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Old 01-06-2003, 05:20 PM
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That is not what we are talking about.

We am talking about neighbors making an effort to help out their elderly and
disabled neighbors who are unable to cut their grass and weeding their
flower beds by volunteering to help them by doing it for them. That would be
for the benefit of all and go a long way toward creating harmony rather than
silly feuds over nothing. People really need to make an effort toward not
being so selfish all the time and working together. Your own neighborhood
is a good place to start, don't you think so?

The law will eventually catch up with your gun happy sicko neighbor. The
kind of help he needs is the work of professionals, if you know what I mean.
He is an aberration not the norm.


animaux wrote in message
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On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 08:33:26 -0500, J Kolenovsky

wrote:


People have gotten away from going to the other person and discussing
one-on-one the problem at hand.


There is always a neighbor nobody wants to say anything to. Of course, he

lives
next door to us. He shoots doves out of trees and eats them, has a

stuffed wild
boar head complete with huge tusks over his fireplace and hangs dead deer

from
the basketball hoop in the driveway. I reported him and he has a citation

as a
result.

There are people you cannot talk to about anything.

This same neighbor trapped another neighbors' cat and dumped it many miles

away.
Of course I warned the idiots who let the cat out that this would happen

and it
did. When the cat owners approached the asshole neighbor he would not

tell them
where he dumped the poor cat. Then the cat thief pointed his rifle at

them and
threatened to shoot the man AND his wife.

So, the talking isn't always a good idea.




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Old 01-06-2003, 06:56 PM
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Cereoid-UR12yo wrote:

That is not what we are talking about.

We am talking about neighbors making an effort to help out their elderly and
disabled neighbors who are unable to cut their grass and weeding their
flower beds by volunteering to help them by doing it for them. That would be
for the benefit of all and go a long way toward creating harmony rather than
silly feuds over nothing. People really need to make an effort toward not
being so selfish all the time and working together. Your own neighborhood
is a good place to start, don't you think so?


I totally agree. I used to help a disabled neighbor with
bush trimming; they were very grateful. I was young &
strong then & seeing their happiness was nice. I enjoyed
deadheading their flowers & doing some weeding in their
perennial bed. They made me cookies, very kind of them.
Never thought I'd become disabled myself, but it happened.
I'm not that old either.
I can't mow a lawn very well anymore, but I can still
cook great meals. I'd be happy to trade good home-cooked
quality meals for someone to mow my lawn.

Minteeleaf, finally managed to get the lawn (3 feet tall) mowed after
nearly a month of solid rain. Maybe we should rent a sheep. :-)
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Old 01-06-2003, 07:32 PM
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(Frogleg) wrote:

On Sat, 31 May 2003 07:29:35 GMT,
(Dianna
Visek) wrote:


Our town was in the process of reworking its "nuisance vegetation"
ordinance. The first draft outlawed all plants that had any parts
poisonous or injurious to humans or animals. We would have been left
with nothing but lettuce!


Not even lettuce ... it has opiates in it, in low concentration.


That's the problem with wholesale legislation and regulation. When you
leave out common sense, things become nonsensical. Anyone with an
ounce of sense knows the difference between, say, ornamental grasses
used in a landscape design, and wild grasses growing high and
unattended and drying to present a fire hazard. The line between
"it's my property and I can do what I like" and "everyone must think
the same way I do" isn't a clear one. I think *most* people would be
agreeable to making minimal effort to be in tune with previailing
norms. This growing dependence on legislation and regulation is what
bothers me. It appears to be designed to relieve all involved from
thinking at all. A can be fined because he has more than 3 dandelion
plants per square yard in an area less than 10' from a public road. B
goes without sanction because he only has a back yard full of poison
ivy. There's also a diminishing effort for neighbors to actually
*talk* to each other, instead of calling the Codes department. You
have a problem? Sic the law on 'em. Don't go over and say, "did you
know there are water restrictions here now?" or "would you mind if I
trimmed your cottonwood tree?"



Tsu

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To doubt everything or to believe everything
are two equally convenient solutions; both
dispense with the necessity of reflection.
- Jules Henri Poincaré
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Old 01-06-2003, 07:32 PM
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On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 13:48:09 -0400, Minteeleaf
wrote:


I can't mow a lawn very well anymore, but I can still
cook great meals. I'd be happy to trade good home-cooked
quality meals for someone to mow my lawn.

Minteeleaf, finally managed to get the lawn (3 feet tall) mowed after
nearly a month of solid rain. Maybe we should rent a sheep. :-)


I think it would be better to start building an ark.....

It's going to be below freezing here tonight, I know it is.
The forecast is for 37. But the nearest weather station is
about 60 miles away, and about 800 feet lower in altitude.
Our temperatures generally run about 10 degrees colder than
the forecast.

All my tomatoes are out, in WalloWaters, but two of them
have grown out the top of the WoWs - the two Early Girls.
We will have to figure out some way to cover them. The
others will be OK.

The peppers will need to be covered too.

We'll almost need a boat to get to them, the garden is a
shallow lake with round islands (raised beds - we're using
tires this year). Sigh.

Pat


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Old 01-06-2003, 09:48 PM
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hwat is an epee?
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Why on earth does he hang dead deer from the basketball hoop? And why does
he get away with it?
Roz


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Old 02-06-2003, 01:08 AM
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Ah, yes. Then we are in perfect agreement. I do that for a woman who lost her
husband about three months ago. She doesn't know how to write a check or mow
her lawn. No comment!!!

We all plan to get her planted with some evergreen shrubs this fall. It is way
too late now to start a project like that in Texas.

I am all for helping someone who is not as well or young or whatever. I suppose
I read the thread with eyes wide shut.

V

On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 16:08:39 GMT, "Cereoid-UR12yo" wrote:

That is not what we are talking about.

We am talking about neighbors making an effort to help out their elderly and
disabled neighbors who are unable to cut their grass and weeding their
flower beds by volunteering to help them by doing it for them. That would be
for the benefit of all and go a long way toward creating harmony rather than
silly feuds over nothing. People really need to make an effort toward not
being so selfish all the time and working together. Your own neighborhood
is a good place to start, don't you think so?

The law will eventually catch up with your gun happy sicko neighbor. The
kind of help he needs is the work of professionals, if you know what I mean.
He is an aberration not the norm.


animaux wrote in message
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On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 08:33:26 -0500, J Kolenovsky

wrote:


People have gotten away from going to the other person and discussing
one-on-one the problem at hand.


There is always a neighbor nobody wants to say anything to. Of course, he

lives
next door to us. He shoots doves out of trees and eats them, has a

stuffed wild
boar head complete with huge tusks over his fireplace and hangs dead deer

from
the basketball hoop in the driveway. I reported him and he has a citation

as a
result.

There are people you cannot talk to about anything.

This same neighbor trapped another neighbors' cat and dumped it many miles

away.
Of course I warned the idiots who let the cat out that this would happen

and it
did. When the cat owners approached the asshole neighbor he would not

tell them
where he dumped the poor cat. Then the cat thief pointed his rifle at

them and
threatened to shoot the man AND his wife.

So, the talking isn't always a good idea.



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On Sun, 1 Jun 2003 13:51:25 -0700, " wrote:

Why on earth does he hang dead deer from the basketball hoop? And why does
he get away with it?
Roz


I guess he bleeds them. He didn't get away with it. I called the police and he
was given a ticket. I don't know, nor do I care how much of a ticket it was.
Imagine my complete and utter freak out when I went out one morning to water and
saw that poor thing hanging there with a bucket of blood under it. This guy is
such an asshole I can't drum up enough words to describe him.

Now he has this friggin trailer in his driveway. Our deed restrictions prevent
anyone for having a trailer in the drive for more than 48 hours. If it isn't
gone by August, I'm taking him to civil court.

Nobody, not one person in all 31 homes in our subdivision talk to or even look
at this idiot. Kids are not allowed to play with his kids. It's a mess.
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Old 02-06-2003, 01:08 AM
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On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 16:07:00 -0500, zxcvbob wrote:


Probably to clean it. (It makes more sense to me to hang it from a ceiling
joist inside the garage, but maybe he likes to make a public spectacle.)


He has little man complex, so that is exactly why he does it.


Cause it's not illegal?

Best regards,
Bob


It is illegal here in this town.
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"animaux" wrote in message
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On Sun, 1 Jun 2003 13:51:25 -0700, "

wrote:

Why on earth does he hang dead deer from the basketball hoop? And why

does
he get away with it?
Roz


I guess he bleeds them. He didn't get away with it. I called the police

and he
was given a ticket. I don't know, nor do I care how much of a ticket it

was.
Imagine my complete and utter freak out when I went out one morning to

water and
saw that poor thing hanging there with a bucket of blood under it. This

guy is
such an asshole I can't drum up enough words to describe him.

Now he has this friggin trailer in his driveway. Our deed restrictions

prevent
anyone for having a trailer in the drive for more than 48 hours. If it

isn't
gone by August, I'm taking him to civil court.


We have a similar restriction. Again, out of 150 homes, about three people
insist on violating the rules. I can understand if someone has to have a
trailer for a few days because they are in the middle of a project, but the
people who violate the rules just have one for the hell of it. I found out
this week that our township prohibits the parking of boats, trailers, or
commercial vehicles on residential property unless they are inside a
building or are fully screened and meet setback requirement (ie, they have
to be out of site, one a paved area, and a good distance from the street or
any neighboring property.) You might check with your zoning board and see
what the rules are in your area. You might only have to call the police,
saving you a lot of time and some money to pursue it in court.


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Vox Humana wrote:
"animaux" wrote in message
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On Sun, 1 Jun 2003 13:51:25 -0700, "


wrote:

Why on earth does he hang dead deer from the basketball hoop? And why


does

he get away with it?
Roz


I guess he bleeds them. He didn't get away with it. I called the police


and he

was given a ticket. I don't know, nor do I care how much of a ticket it


was.

Imagine my complete and utter freak out when I went out one morning to


water and

saw that poor thing hanging there with a bucket of blood under it. This


guy is

such an asshole I can't drum up enough words to describe him.

Now he has this friggin trailer in his driveway. Our deed restrictions


prevent

anyone for having a trailer in the drive for more than 48 hours. If it


isn't

gone by August, I'm taking him to civil court.



We have a similar restriction. Again, out of 150 homes, about three people
insist on violating the rules. I can understand if someone has to have a
trailer for a few days because they are in the middle of a project, but the
people who violate the rules just have one for the hell of it. I found out
this week that our township prohibits the parking of boats, trailers, or
commercial vehicles on residential property unless they are inside a
building or are fully screened and meet setback requirement (ie, they have
to be out of site, one a paved area, and a good distance from the street or
any neighboring property.) You might check with your zoning board and see
what the rules are in your area. You might only have to call the police,
saving you a lot of time and some money to pursue it in court.



Just to play devil's advocate, why is this any different than the "weed
police" everyone was ranting about yesterday?

I just can't see calling the cops to hassle someone over a deed
restriction. Even if the guy is an asshole. No, *especially* if he's an
asshole. It will just escalate, and he won't know when to stop.

Someone should have called the cops when he threatened folks with a gun.
But that's a criminal matter, not civil.

Best regards,
Bob




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