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On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 06:16:09 -0000, "Brian Watson"
wrote: "PhEaSaNt PLuCKeR" wrote in message ... How can I stop the kids next door keep coming round every 5 mins asking if they can go into my garden to get their ball back? Remember you were a child once too. Then it won't matter. This ploy often works:-) Glad I'm not the only one:-) Liz |
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On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 22:23:34 GMT, "ex WGS Hamm"
wrote: "Des Higgins" wrote in message ... Ehhhh, I have two young kids of my own already who play in the garden. If balls come in, the kids just deal with it themselves. If they make a mess, I ask them to be careful. They are nice kids (mine and the neighbours'). I think one is more tolerant when one has children. I am a crabby middle aged woman who's son is adult and lives away :0) I have smashing neighbours too which is great. But not everyones garden is safe for kids. If the people whos garden the ball goes into do not have kids, they might have all kinds of chemicals stored in all kinds of containers (pop bottles) and a barel of toxic homebrew in the shed. Who knows what kids would do if they had the chance for a nosey about if nobody was in. I know I would have when I was a kid ;0) The trouble these days is the kids might just be kids from your street or they might be scr*t*s from (wherever). The nice kids will drink the weedkiller, then you'll have to move house and hang your head in shame. The "chavs" (as people who have no dealings with them call them) will find your spare key in that fake stone, burgle your house, cr*p in your fridge and all before you get home from work (you think the school cares if they skive?) Liz |
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"Cereus-validus..." wrote in message om... "Franz Heymann" wrote in message ... "Cereus-validus..." wrote in message . com... Yeah, that Theft act is a bit convoluted. It protects the stupid and punishes the victim. Must have been written up by a republican judge. There are no republican judges in the UK. The neighbor should have returned the balls deflated with punctures in them! You son is obviously a dyslexic dumb jock meat head. Don't want to know anything more about your dimwit spawn. His not being able to keep his balls out of neighbor's yards six times (or more) is all the proof one needs of how inept the dullard is. He's so dumb, he could be president some day! We are not cursed with objects of scorn like presidents in the UK. Sure Franz, maybe not republican in name but certainly republican in spirit! Tony Blair may belong to the Labor Party but he is a closet Conservative chicken hawk just like Dubya!! They both served the same amount of time in military service!!!! You have it the wrong way round. Blair subverted the Labour Party, and it is now his personal fiefdom. Of course he is further to the right than the Conservative Party. Sure Franz, you are just cursed with object of scorn Prime Ministers like Tony Blair. Not much of a difference at all!!! Regrettably you are right. Franz |
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"ex WGS Hamm" wrote in message ... [snip] Actually no I would not. There is no law against keeping a dangerous dog as long as certain precautions are made. The precautions I make are keeping them in a secure garden behind high hedges and 6 foot high gates which cannot be opened from the outside. Dear me, do you live in a jail? [snip] Franz |
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"Franz Heymann" wrote in message ... "ex WGS Hamm" wrote in message ... [snip] Actually no I would not. There is no law against keeping a dangerous dog as long as certain precautions are made. The precautions I make are keeping them in a secure garden behind high hedges and 6 foot high gates which cannot be opened from the outside. Dear me, do you live in a jail? Nope, just a secure remote cottage. |
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"Sacha" wrote in message k... Well now, let's see. We live way out in the sticks and have no street lighting but no parrots, either. Or 'pikeys'. At the time I had those particular dogs in that particular situation, I had several neighbours and lived in a house fronting onto a lit main road. Luckily, I have never seen the reason to have a vicious dog on my premises to 'protect' other animals or me. Well obviously. You have never had lots of valuable parrots, nor opportune pikeys (the fens has many pikey sites around) so you never had a 'need' to protect your property. If you had got parrots and pikeys you might well have had 'reason' to protect yourself. All I can say is that it is a good job Kip never came to you as a pup. You would not have seen the need to keep him and would no doubt have had him put down. Good job we aren't all the same. I could not abide a dozy bugger of a dog who would not protect me and mine. I think it's a very good job that *most* people don't see the need to keep vicious dogs in the manner you describe, yes. Not even people who keep parrots - and yes, I do know someone who does parrot rescue, lives on a main road, has neighbours and does not keep vicious dogs. And I know parot breeders with large aviary blocks. They need to live fairly remote because of the noise nuisacne or large numbers of parrots screaming at dawn every morning. All of them has several dogs. Most of them have dogs which would bite intruders. When you are talking about tens of thousands of pounds worth of parrots, you need to protect them. It is a different case for someone who has a couple of parrots in their home which is in a populated busy area. One of my friends has a single pair of parrots which are worth around £5000 just for the one pair. In total his collection is worth in the region of £80,000. You still don't see the need to have large bold guard dogs?? I was making a point to someone who maintained it was ok for the kids firstly to kick the ball over, and then to simply go and fetch it without asking permission. The garden owner might have a dog who hated kids, he might also have had a shed with chemicals in or a greenhouse with brittle glass, or a fall in-able pond for the little darlings to drown themselves in. The point I am making is that nobody should enter someone's property unless they have permission. Then it's a shame you don't read properly. Because my post - which you quoted - suggested that the OP give the children permission to come onto his property. I did NOT suggest going onto anyone's property without permission. Not even yours. You are correct then as I didn't read that the OP had told the children to go in when they felt like it. I misunderstood and thought that the person who posted was saying that kids didn't need to ask permission to go into someone's garden. |
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The message
from "ex WGS Hamm" contains these words: "Jaques d'Alltrades" wrote in message k... The message from "suspicious minds" contains these words: Sorry about the long reply but this is the actual law and I have underlined the parts which could apply to the keeping of balls and fruit etc However, you have not mentioned conversion. Depriving someone of their property without legal right, but with no intention of depriving them of it permanently (legal right might be for instance, the police removing evidence) is a civil offence, and usually, a criminal offence, too. I would have to argue that one. My brothers ex girlfriend stole everything out of his house when he was away on holiday. When the police turned up she said she took most of it 'by mistake' and would eventually give it back to him. 6 months later and it still wasn't returned and the police would do nothing. He even when to the chief of police to see if this was correct and to dayte she still has his stuff, apparently in storage and plans to return it 'eventually'. Quite - it's not theft, so long as there really is an intention of returning it, and the police can't take action. The only recourse your brother has is of threatening (or actually beginning) a civil action for conversion. -- Rusty Open the creaking gate to make a horrid.squeak, then lower the foobar. http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hi-fi/ |
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AC/DC - Big Balls
I'm upper, upper class high society God's gift to ballroom notoriety And I always fill my ballroom The event is never small All the social papers say I've got the biggest balls of all CHORUS I've got big balls I've got big balls And they're such big balls Dirty big balls And he's got big balls, And she's got big balls, But we've got the biggest balls of them all! And my balls are always bouncing My ballroom always full And everybody comes and comes again If your name is on the guest list No one can take you higher Everybody says I've got great balls of fire! CHORUS Some balls are held for charity And some for fancy dress But when they're held for pleasure, They're the balls that I like best. And my balls are always bouncing, To the left and to the right. It's my belief that my big balls should be held every night. CHORUS And I'm just itching to tell you about them Oh, we have such wonderful fun Seafood cocktail Crabs Crayfish |
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In article , Jaques d'Alltrades writes: | | Going onto someone's land unbidden is trespass. It only becomes a crime | if damage is done or if the trespass is committed with unlawful intent, | and is now, I believe, called 'aggravated trespass'. Sigh. No. Merely entering and not doing damage is not trespass, and you may even have a right to do so. There are both statutory and common law rights to enter other people's property, though collecting balls is not one of them. Doing damage is NOT a crime, but a civil offence, and it is the combination of entering without permission and doing damage that is trespass. The Game Laws, Criminal Justice and Public Order Act and others make certain types of trespass crimes, but that is another matter. Regards, Nick Maclaren. |
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"Cerumen" wrote in message ... "PhEaSaNt PLuCKeR" wrote in message ... How can I stop the kids next door keep coming round every 5 mins asking if they can go into my garden to get their ball back? Tell them they don't need to ask and just get it without doing damage. Be thankful they are polite enough to ask. -- Chris Thomas West Cork Ireland Do we all remember the term "Shithouse Lawyers". I think they have all made a comment here. The problem is between neighbours and if they can't resolve it then it may require "REAL" lawyers and they are off on holiday spending the money they squeezed out of other people who failed to solve simple things using common sense. |
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On 11/11/04 12:45, in article , "ex WGS
Hamm" wrote: snip You are correct then as I didn't read that the OP had told the children to go in when they felt like it. I misunderstood and thought that the person who posted was saying that kids didn't need to ask permission to go into someone's garden. No, no, no. I'm not getting into the rest of this argument with you re your vicious dogs and parrots and all the rest of it because I am not living in your circumstances. But NO, I did NOT suggest anyone goes into anyone else's garden without permission. I would never do such a thing. Read my post again, if you will. I suggested that the OP told the children that they could go into his garden at any time - in other words, that they have his blanket permission to retrieve the ball and do not have to keep ringing his door bell and asking his permission. -- Sacha (remove the weeds for email) |
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In article , Sacha
writes I wrote the sentence which suggested telling the owner of the garden should tell the children they don't need to ask. I followed it up by saying it worked fine for me. We are not 'interpreting it differently' because *I* wrote it. Sacha - she was replying to me, not you! It was me that was interpreting it differently I have no idea how YOU can *possibly* interpret that as me suggesting that 'someone'- who is not you - tells other peoples' children that it's fine to come into *your* garden. Why on earth would I incite others to trespass? Why would I suggest the OP's friends and neighbours should create one nuisance on top of another? Personally, I agree - but then I would, since that is how I read your post in the first place! -- Kay "Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river" |
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"Martin" wrote in message ... On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 17:52:15 +0000 (UTC), "Franz Heymann" wrote: "Cereus-validus..." wrote in message .com... Yeah, that Theft act is a bit convoluted. It protects the stupid and punishes the victim. Must have been written up by a republican judge. There are no republican judges in the UK. The neighbor should have returned the balls deflated with punctures in them! You son is obviously a dyslexic dumb jock meat head. Don't want to know anything more about your dimwit spawn. His not being able to keep his balls out of neighbor's yards six times (or more) is all the proof one needs of how inept the dullard is. He's so dumb, he could be president some day! We are not cursed with objects of scorn like presidents in the UK. We are not cursed with objects of scorn like the monarchy in the UK. Touche Franz |
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