Corrupt administration?! , you forgot Clinton left the white house
three years ago!

Hillary is not the president any more!!!!!!!!

On Thu, 20 May 2004 12:24:42 GMT, escapee
wrote:

Ignore posts you are not interested in. No newsgroup is ever completely on
topic unless it is moderated. That being the case, currently world problems are
being led with great force of the US and since we are in the US, it is being
discussed. I have yet to see a newsgroup this year which does not have some
aspect of discussion regarding the current president and his corrupt
administration.


On Wed, 19 May 2004 19:57:19 -0400, Michelle opined:

Did hitler or George bush have a garden or somthing how does this tie
into REC GARDENS? just curious or is this a forum on the marine
corps and their moto
"Blood makes the grass grow KILL KILL KILL"
I suppose that ties into gardening some how .....
:-)
How come the posts on this group that have nothing to do with
My husband is a marine so that's how I know that's their Moto.
On Tue, 18 May 2004 12:56:15 -0400, "eclectic"
wrote:


"escapee" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 16 May 2004 15:51:46 GMT, Strider opined:

WWIII started on 9/11/01, you pinhead. Bush is the only candidate
willing to win this war.

A vote for Kerry is a de facto vote for bin Laden.

Strider

Uh, the war started on 9-11-01 with Afghanistan, not Iraq. Get YOUR facts
straight. There is no winning a war on terrorism. That's as idiotic as this
war on drugs. Puleeze.

Isn't there an irony here that the war on terrorism in Afghanistan has
undermined the war on drugs since more poppies being cultivated
now in Afghanistan?

http://www.infoshout.com/the_toll.htm

--
rosie
http://www.theawfultruth.com/





"Michelle" wrote in message

Let's see...blow job, false war...hmmm. Bush should be impeached, Cheney should
be exposed for the liar he is, and Rummey should go directly to jail.


On Thu, 20 May 2004 16:57:31 -0400, Michelle opined:

Corrupt administration?! , you forgot Clinton left the white house
three years ago!

Hillary is not the president any more!!!!!!!!

On Thu, 20 May 2004 12:24:42 GMT, escapee
wrote:

Ignore posts you are not interested in. No newsgroup is ever completely on
topic unless it is moderated. That being the case, currently world problems are
being led with great force of the US and since we are in the US, it is being
discussed. I have yet to see a newsgroup this year which does not have some
aspect of discussion regarding the current president and his corrupt
administration.


On Wed, 19 May 2004 19:57:19 -0400, Michelle opined:

Did hitler or George bush have a garden or somthing how does this tie
into REC GARDENS? just curious or is this a forum on the marine
corps and their moto
"Blood makes the grass grow KILL KILL KILL"
I suppose that ties into gardening some how .....
:-)
How come the posts on this group that have nothing to do with
My husband is a marine so that's how I know that's their Moto.
On Tue, 18 May 2004 12:56:15 -0400, "eclectic"
wrote:


"escapee" wrote in message
m...
On Sun, 16 May 2004 15:51:46 GMT, Strider opined:

WWIII started on 9/11/01, you pinhead. Bush is the only candidate
willing to win this war.

A vote for Kerry is a de facto vote for bin Laden.

Strider

Uh, the war started on 9-11-01 with Afghanistan, not Iraq. Get YOUR facts
straight. There is no winning a war on terrorism. That's as idiotic as this
war on drugs. Puleeze.

Isn't there an irony here that the war on terrorism in Afghanistan has
undermined the war on drugs since more poppies being cultivated
now in Afghanistan?

Typical Republi-Nazi gibberish.

By the time Clinton left office gas prices went down and the national
economy was in the black with employment going up.

Under that nitwit Dubaya, exactly the opposite has happened.

Who do you think was the better president? The proof is in the numbers.

"Michelle" wrote in message
...
Corrupt administration?! , you forgot Clinton left the white house
three years ago!

Hillary is not the president any more!!!!!!!!

On Thu, 20 May 2004 12:24:42 GMT, escapee
wrote:

Ignore posts you are not interested in. No newsgroup is ever completely
on
topic unless it is moderated. That being the case, currently world
problems are
being led with great force of the US and since we are in the US, it is
being
discussed. I have yet to see a newsgroup this year which does not have
some
aspect of discussion regarding the current president and his corrupt
administration.


On Wed, 19 May 2004 19:57:19 -0400, Michelle
opined:

Did hitler or George bush have a garden or somthing how does this tie
into REC GARDENS? just curious or is this a forum on the marine
corps and their moto
"Blood makes the grass grow KILL KILL KILL"
I suppose that ties into gardening some how .....
:-)
How come the posts on this group that have nothing to do with
My husband is a marine so that's how I know that's their Moto.
On Tue, 18 May 2004 12:56:15 -0400, "eclectic"
wrote:


"escapee" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 16 May 2004 15:51:46 GMT, Strider opined:

WWIII started on 9/11/01, you pinhead. Bush is the only candidate
willing to win this war.

A vote for Kerry is a de facto vote for bin Laden.

Strider

Uh, the war started on 9-11-01 with Afghanistan, not Iraq. Get YOUR
facts
straight. There is no winning a war on terrorism. That's as idiotic
as this
war on drugs. Puleeze.

Isn't there an irony here that the war on terrorism in Afghanistan has
undermined the war on drugs since more poppies being cultivated
now in Afghanistan?

On Thu, 20 May 2004 22:32:27 GMT, "rosie"
wrote:
"escapee" wrote in message
.. .
: Let's see...blow job, false war...hmmm. Bush should be impeached,
Cheney should
: be exposed for the liar he is, and Rummey should go directly to
jail.
AMEN!
http://www.infoshout.com/the_toll.htm

And you'll start wearing a veil?

Swyck

On Fri, 21 May 2004 12:12:07 -0400, opined:

On Thu, 20 May 2004 22:32:27 GMT, "rosie"
wrote:
"escapee" wrote in message
. ..
: Let's see...blow job, false war...hmmm. Bush should be impeached,
Cheney should
: be exposed for the liar he is, and Rummey should go directly to
jail.
AMEN!
http://www.infoshout.com/the_toll.htm

And you'll start wearing a veil?

Swyck

Wearing a veil? No, wanna know why, because people in far off lands don't try
to bully their way in to our culture and change it. Fanatics like Osama Bin
Laden are not normal anything, let along Muslim. I have the freedom to wear a
veil or not. What they do in their nation is their culture.

I don't see anyone going in and helping Tibet to be free of Chinese oppression.
Oh, nothing in those cold mountains. Hmmm.

On Fri, 21 May 2004 20:55:22 GMT, escapee
wrote:
On Fri, 21 May 2004 12:12:07 -0400, opined:
On Thu, 20 May 2004 22:32:27 GMT, "rosie"
wrote:
"escapee" wrote in message
...
: Let's see...blow job, false war...hmmm. Bush should be impeached,
Cheney should
: be exposed for the liar he is, and Rummey should go directly to
jail.
AMEN!
http://www.infoshout.com/the_toll.htm

And you'll start wearing a veil?
Swyck
Wearing a veil? No, wanna know why, because people in far off lands don't try
to bully their way in to our culture and change it. Fanatics like Osama Bin
Laden are not normal anything, let along Muslim. I have the freedom to wear a
veil or not. What they do in their nation is their culture.
They don't not because they don't want to, but because they'll get
their buts kicked. If they had their way you wouldn't have a choice.
I don't see anyone going in and helping Tibet to be free of Chinese oppression.
Oh, nothing in those cold mountains. Hmmm.
That's true, but I guarantee you we're keeping an eye on the Chinese
trying anything against us. Again, its not that the Chinese don't
want to.

Swyck

On Sat, 22 May 2004 08:34:41 -0400, opined:


They don't not because they don't want to, but because they'll get
their buts kicked. If they had their way you wouldn't have a choice.

They don't not? In case you didn't know, Iraq is a Muslim nation. In case you
didn't know, we don't CARE about women who wear veils. That's NOT why we are
there. We went to kill at first, then it changed to "we're there to free the
Iraqi people..." and THAT was to divert limited thinkers away from the fact that
there are NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. It only turned into a humanitarian
effort after their silly debacle backfired. Remember, Collin Powell in front of
the UN and his "convincing evidence" of traveling labs? Wake up.

I don't see anyone going in and helping Tibet to be free of Chinese oppression.
Oh, nothing in those cold mountains. Hmmm.

That's true, but I guarantee you we're keeping an eye on the Chinese
trying anything against us. Again, its not that the Chinese don't
want to.

Swyck

Oh, now we're back to defending our freedom. I see. The idiot who runs our
country had a fulll 25 minutes to call our for air support in New York, which I
believe is already a no fly zone, without permission. If he tore himself from
reading to children immediately, like he should have, we might have been able to
do something about the second tower. That's what a leader does. He doesn't ask
God questions, then hear God's answers. I find it very frightening that we have
a man running our country who says God told him he was going to be president.
Holy shit Batman.

How old are you, anyway?

"escapee" wrote

On 17 May 2004 17:12:46 GMT, (Jeffrey C. Dege) opined:

Yes. And why we're doing what we're doing in Kuwait and Yemen and Syria
and Saudi Arabia and Jordan and Sudan and Pakistan anbd Afghanistan and
Morocco and the Phillipines.

It's all one problem and all one war.

Iraq is simply one front.

What are we doing in Saudi Arabia? Enlighten me.

Seems to me that at least one goal of the Iraq war is to get us out of Saudi
Arabia permanently by establishing operations in another major oil
producing, strategically-located country.

Bob

On Sat, 22 May 2004 10:50:41 -0500, "Bob Ahnmeischaft"
opined:


"escapee" wrote

On 17 May 2004 17:12:46 GMT, (Jeffrey C. Dege) opined:

Yes. And why we're doing what we're doing in Kuwait and Yemen and Syria
and Saudi Arabia and Jordan and Sudan and Pakistan anbd Afghanistan and
Morocco and the Phillipines.

It's all one problem and all one war.

Iraq is simply one front.

What are we doing in Saudi Arabia? Enlighten me.

Seems to me that at least one goal of the Iraq war is to get us out of Saudi
Arabia permanently by establishing operations in another major oil
producing, strategically-located country.

Bob


Instead of using research and development to come up with other rational ideas
for energy? Ah. I see.

"escapee" wrote in message
...

(snip)
Oh, now we're back to defending our freedom. I see. The idiot who runs our
country had a fulll 25 minutes to call our for air support in New York, which
I believe is already a no fly zone, without permission. If he tore himself
from reading to children immediately, like he should have, we might have been
able to do something about the second tower.
(snip)

While Dubaya Bush needs to stand up and take some responsibility as
Commander-in-Chief, the responsibility for a mess this big can be spread
around wide.

Do you remember a news item in 1994 of Islamic terrorists trying to crash a
plane fully loaded with fuel into Paris, hoping to hit the Eiffel Tower? (This
followed the 1993 attack by Islamic terrorists who set off a bomb in the WTO
underground garage.)

When the French story first broke here, the radio news correspondent said US
contacts had informed him that other world targets were planned, including
some in the US. The correspondent *speculated* that Washington D.C. and the
WTO might be considered targets. This comment was removed from subsequent
broadcasts.

The current administration would prefer us to ignore this warning sign.

http://www.pro-war.com/prowardotcom/...was_reall.html

Regards.

escapee expounded:

Instead of using research and development to come up with other rational ideas
for energy? Ah. I see.

Hear, hear!

--
Ann, Gardening in zone 6a
Just south of Boston, MA
********************************

On Sat, 22 May 2004 14:19:39 GMT, escapee
wrote:

On Sat, 22 May 2004 08:34:41 -0400, opined:
They don't not because they don't want to, but because they'll get
their buts kicked. If they had their way you wouldn't have a choice.

They don't not? In case you didn't know, Iraq is a Muslim nation. In case you
didn't know, we don't CARE about women who wear veils. That's NOT why we are
there. We went to kill at first, then it changed to "we're there to free the
Iraqi people..." and THAT was to divert limited thinkers away from the fact that
there are NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. It only turned into a humanitarian
effort after their silly debacle backfired. Remember, Collin Powell in front of
the UN and his "convincing evidence" of traveling labs? Wake up.

I don't see anyone going in and helping Tibet to be free of Chinese oppression.
Oh, nothing in those cold mountains. Hmmm.

That's true, but I guarantee you we're keeping an eye on the Chinese
trying anything against us. Again, its not that the Chinese don't
want to.

Swyck

Oh, now we're back to defending our freedom. I see. The idiot who runs our
country had a fulll 25 minutes to call our for air support in New York, which I
believe is already a no fly zone, without permission. If he tore himself from
reading to children immediately, like he should have, we might have been able to
do something about the second tower. That's what a leader does. He doesn't ask
God questions, then hear God's answers. I find it very frightening that we have
a man running our country who says God told him he was going to be president.
Holy shit Batman.
Defending our freedom has always been the issue, and the freedom from
being attacked again is at the top of the list.

The idea that a president pre-911 would have shot down a civilian
plane is absurd. Doing a monday morning QB dissection of how many
seconds it should have taken to happen is meaningless. It didn't
happen. Would Clinton or Gore or anyone else have done better? We
won't know, and I doubt it.

Even he could have, it wouldn't have changed the fact of the attempt
itself. Bush didn't fly those planes, or order them to be flown into
the WTC. I don't see that he should bear the blame for that, or that
it absolves the attackers -- the enemy that you want to pretend don't
exist -- of the responsibility for these actions.
How old are you, anyway?
Old enough to vote and old enough not to confuse wishful thinking with
reality.

Swyck

On Mon, 24 May 2004 12:41:16 -0400, opined:


Defending our freedom has always been the issue, and the freedom from
being attacked again is at the top of the list.

Please, to make it easier, leave a space between the post you are responding to.
That said, Iraq didn't attack us. A Saudi Arabian man named Osama Bin Laden
attacked us. His base camp was in Afghanistan, and we went in to conquer the
Taliban, which we did. Case closed.

All of a sudden, there was not enough recovery to do in our own country after
9-11, our president decided to go after Hussein and his weapons of mass
destruction, which never existed, which they knew never existed, and to please
the Bush Fedayeen and daddy Bush, we went in to "root 'em out and bring 'em on."
At what expense? The expense of about 7 thousand dead Iraqi's and a thousand of
our own, with virtually no support from anywhere else in the world. A scant
handful of "coalition forces." Poor Tony Blair.

The idea that a president pre-911 would have shot down a civilian
plane is absurd. Doing a monday morning QB dissection of how many
seconds it should have taken to happen is meaningless. It didn't
happen. Would Clinton or Gore or anyone else have done better? We
won't know, and I doubt it.

Yes, Clinton would have excused himself immediately from reading to children and
went into immediate action. Immediate action. However, our very slow
president, who doesn't read newspapers, who was AWOL in his military service,
who was a cocaine abuser, along with alcoholic, who talks to God and who hears
God talk back...well, I would much prefer Clinton, either one of them, to be my
president.

Even he could have, it wouldn't have changed the fact of the attempt
itself. Bush didn't fly those planes, or order them to be flown into
the WTC. I don't see that he should bear the blame for that, or that
it absolves the attackers -- the enemy that you want to pretend don't
exist -- of the responsibility for these actions.
How old are you, anyway?
Old enough to vote and old enough not to confuse wishful thinking with
reality.

Swyck

Did you vote? I'm almost 48. I vote for everything including local City Council
seats, school board representatives, local and national general elections. I
didn't say we didn't have enemies. I said Osama Bin Laden was the man to find.
Have we found him yet? I thought we were going to "smoke 'em out." What
happened? Maybe he's with Nicole and Ron's real killers. Maybe O.J. will find
him.

Are you telling me that an administration which immediately removed the Saudi
family on jets the moment this happened is to be trusted? Did you know that
happened? Do you read anything, listen to anything other than that blathering
asshole Limbaugh or Hannity? It's probably time for you to start brushing up on
the truth...not these lies you are being told, sheepishly believing the words of
the biggest lie in our nations history. Wake up.


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Even I am totally shocked by the amount of lies told by this government and their
strident supporters. I believed Colin Powell much to my regret. Ingrid

escapee wrote:
Are you telling me that an administration which immediately removed the Saudi
family on jets the moment this happened is to be trusted? Did you know that
happened? Do you read anything, listen to anything other than that blathering
asshole Limbaugh or Hannity? It's probably time for you to start brushing up on
the truth...not these lies you are being told, sheepishly believing the words of
the biggest lie in our nations history. Wake up.


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