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Was inspired to search around for hanging basket plants from another
post and wanted to get an ID on the following.

http://www.mooseyscountrygarden.com/...ging-plant.jpg

and

http://www.andyandfrank.com/74%20han...ts%20&%20f.JPG

Thanks in advance!
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Scott Hildenbrand said:

Was inspired to search around for hanging basket plants from another
post and wanted to get an ID on the following.

http://www.mooseyscountrygarden.com/...ging-plant.jpg


Page hangs at "Waiting for www.mooseyscountrygarden.com".

and

http://www.andyandfrank.com/74%20han...ts%20&%20f.JPG


Either Petunia or Callibrachoa. Sorry, can't get a better grasp of the size
of the blooms (and, either makes a great basket).

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Eggs Zachtly wrote:
Scott Hildenbrand said:

Was inspired to search around for hanging basket plants from another
post and wanted to get an ID on the following.

http://www.mooseyscountrygarden.com/...ging-plant.jpg


Page hangs at "Waiting for www.mooseyscountrygarden.com".


Hanging page does not ID plants on it... That's why I asked..

http://www.mooseyscountrygarden.com/...re-london.html


and

http://www.andyandfrank.com/74%20han...ts%20&%20f.JPG


Either Petunia or Callibrachoa. Sorry, can't get a better grasp of the size
of the blooms (and, either makes a great basket).


Thanks..
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Scott Hildenbrand said:

Eggs Zachtly wrote:
Scott Hildenbrand said:

Was inspired to search around for hanging basket plants from another
post and wanted to get an ID on the following.

http://www.mooseyscountrygarden.com/...ging-plant.jpg


Page hangs at "Waiting for www.mooseyscountrygarden.com".


Hanging page does not ID plants on it... That's why I asked..

http://www.mooseyscountrygarden.com/...re-london.html


No idea. Sorry. =/

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On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:10:45 -0600, Scott Hildenbrand
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Was inspired to search around for hanging basket plants from another
post and wanted to get an ID on the following.

http://www.mooseyscountrygarden.com/...ging-plant.jpg

and

http://www.andyandfrank.com/74%20han...ts%20&%20f.JPG

Thanks in advance!



I may be way wrong, but it looks like an iceplant to me. I haven't
seen one grown as a hanging basket plant, but I don't know why it
couldn't be done.


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On 11/19/2007 12:10 PM, Scott Hildenbrand wrote:
Was inspired to search around for hanging basket plants from another
post and wanted to get an ID on the following.

http://www.mooseyscountrygarden.com/...ging-plant.jpg

and

http://www.andyandfrank.com/74%20han...ts%20&%20f.JPG

Thanks in advance!


As Charles indicated, the plant in mooseyscountrygarden appears to be an
iceplant, possibly Delosperma cooperi or Lampranthus spectabilis.

The flowers in andyandfrank look like cup flowers, Nierembergia
caerulea. However, the photo is not really close enough to be sure.
Nierembergia has a very fine, ferny leaf; I think I see leaves that are
too large in the photo. These might instead be a form of morning glory,
either Convolvulus tricolor or Ipomoea tricolor (the later reseeding
freely and becoming an invasive pest in the right climate).

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Scott Hildenbrand wrote:
Was inspired to search around for hanging basket plants from another
post and wanted to get an ID on the following.

http://www.mooseyscountrygarden.com/...ging-plant.jpg


and

http://www.andyandfrank.com/74%20han...ts%20&%20f.JPG

Thanks in advance!


Those are so pretty. That open air place with the hanging plants looks
so nice. I suppose you have to use a long wand to water them. They
have petunias in hanging planters downtown all over, and I was wondering
how they kept them looking so nice & how they water them. They never
seem to get ratty leaves, and I noticed one place near here has some
beautiful purple-veined ones that trail over a wall. They bloomed all
summer and never got ratty looking.

My petunias in a pot were pretty, then the leaves got so ratty looking
even though I cut them back and they kept blooming in spite of it.

I thought those ones could be million bells petunias, but I think the
other poster was probably correct that they are some small type of
morning glory. I might try some ice plant if that is what the first
picture is. I like it and the way it trails.


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HettieŽ wrote:


Scott Hildenbrand wrote:
Was inspired to search around for hanging basket plants from another
post and wanted to get an ID on the following.

http://www.mooseyscountrygarden.com/...ging-plant.jpg


and

http://www.andyandfrank.com/74%20han...ts%20&%20f.JPG

Thanks in advance!


Those are so pretty. That open air place with the hanging plants looks
so nice. I suppose you have to use a long wand to water them. They
have petunias in hanging planters downtown all over, and I was wondering
how they kept them looking so nice & how they water them. They never
seem to get ratty leaves, and I noticed one place near here has some
beautiful purple-veined ones that trail over a wall. They bloomed all
summer and never got ratty looking.

My petunias in a pot were pretty, then the leaves got so ratty looking
even though I cut them back and they kept blooming in spite of it.

I thought those ones could be million bells petunias, but I think the
other poster was probably correct that they are some small type of
morning glory. I might try some ice plant if that is what the first
picture is. I like it and the way it trails.




From the looks of it and after checking a pile of sites to verify, it
does seem to be an ice plant which more often than not is used as ground
cover.

Reminds me of my star stonecrop which I grow in a pot.. Looks great
trailing down the edge of the pot.
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Scott Hildenbrand wrote:


From the looks of it and after checking a pile of sites to verify, it
does seem to be an ice plant which more often than not is used as ground
cover.


I *think* I saw some seeds for ice plant in T&M catalog, will have to
check the specifics on that. Here I thought it might be some exotic
strain of trailing portulaca :-)

Reminds me of my star stonecrop which I grow in a pot.. Looks great
trailing down the edge of the pot.


Star stonecrop? I've never heard of that.


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HettieŽ wrote:


Scott Hildenbrand wrote:


From the looks of it and after checking a pile of sites to verify, it
does seem to be an ice plant which more often than not is used as
ground cover.


I *think* I saw some seeds for ice plant in T&M catalog, will have to
check the specifics on that. Here I thought it might be some exotic
strain of trailing portulaca :-)

Reminds me of my star stonecrop which I grow in a pot.. Looks great
trailing down the edge of the pot.


Star stonecrop? I've never heard of that.



Whoops.. Star Sedum, aka Stringy Stonecrop.. See, this is why it's best
to use proper names.. (goes to find out proper name)

Sedum sarmentosum

Doesn't flower long though and it's tiny. But does look good hanging,
just not much height mass.



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Scott Hildenbrand wrote:
HettieŽ wrote:



Scott Hildenbrand wrote:


From the looks of it and after checking a pile of sites to verify,
it does seem to be an ice plant which more often than not is used as
ground cover.



I *think* I saw some seeds for ice plant in T&M catalog, will have to
check the specifics on that. Here I thought it might be some exotic
strain of trailing portulaca :-)


Reminds me of my star stonecrop which I grow in a pot.. Looks great
trailing down the edge of the pot.



Star stonecrop? I've never heard of that.



Whoops.. Star Sedum, aka Stringy Stonecrop.. See, this is why it's best
to use proper names.. (goes to find out proper name)

Sedum sarmentosum

Doesn't flower long though and it's tiny. But does look good hanging,
just not much height mass.


Thanks for the explanation. For all I knew, you were growing stones in
your pots like I had to resort to in mine to keep the chipmunks out :-).
Except somehow I thought maybe you got yours to trail and were pulling
my leg. Ridiculous, I know. I'll see if I can find something about
that one. Am kind of on overload with seeds, roses & perennial plants I
want to try, have next year pretty well mapped out, if I only get half
of what I've got going, I'll be doing well. Plus I have to allow for
failures.

I was having good luck with iresine trailing, grows very fast and long
to the point you have to cut it back depending, but wasn't as pretty the
second year in a window box with pink geraniums, grew well enough, but
something wasn't as nice about it, texture and color. Roots easily in
water, had pots and pots of it, ended up giving much of it away. Anyway
I fed them some Osmocote and never saw such huge geraniums. I had to
cut the iresine back because it touches the ground, so maybe I'll come
across something I like better, not lobelia, 2 windowboxes are going to
be dedicated to only that, blue and white mixed. I recommend the
iresine for dappled shade, but it doesn't take kindly to too much sun.

The iresine roots like crazy in water if you want more. The first year,
when the afternoon sun hit it, it was pretty bright red towards autumn.
It starts out green. I'm open to something else, it's only two years
but think I might replant that box before I set it out next spring.

Ever notice how something looks good in a photo or where somebody else
is growing it, you try it, it sometimes doesn't look so good if it grows
at all?



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HettieŽ wrote:


Scott Hildenbrand wrote:
HettieŽ wrote:



Scott Hildenbrand wrote:


From the looks of it and after checking a pile of sites to verify,
it does seem to be an ice plant which more often than not is used as
ground cover.


I *think* I saw some seeds for ice plant in T&M catalog, will have to
check the specifics on that. Here I thought it might be some exotic
strain of trailing portulaca :-)


Reminds me of my star stonecrop which I grow in a pot.. Looks great
trailing down the edge of the pot.


Star stonecrop? I've never heard of that.



Whoops.. Star Sedum, aka Stringy Stonecrop.. See, this is why it's
best to use proper names.. (goes to find out proper name)

Sedum sarmentosum

Doesn't flower long though and it's tiny. But does look good hanging,
just not much height mass.


Thanks for the explanation. For all I knew, you were growing stones in
your pots like I had to resort to in mine to keep the chipmunks out :-).
Except somehow I thought maybe you got yours to trail and were pulling
my leg. Ridiculous, I know. I'll see if I can find something about
that one. Am kind of on overload with seeds, roses & perennial plants I
want to try, have next year pretty well mapped out, if I only get half
of what I've got going, I'll be doing well. Plus I have to allow for
failures.


Well with a little work I'm sure I can get rocks to trail. In fact if
I'm bored one day I just might do that to see how it looks..

Know the overloaded feeling.. Since we moved and have so much more space
now, all kinds of things are popping into my head that I'd like to try.

One section of roof on the house over an addition is flat, so I'm even
thinking of bordering it with planter boxes all around the edge.. Who
knows.. Maybe later. Sometime..


I was having good luck with iresine trailing, grows very fast and long
to the point you have to cut it back depending, but wasn't as pretty the
second year in a window box with pink geraniums, grew well enough, but
something wasn't as nice about it, texture and color. Roots easily in
water, had pots and pots of it, ended up giving much of it away. Anyway
I fed them some Osmocote and never saw such huge geraniums. I had to
cut the iresine back because it touches the ground, so maybe I'll come
across something I like better, not lobelia, 2 windowboxes are going to
be dedicated to only that, blue and white mixed. I recommend the
iresine for dappled shade, but it doesn't take kindly to too much sun.


Think I've got some of that in a hanging basket that we brought in to
over winter. Could be wrong, forget the name.. Frost ended up nipping
the bulk of the growth but it'll spring back without issue.. Already
putting on new growth inside. Has a lovely burgundy color.

The iresine roots like crazy in water if you want more. The first year,
when the afternoon sun hit it, it was pretty bright red towards autumn.
It starts out green. I'm open to something else, it's only two years
but think I might replant that box before I set it out next spring.


Yup.. Grows like a weed and is easy to make new starts.. I don't even
bother with water and just put it in the dirt.. Same with the sedum I
mentioned. All you need to do with it is put it in the dirt in a nice
sunny area and it will thrive with no attention.

Ever notice how something looks good in a photo or where somebody else
is growing it, you try it, it sometimes doesn't look so good if it grows
at all?


No? I had noticed that if iresine (if that is what I have) gets a
wasted look if it gets too much sun.. Had it in a bad location for a bit
, when I moved it under the trees it looked much better after a while.

Oh well though.. A little experimentation in plantings is always fun..
So long as it doesn't run rampant and take over.
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Well with a little work I'm sure I can get rocks to trail. In fact if
I'm bored one day I just might do that to see how it looks..

Know the overloaded feeling.. Since we moved and have so much more space
now, all kinds of things are popping into my head that I'd like to try.


Yes, it isn't so much fun when you are tired and have other heavy chores
to get done before the snow flies. For me, even smaller jobs are a heck
of a lot of work. Grass coming up through chicken wire isn't such a big
deal, but after all I went through planting over 200 bulbs, trying to do
it right, reading up on how to keep tulips going, my heart just sank.


One section of roof on the house over an addition is flat, so I'm even
thinking of bordering it with planter boxes all around the edge.. Who
knows.. Maybe later. Sometime..


I love window boxes, wanted them all around the house, and it would
look nice, but they require too much watering. Diapers, crystals,
enough is enough for now. I wonder what else you could do with that
roof. Something in deeper planters with rocks on top would not have to
be watered as often.

Maybe I'll give the iresine that's left another chance, got fed up with
one pot and just let it cook. As soon as the geraniums are finished
blooming in the house, I'll cut them way back and move it all out of the
sun.

Funny, I finally rooted one piece in dirt, stuck a piece in a window box
under a porch overhang mind you (shade then hot afternoon sun), it
rooted all right, then didn't do a thing the rest of the summer. Just
sticks up like it's had enough of me :-).

I'll see what that sedum is about. Lucky you, all that new area to
dream big dreams. I have a small yard and have developed a passion for
rooting rose cuttings, gaining on that, and now there will be few places
to put them so I'll have to give them away, same with the 24 redbud
seedlings I've nurtured all summer.

I'm worried about them. Have them in pepsi bottles with 6 good-sized
holes burned in the bottom. Ideally I should sink them in the ground
and yank them in spring but am just too tired to dig that much out,
don't have a cold frame, don't feel up to rigging something up with
straw bales & old storm or plastic. What to do? I don't want to buy
the trencher for my tiller because I don't know if I'd get enough use
from it.

I suppose plunging them in my huge leaf cages isn't a good idea either,
an unheated garage, not the best and I think I have to water once a
month, everywhere in the house too warm unless you think a storage area
in the basement with a crack in the east window with a high shelf might
work. I'd hate to lose them after all the effort I put into getting
them this far.

Skipped over your other but not that it wasn't interesting. I will look
into the sedum, I love easy-to-root stuff, but it will have to wait. I
snipped 6 shoots of coleus from a neighbor who wasn't going to get
around to doing anything with his, there it just sits in water, 3 weeks
now about, change it often, wilted on top, no roots, even had an
aquarium bubbler going, finally took that out, didn't want to squander
the little rooting hormone I had left, people say it is easy to root
without it, will buy fresh next spring.

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HettieŽ wrote:


Scott Hildenbrand wrote:


Well with a little work I'm sure I can get rocks to trail. In fact if
I'm bored one day I just might do that to see how it looks..

Know the overloaded feeling.. Since we moved and have so much more
space now, all kinds of things are popping into my head that I'd like
to try.


Yes, it isn't so much fun when you are tired and have other heavy chores
to get done before the snow flies. For me, even smaller jobs are a heck
of a lot of work. Grass coming up through chicken wire isn't such a big
deal, but after all I went through planting over 200 bulbs, trying to do
it right, reading up on how to keep tulips going, my heart just sank.


Instead of tilling the sod under, cut it out and remove it.. That's the
best way to make sure the grass doesn't come back.. But then, that
depends on the grass, if it's bunch growing or if it spreads via runner.

Either way, stinks to have to do cleanup work on something that's
already done.. Been there, done that..


One section of roof on the house over an addition is flat, so I'm even
thinking of bordering it with planter boxes all around the edge.. Who
knows.. Maybe later. Sometime..


I love window boxes, wanted them all around the house, and it would look
nice, but they require too much watering. Diapers, crystals, enough is
enough for now. I wonder what else you could do with that roof.
Something in deeper planters with rocks on top would not have to be
watered as often.


I'm going to build a loooong one for the front window here, plus
shutters.. Thing that I'd noticed with planter flower is that it's best
to pick things which don't require hardly any care, especially those in
harsh sun.

Maybe I'll give the iresine that's left another chance, got fed up with
one pot and just let it cook. As soon as the geraniums are finished
blooming in the house, I'll cut them way back and move it all out of the
sun.


Sounds like too much sun to me.. What I have, I didn't watter at all
since we'd moved besides during the drought. It thrived in its shady
location.

Funny, I finally rooted one piece in dirt, stuck a piece in a window box
under a porch overhang mind you (shade then hot afternoon sun), it
rooted all right, then didn't do a thing the rest of the summer. Just
sticks up like it's had enough of me :-).

I'll see what that sedum is about. Lucky you, all that new area to
dream big dreams. I have a small yard and have developed a passion for
rooting rose cuttings, gaining on that, and now there will be few places
to put them so I'll have to give them away, same with the 24 redbud
seedlings I've nurtured all summer.


We had a small yard, which I'd have done more with... Well, but the
house was her ex's which carried a stigma to it.. I found it hard to
take pride in anything I did to it. Odd, huh?

Anyway, I could have done much more to it..

I'm worried about them. Have them in pepsi bottles with 6 good-sized
holes burned in the bottom. Ideally I should sink them in the ground
and yank them in spring but am just too tired to dig that much out,
don't have a cold frame, don't feel up to rigging something up with
straw bales & old storm or plastic. What to do? I don't want to buy
the trencher for my tiller because I don't know if I'd get enough use
from it.

I suppose plunging them in my huge leaf cages isn't a good idea either,
an unheated garage, not the best and I think I have to water once a
month, everywhere in the house too warm unless you think a storage area
in the basement with a crack in the east window with a high shelf might
work. I'd hate to lose them after all the effort I put into getting
them this far.


Never messed with redbuds.. Or trees from seedlings for that matter..
Why do you think in the house would be "too warm"? I'd think too cold
would be the issue at hand. But then, don't know much about those.

Skipped over your other but not that it wasn't interesting. I will look
into the sedum, I love easy-to-root stuff, but it will have to wait. I
snipped 6 shoots of coleus from a neighbor who wasn't going to get
around to doing anything with his, there it just sits in water, 3 weeks
now about, change it often, wilted on top, no roots, even had an
aquarium bubbler going, finally took that out, didn't want to squander
the little rooting hormone I had left, people say it is easy to root
without it, will buy fresh next spring.


Going to see if I can mail some starts next season. I'll end up posting
to the list to see if anyone wants any.. Have a surplus ATM, but it's
dying back for winter.
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Scott Hildenbrand wrote:
HettieŽ wrote:



Scott Hildenbrand wrote:


Well with a little work I'm sure I can get rocks to trail. In fact if
I'm bored one day I just might do that to see how it looks..

Know the overloaded feeling.. Since we moved and have so much more
space now, all kinds of things are popping into my head that I'd like
to try.



Yes, it isn't so much fun when you are tired and have other heavy
chores to get done before the snow flies. For me, even smaller jobs
are a heck of a lot of work. Grass coming up through chicken wire
isn't such a big deal, but after all I went through planting over 200
bulbs, trying to do it right, reading up on how to keep tulips going,
my heart just sank.



Instead of tilling the sod under, cut it out and remove it.. That's the
best way to make sure the grass doesn't come back.. But then, that
depends on the grass, if it's bunch growing or if it spreads via runner.


That's what I should have done even though it was mostly brown from
being covered, stuff is stubborn. I recycle my potting mixture into
compost and found some garlic chives that have gone months without
water, stuck them on top of some soil, put in east window, watered them,
and they took off again.



I'm going to build a loooong one for the front window here, plus
shutters.. Thing that I'd noticed with planter flower is that it's best
to pick things which don't require hardly any care, especially those in
harsh sun.


My son was going to do that for some pretty iron grill facing south
relected against light tan stucco. Like it will be hot up there. I
asked for suggestions for suitable plants for him. I remember
angelonia? & sweet potato vine, things that don't need constant
watering, trail, etc., might be able to find that again.

That sounds really pretty, a long window box and shutters. Maybe you
can rig up a drip system with clear plastic tubing?





Sounds like too much sun to me.. What I have, I didn't watter at all
since we'd moved besides during the drought. It thrived in its shady
location.


Yes, too much sun. It can tolerate a certain amount of drought. Mine
drooped when I was slow to water the rooted ones inside, they snapped
right back. They were happy in the east window dining room windows,
sunroom was too sunny and hot for them but not as bad as outside.


We had a small yard, which I'd have done more with... Well, but the
house was her ex's which carried a stigma to it.. I found it hard to
take pride in anything I did to it. Odd, huh?


No. You need to start fresh. Usually enough baggage as it is. I wish
you well.


Anyway, I could have done much more to it..


I'm not good at planning, better once it's in, oh I should have . . .



Never messed with redbuds.. Or trees from seedlings for that matter..
Why do you think in the house would be "too warm"? I'd think too cold
would be the issue at hand. But then, don't know much about those.


I never grew trees from seeds before but some people told me to rub them
with sandpaper. It worked great. Eastern redbuds are more northern,
and I would think they would prefer a simulated northern environment
from the git go, hot and cold cycles. I could bring them into the
house, easier to monitor them for the first winter. I kept rose
cuttings in the sunroom last winter, now they will have to tough it out
their first winter outside, thought I was disrupting their natural cycle
by doing that but justified that the roses I buy from Texas that are
hardy in my zone have been bred in milder temps and have to adapt
anyway. I think redbuds are tough. I could get some cheap on ebay from
somebody across the river for gosh sakes, but I wanted the fun of
watching them grow.


Going to see if I can mail some starts next season. I'll end up posting
to the list to see if anyone wants any.. Have a surplus ATM, but it's
dying back for winter.


I've never been real keen on coleus but have seen it used effectively.
This was my neighbor's, he's young and busy, and I hoped I could have a
couple for myself and give him the rest back for next year. I don't
have a spot for them anyway. I don't have a spot for 24 redbuds either.
We have a boulevard, and if I get them far enough along, I will see if
I can fill in where they have cut some trees from a neighborhood project
years ago. Then I got to thinking smallish trees might branch out too
much over the street. My daughter wants a couple. I can find spots for
about two. I have a farm, but I tried to plant trees there before and I
can't drive 50 miles to water, weed, and mulch. Well, I could, but you
know how it goes.

If I really get roses and lilies and other things going strong, I am
going to have to think about the farm. I even looked at some cheap city
lots in rundown neighborhoods, but think I'd be taking on too much. If
weeds get out of control on the farm, nobody gets on my case. Not so
the city.

I'm licking my wounds. A lady gave me six cuttings of a gorgeous repeat
rose, very doube and deep pink/cerise, and they all died (I'm guessing I
had them too tall and medium too wet for how I am doing this batch. I
took two of one I didn't particularly like as well, mostly because it
was a rose with unusual foliage, at least two more sets of leaves and
deeply veined, lush grayish green. One I look at today and large roots
growing through the holes, so I potted that one up, didn't think that
mess of dry leaves had a snowball's chance in you know what of rooting.
Her bushes were languishing, and I begged for cuttings before she
whacked them because I needed ones with leaves so I thought. Then I
thought too late to ask her for all she whacked off the two ones I liked
the best (same rose), hoping to revitalize them. So I'm SOL on those,
and I don't know if she will give me any more for a long time. I'm
getting older, I may not have a long time.

I guess you have to roll with the punches. I didn't expect so many
failures and setbacks with all my planning. I didn't want to spray my
roses, and they got hit with almost everything, and didn't factor in
trees which were leafless when I planned it out. Duh. The two in front
that get the most sun are doing the best, rest look awful and ravaged,
expensive Austin roses. At least I'm learning a lot from it, my
mistakes included.

I kind of envy you having all that room, but I'd better just be thankful
I have what I do. I could grow more if I cut down some trees, no have
to work around the trees for now.

I LOVE lilacs, have just one common purple one, would like at least six.
Sorry I made this too long. I get so enthused just thinking about
some of it.


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