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Old 23-11-2003, 05:22 PM
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Hi,
I was just wondering if there is any special advice or impotant things to
know for taking care of bonsai during the winter. Is the winter an okay time
for pruning and wiring? Thanks for any advice.
From, Colin Horn
Orinda, CA

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Old 23-11-2003, 06:22 PM
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Hi,
I was just wondering if there is any special advice or impotant

things to
know for taking care of bonsai during the winter. Is the winter

an okay time
for pruning and wiring? Thanks for any advice.
From, Colin Horn
Orinda, CA


Go to the website at the bottom of this page. Scroll down to
Knowledge Base, then click on the articles (or whatever) and you
should find a long piece on winter care -- and spring, summer and
fall, for that matter.

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Old 23-11-2003, 06:22 PM
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In a message dated 11/23/2003 12:04:35 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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Hi,
I was just wondering if there is any special advice or important things to
know for taking care of bonsai during the winter. Is the winter an okay time
for pruning and wiring? Thanks for any advice.
From, Colin Horn
Orinda, CA


Many Bonsai books have species specific information, Yoshimura does
for example. However these directions are based upon Tokyo, Japan I think.
Where you are might be/is different.
This is part of the reason participation in a local club is so
important. The answer to this question depends upon the location and the species of
plant.
I don't dare repot a Juniper until late Dec. through mid Feb. I can't do
much with real tropicals until April - May because I am a little far north
(Zone 9B).
Pruning is the same way, over prune a Juniper or Boxwood anytime and I kill
it or get severe die back.
Wiring, I have to be careful most of the year because some things grow so
fast that wire cuts in weeks.
Billy on the Florida Space Coast

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Old 23-11-2003, 07:42 PM
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"Billy M. Rhodes" wrote:

In a message dated 11/23/2003 12:04:35 PM Eastern Standard Time,
writes:

Hi,
I was just wondering if there is any special advice or important things to
know for taking care of bonsai during the winter. Is the winter an okay time
for pruning and wiring? Thanks for any advice.
From, Colin Horn
Orinda, CA


Many Bonsai books have species specific information, Yoshimura does
for example. However these directions are based upon Tokyo, Japan I think.
Where you are might be/is different.
This is part of the reason participation in a local club is so
important. The answer to this question depends upon the location and the species of
plant.
I don't dare repot a Juniper until late Dec. through mid Feb. snip
Billy on the Florida Space Coast


This highlights how over-wintering conditions vary widely depending on where a person
lives. I'm in southern NY state, and while Billy is repotting his trees in
December-Feb. mine are frozen into their storage area. I don't have access to my trees
all winter. I can't do anything until the ground begins to thaw, usually in March. As
a result, I have to take greater pains to put my trees away for the winter than he
does.

Craig Cowing
NY
Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37

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Old 23-11-2003, 09:46 PM
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In a message dated 11/23/2003 2:15:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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I have to take greater pains to put my trees away for the winter than he
does.


I just finished packing my greenhouse with Orchids and Tropicals. I will
be away for Thanksgiving and there is always the danger of a very early frost.
If I wasn't leaving town I would probably wait almost a month.
The coldest day I have seen at my place was Christmas Day of 1989. It
went to 18 F in the early morning and didn't get above freezing all day.
I had fewer plants, didn't have my greenhouse finished, so the plants
sat it out in the garage.
The electric power company was having brown outs and people who had
only electric heat (as I do) were sending their children to stay with friends
who had gas heat.
We stayed home, bundled up and got through.
Jim Smith in Vero Beach, about 100 miles south of here, has a Ficus
salisifolia 89. A plant that went through that same cold snap in his place and
came back with different leaves.
Billy on the Florida Space Coast

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Old 23-11-2003, 10:42 PM
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"Billy M. Rhodes" wrote:

In a message dated 11/23/2003 2:15:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,
writes:

I have to take greater pains to put my trees away for the winter than he
does.


I just finished packing my greenhouse with Orchids and Tropicals. I will
be away for Thanksgiving and there is always the danger of a very early frost.
If I wasn't leaving town I would probably wait almost a month.


I didn't mean to imply that people in warmer areas don't have to do anything, but
I'd be willing to bet it doesn't involve as much as we have to do up here.

I have got most of my trees in storage in an area between a stone retaining wall
and the foundation of the house, mulched with leaves. This will fill with snow and
the whole thing will freeze solid. The trees in larger boxes will go against the
foundation of the house in another area, mulched with leaves.


The coldest day I have seen at my place was Christmas Day of 1989. It
went to 18 F in the early morning and didn't get above freezing all day.


Typical winter day here.


snip
Billy on the Florida Space Coast


Craig Cowing
NY
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Old 24-11-2003, 01:42 AM
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I do feel sorry for you Craig.... A small portion of my trees will go
into the garage sometimes after Thanksgiving, I guess...(we haven't had
that much cold weather...). But while you have idle hands, I will be
playing with my forty some tropicals in my heated, "Tree House" and
loving every minute of the winter. 8-)

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Craig Cowing wrote:

"Billy M. Rhodes" wrote:



In a message dated 11/23/2003 12:04:35 PM Eastern Standard Time,
writes:



Hi,
I was just wondering if there is any special advice or important things to
know for taking care of bonsai during the winter. Is the winter an okay time
for pruning and wiring? Thanks for any advice.
From, Colin Horn
Orinda, CA


Many Bonsai books have species specific information, Yoshimura does
for example. However these directions are based upon Tokyo, Japan I think.
Where you are might be/is different.
This is part of the reason participation in a local club is so
important. The answer to this question depends upon the location and the species of
plant.
I don't dare repot a Juniper until late Dec. through mid Feb. snip
Billy on the Florida Space Coast



This highlights how over-wintering conditions vary widely depending on where a person
lives. I'm in southern NY state, and while Billy is repotting his trees in
December-Feb. mine are frozen into their storage area. I don't have access to my trees
all winter. I can't do anything until the ground begins to thaw, usually in March. As
a result, I have to take greater pains to put my trees away for the winter than he
does.

Craig Cowing
NY
Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37






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Old 24-11-2003, 02:57 AM
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Carl L Rosner wrote:

I do feel sorry for you Craig.... A small portion of my trees will go
into the garage sometimes after Thanksgiving, I guess...(we haven't
had that much cold weather...). But while you have idle hands, I will
be playing with my forty some tropicals in my heated, "Tree House" and
loving every minute of the winter. 8-)


Carl L. Rosner-near Atlantic City zone 6/7
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Nothing to feel sorry about, Carl! I have three Kingsville boxwoods to
fool around with, along with assorted tropicals, a couple of jade
plants, and undoubtedly some more succulents will work their way into
the house during the winter! Plus, I have plenty of viewing stones I
can make daizas for.

Craig Cowing
NY
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Old 24-11-2003, 02:58 AM
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Ha! I don't really have a break where I can't do
anything. Out here in California, I went out and
weeded some of the stock plants today in the bright
sunshine, in a sweater, slacks and sandals. I planted
miniature iris in accent plant pots, 6” tall when they
bloom. Have to put the other bulbs in the frig, or
they will sprout. Most of my stuff still has leaves.
The elms go dormant in January, if at all. All my
maples are still clothed in their red leaves. I did
throw a sheet over the succulents as we may have a
frost tonight. Then the maples will show winter
silhouettes.

Kitsune Miko

--- Craig Cowing wrote:
Carl L Rosner wrote:

I do feel sorry for you Craig.... A small portion

of my trees will go
into the garage sometimes after Thanksgiving, I

guess...(we haven't
had that much cold weather...). But while you

have idle hands, I will
be playing with my forty some tropicals in my

heated, "Tree House" and
loving every minute of the winter. 8-)


Carl L. Rosner-near Atlantic City zone 6/7
http://bmee.net/rosner


Nothing to feel sorry about, Carl! I have three
Kingsville boxwoods to
fool around with, along with assorted tropicals, a
couple of jade
plants, and undoubtedly some more succulents will
work their way into
the house during the winter! Plus, I have plenty of
viewing stones I
can make daizas for.

Craig Cowing
NY
Zone 5b/6a Sunset 37


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Old 24-11-2003, 02:13 PM
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I didn't mean to imply that people in warmer areas don't have
to do anything, but
I'd be willing to bet it doesn't involve as much as we have to

do up here.


Hey, Craig . . .

None of us are complaining. And we'll concede that you have to
work at it. What we don't understand is why you put UP with it.

I'd be willing to bet that virtually none of us would ever give
up our "winter" season for one of yours. I know I wouldn't. If
I never see another snowflake on anything but a Christmas card,
I'll die happy.

jim - - whose wife is DRAGGING HIM KICKING
AND SCREAMING to a snowy Christmas at a West Virginia ski resort.
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Jim:

What we don't understand is why you put UP with it.

I'd be willing to bet that virtually none of us would ever give
up our "winter" season for one of yours. I know I wouldn't. If
I never see another snowflake on anything but a Christmas card,
I'll die happy.


I'm in South Dakota. The high today was 18F or so. With the winds, the
windchill was below zero most of the day. We just got 5 inches of snow...so
7 inches for the month now.

Winters aren't so bad. My wife, daughter, and I were outside yesterday
rolling around in the fluffy white stuff. It was relatively warm...around
20F.

This is about as far south as I want to live, and my wife informs me that
this is as far north as we're going to live, so we're pretty much stuck at
this latitude.

I can deal with the cold. Add another layer. On the other hand, I hate the
heat. After a certain point, public decency laws kick in and I'm told I
can't take any more clothes off. The only part that I'd really like to
trade away is the lack of sun in the winter. I don't like it when the sun
rises after 8a and sets before 4:30p.

Next year, I'm going to have to get some tropical plants so I can play with
'em during the winter. I'm afraid to buy any now...don't think they'd
survive the shipping.


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I find this discussion of winter interesting. I have always lived where the
winters were mild. (Central Florida and Southern California) except for two
winters as a child in coastal North Carolina.
I don't do cold or snow.
For Thanksgiving I am heading further south to the Ft. Lauderdale area.

Billy on the Florida Space Coast

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hmmm, not me, i can't wait for the white stuff, guess that's normal for us
up north. Bring on the snow!!!



"Billy M. Rhodes" wrote in message
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I find this discussion of winter interesting. I have always lived where

the
winters were mild. (Central Florida and Southern California) except for

two
winters as a child in coastal North Carolina.
I don't do cold or snow.
For Thanksgiving I am heading further south to the Ft. Lauderdale area.

Billy on the Florida Space Coast


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