I want to landscape the final area of my garden previously covered in bark
chippings.

Two years ago I felled two large Leylandii trees - the stumps, 18 inches in
diameter, remain. They are a few inches out of the ground and attempts to
kill them with crystals added between the trunk and bark do not appear to
have been successful.

I want to lawn the area and plant apple trees.

Will they survive/grow?

How can I remove the stumps? There is no room/access for one of those fancy
stump removers.

Any advice would be appreciated please?

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"Kevin" wrote:

I want to landscape the final area of my garden previously covered in bark
chippings.

Two years ago I felled two large Leylandii trees - the stumps, 18 inches in
diameter, remain. They are a few inches out of the ground and attempts to
kill them with crystals added between the trunk and bark do not appear to
have been successful.

I want to lawn the area and plant apple trees.

Will they survive/grow?

How can I remove the stumps? There is no room/access for one of those fancy
stump removers.

Any advice would be appreciated please?


Dig it out?

Drill holes and add sodium nitrate for a slow burn ~ six months latter.

Drive copper nails into the stump?

You do not have to dig it out in the same day but axe and shovel
work can be dangerous.

Shoes with metal toes a good idea and other safety stuff may save you
and yours pain in the future.

Bill

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Thanks for your advice but these are serious roots/stumps and I don't think
practical to dig out.

"Kevin" wrote in message
...
I want to landscape the final area of my garden previously covered in bark
chippings.

Two years ago I felled two large Leylandii trees - the stumps, 18 inches
in
diameter, remain. They are a few inches out of the ground and attempts to
kill them with crystals added between the trunk and bark do not appear to
have been successful.

I want to lawn the area and plant apple trees.

Will they survive/grow?

How can I remove the stumps? There is no room/access for one of those
fancy
stump removers.

Any advice would be appreciated please?

use a hammer drill and the longest & widest drill bit you can find. Drill as
far down as you can go and do this a number of times. Fill the holes with
potassium nitrate and wait. It will take some time but will eventually rot
the stump out.

rob

Thank you Rob

Kevin wrote:

I want to landscape the final area of my garden previously covered in bark
chippings.

Two years ago I felled two large Leylandii trees - the stumps, 18 inches in
diameter, remain. They are a few inches out of the ground and attempts to
kill them with crystals added between the trunk and bark do not appear to
have been successful.

I want to lawn the area and plant apple trees.

Will they survive/grow?

How can I remove the stumps? There is no room/access for one of those fancy
stump removers.

Any advice would be appreciated please?



Are you certain a stump grinder can't be used? The 'nose' on the one I
rented was narrow enough to get in some tight spots.

Carl


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"Kevin" wrote in message
...
I want to landscape the final area of my garden previously covered in bark
chippings.

Two years ago I felled two large Leylandii trees - the stumps, 18 inches
in
diameter, remain. They are a few inches out of the ground and attempts to
kill them with crystals added between the trunk and bark do not appear to
have been successful.

I want to lawn the area and plant apple trees.

Will they survive/grow?

How can I remove the stumps? There is no room/access for one of those
fancy
stump removers.

The stumps are 18 inches across? - how is it you can't get a stump grinder
in there? It's not that big a stump for a tiller-type grinder.

Rental stump grinders are the size of - and look just like - a
gasoline-powered roto-tiller with a much smaller nose - a blade that's only
an inch wide at best, two inches with guard.

Rent a bigger hand-contolled stump grinder (don't get the cheapest little
one) and grind. And grind. And grind.
You want to have the blade teeth break off bits of wood from the stump
along the grain of the wood - and that is easiest done by chipping at the
edge of the stump, but not so far into the stump that the grinder blade will
pull the grinder up onto the stump.
The handles will buck some -- down if you are going at it right, in (this
is not getting the job done) if you are riding up onto the stump.
Depends on the blade size of the grinder, but going three-four inches
deep in the ground is a good depth to start.

Start in the dirt and sweep the blade into the closest edge of the
stump - Let the blade chip away wood from the near-side VERTICAL edge of the
stump, with enough down pressure to keep it chipping and not so much that it
will jump out of your hands - and don't bog the engine down. Steady and
patience.
Grind out an inch or less into the stump, and few inches deep across the
stump, sweeping back and forth, taking a bit out of the stump at each slow
and steady sweep.
..
You will probably only do a couple inches in a minute on a stump that
size, but that's five feet deep an hour.

15 minutes, each stump....

just keep chipping away at it.....


Any advice would be appreciated please?

How can I remove the stumps? There is no room/access for one of those fancy
stump removers.


Bullshit. The stump grinder that I rented is a walk behind unit which
can fit into any space.

On Feb 9, 10:34 am, Janet Baraclough
wrote:
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from "lwhaley" contains these words:



How can I remove the stumps? There is no room/access for one of
those fancy
stump removers.

Bullshit. The stump grinder that I rented is a walk behind unit which
can fit into any space.

Maybe the OP has a garden whose only access is through the house,
and up and down flights of stairs. That is not uncommon where old
terraced houses have been converted into apartments.

Even if the OP could get the stumpgrinder into the garden , it won't
fit, or won't be operable, through any gap narrower than itself.


Maybe the OP is a troll who made up the problem from his imagination.
Two 18 inch stumps and no room for a grinder??? Not practical to dig
out??? A garden with two 18" trees but no gate?? My answer to these
questions has been previously stated.

I am usually more polite but am sorry to say this looks like a troll.
I usually dont bother to reply to posts which make no sense, so please
forgive my impatience There have been many posts in this forum on
stump removal and they are easily searched.

On 9 Feb 2007 07:59:27 -0800, "lwhaley"
wrote:



How can I remove the stumps? There is no room/access for one of those fancy
stump removers.


Bullshit. The stump grinder that I rented is a walk behind unit which
can fit into any space.

I can put my legs behind my head in a yoga asana. I guess you can too
based on this assertion of fitting into any space.

On Feb 9, 2:54 pm, Janet Baraclough
wrote:
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from "lwhaley" contains these words:

A garden with two 18" trees but no gate??

Yes, why not? I've seen scores of city tenement gardens with much
bigger trees, and no gate, in older parts of UK cities. In Edinburgh, a
rectangle of tenement buildings was commonly built (in granite, lasts
forever) around an inner court. The inner court is divided by walls and
or iron railings, into small areas beloning to each tenement. The only
accesses to the gardens are through the buildings, via a winding stone
stair going down through the basement (or, a more modern fire-escape
from upper storeys).

Such back yards are at least a hundred years old, and the trees in them
which are not much younger, may be as high as the building.

Here's the problem with your scenario. We are talking about stumps
not trees. If we have a stump then we can assume that the tree was
removed. Access sufficient to remove such large trees would also
suffice for the much smaller stump grinder so any option which exists
for getting the grinder into the yard if they could get those large
trees out.

I will grant that there may be a very narrow situation where such a
thing would be impossible. Maybe the tree was removed with a crane.
Maybe there is a masonry fence with absolutely no gate. Then again,
maybe the poster made up the whole thing to get idiots like you and me
to argue it. That's a lot of maybes.

Considering the overall quality of the posts on this forum and on
usenet in general I believe the odds favor the troll. The two
standard ways to remove a stump are grinding or digging. I perform
these tasks routinely on my place and they are not difficult much less
impossible. I assure you that the machine in question is not a large
one and takes up little space, far less than the trees described. I
rent when I want a stump grinder so it is true that you need a truck
or car with a hitch. You can also hire a service which will grind
it.

There are other less common options which have been mentioned here and
on many other threads. Most involve drilling holes and filling with
fertilizer. Burning your stump can be a pleasure if you have a
bonfire planned anyway.

You can ignore your stumps and I usually do. Most species will rot in
place in a few years nothing wrong with that. Other species will put
out suckers from the stump or root system and they are more
persistent. In any case thank you for your opinion and all the
best.

On Feb 9, 3:47 pm, Jangchub wrote:
On 9 Feb 2007 07:59:27 -0800, "lwhaley"
wrote:



How can I remove the stumps? There is no room/access for one of those fancy
stump removers.

Bullshit. The stump grinder that I rented is a walk behind unit which
can fit into any space.

I can put my legs behind my head in a yoga asana. I guess you can too
based on this assertion of fitting into any space.

While I admit your comment is humorous I have to ask why you make
posts to the same forum under different name, eh Kevin?? Hows it
going with those "stumps"?? LOL A grinder could be rolled through
the house or lifted over the fence.