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Old 16-07-2005, 12:30 AM
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Hi,

What is the best thing to preserve UK railway sleepers (I'm not sure of the
wood), the sleepers in question will be sunk in to the ground and others
used as soil retainers.

Is it as simple as putting creosote on and maybe using some sort of vapour
barrier between the soil and sleeper?

Many thanks in advance,

Mark.


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Old 16-07-2005, 01:02 AM
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What is the best thing to preserve UK railway sleepers (I'm not sure of the
wood), the sleepers in question will be sunk in to the ground and others
used as soil retainers.


Is it as simple as putting creosote on and maybe using some sort of vapour
barrier between the soil and sleeper?


Many thanks in advance,


They have already been treated with high-pressure tar/creosote, etc, and
you needn't thing of trying to improve on that: they were meant to be in
contact with soil.

You could line the soil side with black polythene, but the sleepers will
probably outlast you anyway.

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Old 16-07-2005, 07:50 AM
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Hi,

What is the best thing to preserve UK railway sleepers (I'm not sure of
the wood), the sleepers in question will be sunk in to the ground and
others used as soil retainers.

Is it as simple as putting creosote on and maybe using some sort of vapour
barrier between the soil and sleeper?

Many thanks in advance,

Mark.

Old railway sleepers contain a variety of preservatives which are toxic and
vary in composition depending on the original source of the sleepers. Modern
repro sleepers contain less toxic materials or non at all.
I would certainly try to prevent the soil leeching out the preservatives
particularly in the case of old sleepers.


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quoteWhat is the best thing to preserve UK railway sleepers (I'm not
sure of the
wood), the sleepers in question will be sunk in to the ground and
others
used as soil retainers.


Is it as simple as putting creosote on and maybe using some sort of
vapour
barrier between the soil and sleeper?

Creosote is now a banned substance in the UK, railway sleepers treated
with such are not allowed to be sold, so any you buy now, new or
secondhand, will be treated with less hazardous materials, but should
still be treated. In any case an untreated one will last for many
years, and provide food, hiding places for many insects.

Mike

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Old 16-07-2005, 02:04 PM
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quoteWhat is the best thing to preserve UK railway sleepers (I'm

not
sure of the
wood), the sleepers in question will be sunk in to the ground and
others
used as soil retainers.


Is it as simple as putting creosote on and maybe using some sort of
vapour
barrier between the soil and sleeper?

Creosote is now a banned substance in the UK, railway sleepers

treated
with such are not allowed to be sold, so any you buy now, new or
secondhand, will be treated with less hazardous materials, but

should
still be treated. In any case an untreated one will last for many
years,


...............and provide food, hiding places for many insects.


Oh well said Mike. A man after me own heart.
But, just wait for the howls of protest. :-))

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...............and provide food, hiding places for many insects.


Oh well said Mike. A man after me own heart.
But, just wait for the howls of protest. :-))


Not likely here.

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But, just wait for the howls of protest. :-))


It/'s a shame to disappoint him folks....WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

Lets hear ir for fleas YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
And vineweevils, cute ickle baby insects , AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Also, I am waving a banner, an Arran one, and wearing
sandals....shall I pierce an extremity, or are you feeling better now?

:~}


Janet





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Janet Baraclough wrote:
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from "ned" contains these words:

But, just wait for the howls of protest. :-))


It/'s a shame to disappoint him
folks....WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

Lets hear ir for fleas YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
And vineweevils, cute ickle baby insects , AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Also, I am waving a banner, an Arran one, and wearing
sandals....shall I pierce an extremity, or are you feeling better

now?

:~}


Why, I wonder, do some people think Usenet is a mechanism for
generating howls of protest? (No, OK, don't answer that: it's like
some little boys think a Peugeot hatchback is a mechanism for
generating rhythmic thuds. All I can say is, when I had one I didn't
use it that way, and I don't generally employ my bit of Usenet to get
howls of protest, either. I bet small-n ned has a Fiesta.)

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Mike Lyle wrote:
Janet Baraclough wrote:
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from "ned" contains these words:

But, just wait for the howls of protest. :-))


It/'s a shame to disappoint him
folks....WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

Lets hear ir for fleas YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
And vineweevils, cute ickle baby insects , AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Also, I am waving a banner, an Arran one, and wearing
sandals....shall I pierce an extremity,


................ Heaven forbid, Janet!

or are you feeling better
now?

:~}


Not really. I wasn't hoping for a howl. But, I thought it might be
inevitable.
I do a bit of gardening, so I lurk here ..... and learn. Never too old
for that.
But, I'm also a bit of an amateur naturalist and am aware that many
urglers are very focussed gardeners with little tolerance for the wild
world which intrudes into their domain. However, while I cut the lawn
and weed the borders and trim the hedges, I can still take great
pleasure from all the natural inhabitants I *share* my patch with.


Why, I wonder, do some people think Usenet is a mechanism for
generating howls of protest?


........ See above. :-)

(No, OK, don't answer that: it's like
some little boys think a Peugeot hatchback is a mechanism for
generating rhythmic thuds. All I can say is, when I had one I didn't
use it that way, and I don't generally employ my bit of Usenet to

get
howls of protest, either. I bet small-n ned has a Fiesta.)


Sorry big-M Mike big-L Lyle. Lost your bet, big time! :-)
'Got to admit that I started off with a 1936 Ford 8 but, that was some
50 years ago.

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Why, I wonder, do some people think Usenet is a mechanism for
generating howls of protest? (No, OK, don't answer that: it's like
some little boys think a Peugeot hatchback is a mechanism for
generating rhythmic thuds. All I can say is, when I had one I didn't
use it that way, and I don't generally employ my bit of Usenet to get
howls of protest, either. I bet small-n ned has a Fiesta.)


A short while ago one of those thud-thudmobiles stopped in traffic next
to me, all windows open, and I remarked "****'* * ***** **-*** *****
***'** *** *****!"

My words being inaudible, the passenger turned the volume down to zero,
and I repeated: "That's a nasty big-end knock you've got there!"

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