cromwell died of malaria.

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Old 29-03-2004, 09:16 AM
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You youngsters are just wimps. Where and when I was born, there


...were 120 of us, livin' in a septic tank. And in the mornin' we 'ad to
get up an' lick 'road clean wit' tongues. ;-)


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Tim, wood u buy ne chance b ly ing? ;-)




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Old 29-03-2004, 10:15 AM
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"Tim Challenger" "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" wrote in message
s.com...
On 26 Mar 2004 17:26:55 GMT, Nick Maclaren wrote:

You youngsters are just wimps. Where and when I was born, there


...were 120 of us, livin' in a septic tank. And in the mornin' we 'ad to
get up an' lick 'road clean wit' tongues. ;-)


You had clean roads?

There's posh!

Mary


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Old 29-03-2004, 10:17 AM
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"Tim Challenger" "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" wrote in message
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On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 19:23:33 +0000, hugh wrote:

Not any more, and not yet. Let's hope. It's getting closer though.
Oliver Cromwell died of malaria.


According to an excellent website (by the Oliver Cromwel Fan Club) this
isn't certain. But even if he didn't die of malaria it's likely that his
body ws debilitated by recurrent bouts.

It's fascinating.

Mary

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Old 29-03-2004, 10:34 AM
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On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 09:52:37 +0100, Mary Fisher wrote:

"Tim Challenger" "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" wrote in message
s.com...
On 26 Mar 2004 17:26:55 GMT, Nick Maclaren wrote:

You youngsters are just wimps. Where and when I was born, there


...were 120 of us, livin' in a septic tank. And in the mornin' we 'ad to
get up an' lick 'road clean wit' tongues. ;-)


You had clean roads?

There's posh!


They were clean, aye, but cuvver'd in dribble.

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Old 29-03-2004, 10:36 AM
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Not any more, and not yet. Let's hope. It's getting closer though.
Oliver Cromwell died of malaria.


I'll get my coat, this is where I came in....



before or after Oliver Cromwell died?

Were you there when he died?

Could you be responsible for his death?

Please don't leave, we may have some questions we would like you to answer.



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Old 29-03-2004, 10:39 AM
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In article m,
Tim Challenger "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" writes:
| On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 09:52:37 +0100, Mary Fisher wrote:
|
| You youngsters are just wimps. Where and when I was born, there
|
| ...were 120 of us, livin' in a septic tank. And in the mornin' we 'ad to
| get up an' lick 'road clean wit' tongues. ;-)
|
| You had clean roads?
|
| There's posh!
|
| They were clean, aye, but cuvver'd in dribble.

The very idea of licking roads clean! That implies that they were
surfaced - if you tried that where I was, you would have had to
lick down to the bedrock.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.


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Old 29-03-2004, 11:35 AM
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On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 09:52:37 +0100, Mary Fisher wrote:

"Tim Challenger" "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" wrote in message
s.com...
On 26 Mar 2004 17:26:55 GMT, Nick Maclaren wrote:

You youngsters are just wimps. Where and when I was born, there


...were 120 of us, livin' in a septic tank. And in the mornin' we 'ad to
get up an' lick 'road clean wit' tongues. ;-)


You had clean roads?

There's posh!


They were clean, aye, but cuvver'd in dribble.

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Not any more, and not yet. Let's hope. It's getting closer though.
Oliver Cromwell died of malaria.


I'll get my coat, this is where I came in....



before or after Oliver Cromwell died?

Were you there when he died?

Could you be responsible for his death?

Please don't leave, we may have some questions we would like you to answer.



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Old 29-03-2004, 11:38 AM
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In article m,
Tim Challenger "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" writes:
| On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 09:52:37 +0100, Mary Fisher wrote:
|
| You youngsters are just wimps. Where and when I was born, there
|
| ...were 120 of us, livin' in a septic tank. And in the mornin' we 'ad to
| get up an' lick 'road clean wit' tongues. ;-)
|
| You had clean roads?
|
| There's posh!
|
| They were clean, aye, but cuvver'd in dribble.

The very idea of licking roads clean! That implies that they were
surfaced - if you tried that where I was, you would have had to
lick down to the bedrock.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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Old 29-03-2004, 11:40 AM
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Just to put the potential risk in perspective, here are two excerpts from
New Scientist magazine of an interview with Paul Reiter, chief entomologist
at the US government's dengue research lab in Puerto Rico.

**New Scientist vol 167 issue 2257 - 23 September 2000, page 41

First of all, most people think of malaria as a tropical disease. That's
completely wrong. Until very recently it was widespread in Europe and North
America. In the 1880s, virtually all the US was malarious, and even parts
of Canada. When the organisation I work for, the Centers for Disease
Control and Prevention (CDC), was founded in 1946, its principal mission
was to eradicate malaria from the US. In Europe, the disease was endemic as
far north as Norway, Sweden and Finland. In the 1920s, epidemics killed
hundreds of thousands in the Soviet Union, right up to the Arctic Circle.
One of the last European countries to be freed of the disease was Holland.
That was in 1970.

....

Why did malaria decline in the northern hemisphere?

In some places, it was drainage schemes, insecticides, anti-malarial
medicines, and so on. But the most important factors were complex changes
in the way people lived, which reduced their contact with mosquitoes. You
can see this even today. For example, Texans love air conditioning. They
live for much of the year with all their doors and windows closed.
**



and from New Scientist vol 163 issue 2204 - 18 September 1999, page Page 13

**
In Turkey, malaria was almost eliminated by 1989. But a major irrigation
project in the southeast of the country caused cases to jump nearly tenfold
between 1990 and 1994. A massive effort to control that epidemic is almost
solely responsible for a fall in the total number of cases in Europe since
1996, but the control is tenuous. Turkey's tourist boom means that malaria
could start to pose a risk for western Europe.

The WHO thinks that good medical care, vigilant surveillance and chilly
winters will prevent malaria from re-establishing itself in northern
Europe, despite the existence of mosquito species able to carry it.

But the species that live in southern Europe are better at maintaining the
parasite. There were outbreaks of malaria that were spread by local
mosquitoes in Corsica in 1970, and in Bulgaria in 1995, while in 1997 an
Italian caught the disease from a local mosquito.

"The risk for the reappearance of the disease in some areas of southern
Europe, where more efficient vectors are present, is real," warns the WHO.
**

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On 29 Mar 2004 09:26:26 GMT, Nick Maclaren wrote:

In article m,
Tim Challenger "timothy(dot)challenger(at)apk(dot)at" writes:
| On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 09:52:37 +0100, Mary Fisher wrote:
|
| You youngsters are just wimps. Where and when I was born, there
|
| ...were 120 of us, livin' in a septic tank. And in the mornin' we 'ad to
| get up an' lick 'road clean wit' tongues. ;-)
|
| You had clean roads?
|
| There's posh!
|
| They were clean, aye, but cuvver'd in dribble.

The very idea of licking roads clean! That implies that they were
surfaced - if you tried that where I was, you would have had to
lick down to the bedrock.


.... an'd you try tellin' that t' the yungsters of today, An' they won't
believe you. ;-)

Sorry, just to difficult to resist. Any excuse for a Monty Python sketch.
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