Hello, fellow horticulturalists!

I have been set a task to write an annual maintenance plan for a whole
load of plants and one of these is the Hemerocallis 'Chicago Sunrise'.
Because this is a perennial, general maintenance for perennials could be
applied I suppose (a perennial that grows 2.1m tall and flowers in
July/August anyway).

The following must be described:
* Weeding
* Feeding
* Water
* Pest and disease control
* Control growth

Could anybody suggest the necessary maintenance requirements for this
plant in January or even every month of the year?
I hate to ask you all, but this will be an excellent test for your
knowledge and when I have received my National Certificate in
Horticulture, I will be able solve any plant and garden-related problems
you may have. Until then, this small favour would be most appreciated,
as I am swimming in a hundred and one other assignments at present and
am struggling to complete them all.
Thank you!

--
Dr Dan

Dave Poole wrote:

On Mon, 16 May 2005 20:22:51 +0100, danthemen wrote:


I hate to ask you all, but this will be an excellent test for your
knowledge


Oh I don't think so. We already know the answer. Patently you don't
and our knowledge, gained by hands-on experience over many years is
not being questioned. Try learning the way most of us did - by
getting dirty hands and learning from mistakes.


He could try google. It brings up lots of hits for daylilies and their
care. Many university departments have detection software to stop that
kind of "help" though.


[snip]


and one of these is the Hemerocallis 'Chicago Sunrise'.
Because this is a perennial, general maintenance for
perennials could be applied I suppose (a perennial that
grows 2.1m tall).....


Oh really? 2.1m high eh? Here's a little hint - 'Chicago Sunrise'
barely reaches 1m. high at flowering.


Do any hemerocallis get much above 1m? Perhaps someone's crossed them
with cardiocrinum :-)


Until then, this small favour would be most appreciated,
as I am swimming in a hundred and one other assignments at present and
am struggling to complete them all.


Well, college life sucks occasionally. Try working a bit harder do
some prioritisation.


If he really is overwhelmed then he should see his tutor ASAP. They
should be able to help him prioritize. It can only get more hectic as
the end of (university) year approaches.


Dave Poole
Torquay, Coastal South Devon UK
Winter min -2°C. Summer max 34°C.
Growing season: March - November


Alan

In article ,
Alan R Williams writes:
| Dave Poole wrote:
|
| and one of these is the Hemerocallis 'Chicago Sunrise'.
| Because this is a perennial, general maintenance for
| perennials could be applied I suppose (a perennial that
| grows 2.1m tall).....
|
|
| Oh really? 2.1m high eh? Here's a little hint - 'Chicago Sunrise'
| barely reaches 1m. high at flowering.
|
| Do any hemerocallis get much above 1m? Perhaps someone's crossed them
| with cardiocrinum :-)

He could try planting it in a hanging basket :-)


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

In article ,
Dave Poole writes:
| On Mon, 16 May 2005 20:22:51 +0100, danthemen wrote:
|
| Do you really think that gaining a certificate will immediately enable
| you to answer questions on (for instance) the role of potassium in
| plant metabolism or the virtues/failings of F1 hybrids against open
| pollinated varieties? ...

Hmm. I was looking up about Ipomoea indica the other day, and
saw a paper that it is mainly self-sterile, but pollen from two
other species had germinated and then failed to travel down the
pollen tube. I was wondering what the triggers were for pollen
germination and for ability to get down the tube (well, length
is obviously one in that case).

I hate to ask him, but this will be an excellent test for his
knowledge ....


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

In article 1116324786.282b59fb2029a41afbfc5f9569daf6d5@teran ews,
danthemen writes

when I have received my National Certificate in Horticulture, I will be able
solve any plant and garden-related problems you may have.

You will be able to solve *any* of them will you? There won't be a
single one which will leave you stumped?


--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

You will be able to solve *any* of them will you? There won't be a
single one which will leave you stumped?



You folks need to calm down a bit here, all I asked for was a little
advice on the maintenance of the Hemerocallis and I get all sorts of
verbal abuse. OK, so having a national certificate in horticulture won't
immediately make me an expert, so what?
But hey, if you don't want to know, that is fine with me.
Now, here is a question for you all - what plant does one obtain the tea
leaf from (without looking on google)?

--
Dr. Dan

Janet Baraclough wrote:
The message 1116369371.1b34caf7481812cbc96c88e0d3435694@teran ews
from danthemen contains these words:


You folks need to calm down a bit here,

You need to wake up and pay attention. Sonny.

all I asked for was a little
advice on the maintenance of the Hemerocallis

No, had you done that you'd have got it. What you asked for, was
this group to do your assignment so that you could fake your way
through a qualification which would enable you to charge us for your
"expertise".

and I get all sorts of
verbal abuse. OK, so having a national certificate in horticulture
won't immediately make me an expert, so what?

So it was very silly of you to boast that it would.

But hey, if you don't want to know, that is fine with me.
Now, here is a question for you all - what plant does one obtain the
tea leaf from (without looking on google)?

No skipping to the easy bits, you haven't filled in your
hemerocallis answers yet. Come back when you've done that, and we'll
mark your homework for you.

Janet ( First Aid Badge)

Brownies - or Guides?

Sarah (former Queen's Guide)


--
In memory of MS MVP Alex Nichol: http://www.dts-l.org/

In article 1116369371.1b34caf7481812cbc96c88e0d3435694@teran ews,
danthemen writes
You will be able to solve *any* of them will you? There won't be a
single one which will leave you stumped?



You folks need to calm down a bit here, all I asked for was a little
advice on the maintenance of the Hemerocallis and I get all sorts of
verbal abuse.

You asked us to do your course work for you. And you had the arrogance
to suggest that we would be amply repaid because once you had your HNC
you would be able to answer all our questions for us. To suggest that a
newly qualified HNC who hasn't even done all his coursework himself has
more expertise than the posters on this group, some of whom have had a
lifetime in horticulture and who are leaders in their field, is deeply
insulting.

OK, so having a national certificate in horticulture won't
immediately make me an expert, so what?

So don't suggest it will.

But hey, if you don't want to know, that is fine with me.
Now, here is a question for you all - what plant does one obtain the tea
leaf from (without looking on google)?

Oh, please!!!
If that's your idea of a challenging question!!!

Do you have *any* conception of just how offensive you are being?
Suppose I suggested you might need to use Google to tell the difference
between a daffodil and a cauliflower ... I think that's about the
equivalent level of your question.
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

In article 1116369371.1b34caf7481812cbc96c88e0d3435694@teran ews,
danthemen wrote:

You folks need to calm down a bit here, all I asked for was a little
advice on the maintenance of the Hemerocallis and I get all sorts of
verbal abuse. OK, so having a national certificate in horticulture won't
immediately make me an expert, so what?
But hey, if you don't want to know, that is fine with me.

Oh, we quite like to know. It's just that we don't regard arrogant
little twits as being more than sub-human.

Now, here is a question for you all - what plant does one obtain the tea
leaf from (without looking on google)?

Oh, nuts. There are at least half-a-dozen regular posters who could
not merely answer that, but tell you its horticultural requirements,
and one or two might even have a plant in their gardens.


Regards,
Nick Maclaren.

danthemen wrote:

Now, here is a question for you all - what plant does one obtain the tea
leaf from (without looking on google)?


Chinese or Assam tea (without looking on google)?

If you know how to use google then why didn't you just search for the
answer to your assignment? Have you thought that some of your teachers
might be lurking here?

Alan

In article , Dave Poole
writes
Kay wrote:

You asked us to do your course work for you. And you had the arrogance
to suggest that we would be amply repaid because once you had your HNC
you would be able to answer all our questions for us.

Kay, I very much doubt if he's anywhere near HNC level.

You're right! He simply said 'National Certificate'.

I used to
teach the RHS General Certificate, which is about 2 levels below HNC
and I would have been very worried indeed if any of my students had to
ask so simple a question.

Now, here is a question for you all - what plant does one obtain the tea
leaf from (without looking on google)?

Oh, please!!!
If that's your idea of a challenging question!!!

Don't rise to it Kay, he's either a very silly little boy or being a
troll.

I'll never learn! I always assume people are well meaning until
comprehensively proved otherwise.
--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

OK, I have very limited horticultural knowledge and I am arrogant. And
lazy. For this I apologise.
None of you have answered my question though (Chinese tea by the way,
not assam). A tad hypocritical I think.
Right, lets move up a level. Why would the addition of lime to a clay
soil improve the drainage? I can try something a little more challenging
if this is too easy for you...


Dr Dan

In article 1116436626.c9344729998b1bd9a67d706e27a9f0c6@teran ews,
danthemen writes
OK, I have very limited horticultural knowledge and I am arrogant. And
lazy. For this I apologise.
None of you have answered my question though (Chinese tea by the way,
not assam). A tad hypocritical I think.

No. Just not wasting our time with a troll


--
Kay
"Do not insult the crocodile until you have crossed the river"

danthemen wrote:
OK, I have very limited horticultural knowledge and I am arrogant.
And lazy. For this I apologise.
None of you have answered my question though (Chinese tea by the
way,
not assam). A tad hypocritical I think.
Right, lets move up a level. Why would the addition of lime to a
clay
soil improve the drainage? I can try something a little more
challenging if this is too easy for you...

You still haven't twigged, have you? You're a good lad, or you
wouldn't be doing horti at college. So I'll take the time to spell it
out.

This group is riddled with people with qualifications in
horticulture, agriculture, or botany, or twenty to fifty+ years'
gardening experience, often professional. You could have made
friends; but you came in asking us to do your homework for you, which
is an absolute no-no in adult newsgroups (the answer's certain to be
on the Web, by the way). That's strictly for future cowboys: don't be
tempted. If it's tough at college, take a deep breath and ask your
tutors for guidance (we've all done it, and we know it takes some
doing: but it gets you respect in the end).

Then, puh-lease, you tried saving face by gratuitously offering to
test us with elementary questions on stuff half of us probably
learned from our mothers. That's going to get up noses, n'est-ce pas?
You could have spent the time in the library or discussing it with
your mates, anyhow.

Bollocking over, if you've read this far. So get back to work, feel
good about your achievements; and remember that any hard slog you
have to do at college will look like a holiday when you're rebuilding
a dry-stone wall in an east wind. But you'll be even prouder of that
wall. Best of wishes: and I mean it.

--
Mike.

You still haven't twigged, have you? You're a good lad, or you
wouldn't be doing horti at college. So I'll take the time to spell it
out.

This group is riddled with people with qualifications in
horticulture, agriculture, or botany, or twenty to fifty+ years'
gardening experience, often professional. You could have made
friends; but you came in asking us to do your homework for you, which
is an absolute no-no in adult newsgroups (the answer's certain to be
on the Web, by the way). That's strictly for future cowboys: don't be
tempted. If it's tough at college, take a deep breath and ask your
tutors for guidance (we've all done it, and we know it takes some
doing: but it gets you respect in the end).

Then, puh-lease, you tried saving face by gratuitously offering to
test us with elementary questions on stuff half of us probably
learned from our mothers. That's going to get up noses, n'est-ce pas?
You could have spent the time in the library or discussing it with
your mates, anyhow.

Bollocking over, if you've read this far. So get back to work, feel
good about your achievements; and remember that any hard slog you
have to do at college will look like a holiday when you're rebuilding
a dry-stone wall in an east wind. But you'll be even prouder of that
wall. Best of wishes: and I mean it.


Ah, at last! A polite, mature member of this group. Thank you for
clarifying that for me. I apologise for my ignorance.
Obviously the majority of you folks are highly knowledgeable,
experienced professionals et al, but could somebody please answer me
just one question: what is a "troll," and how exactly could I possibly
be one of these things?

Dr Dan