Ya!


On Tue, 18 May 2004 12:44:02 GMT, "Cereus-validus"
opined:

Not only that, the whole freaking Bin Laden clan are good friends of the
Bush family and the present administration.

Remember that there is no such thing as the tri-lateral commission and there
has been no government conspiracy cover-up.

"escapee" wrote in message
.. .
On 17 May 2004 15:31:17 GMT, (Jeffrey C. Dege)
opined:

On Mon, 17 May 2004 15:19:39 GMT, Cereus-validus
wrote:
Sorry Dude but nobody has officially declared war on anybody.

Sorry, but no.

Al Qaeda has most definitely declared war on us.

Bin Laden issued their declaration of war on videotape, on May 26, 1998.

You do know that Bin Laden is from Saudi Arabia, don't you? Have you
educated
yourself by reading anything on the subject?

http://www.animaux.net/stern/present.html

Start first by reading "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them." Then,
fill in
the spaces with "House of Saud." Now get goin'.

v

S, do you listen to Air America? If not, you simply must listen to Franken and
absolutely listen to Randi Rhodes. Holy shit! No sleep NPR type liberals
there.

In our house, we refer to the administration as the Bush Fedayeen.

v


On Tue, 18 May 2004 12:47:59 GMT, "Cereus-validus"
opined:

Not we. Its the present Republi-Nazi Bush administration playing the
American people for fools while making a fortune in the process.

Remember that there is no such thing as the tri-lateral commission and there
has been no government conspiracy cover-up.


"escapee" wrote in message
.. .
On 17 May 2004 17:12:46 GMT, (Jeffrey C. Dege)
opined:

Yes. And why we're doing what we're doing in Kuwait and Yemen and Syria
and Saudi Arabia and Jordan and Sudan and Pakistan anbd Afghanistan and
Morocco and the Phillipines.

It's all one problem and all one war.

Iraq is simply one front.

What are we doing in Saudi Arabia? Enlighten me.

On Tue, 18 May 2004 12:40:32 GMT, escapee
wrote:
On Mon, 17 May 2004 19:08:58 -0400, opined:
Have you forgotten the fall of the towers already? We didn't knock
them down all by our widdol sewewvs. How about the trains in spain,
the bombing of our embassies in Africa, not to mention numerous
hijackings, murders and bombings all around the world?

Uh, why is this a mantra sung over and over by people who haven't got a clue as
to what is actually going on? Did we forget about the Twin Towers? Not any time
soon. I used to live down the block from them in Tribecca. I have about 3
friends who currently still live down there.
It's also sung over and over again by people who do have a clue. A
lot of folks would just like it to go away as a bad memory.

Have you forgotten the terrorist attacks in the UK which have been going on for
generations? What about those people? Oh, the investigators must be working
with OJ to find Nicole and Ron's murderer.
Different set of terrorists, different war. Bad situation with little
willingness to work things out.
There is a world war going on that was started by islamic terrorists,
not us, and its being waged against everyone that does not buy into
their ignorant beliefs, again not just against us.

You mean Islamic fanatics. Islamic people, Muslims, are devout and lovely
people. They have deep beliefs and adhere to them. Unlike our dink for
president who claims we cannot kill babies, but it's okay to kill adults on
death row. Give ma a break.
You give me a break.

Those devout and lovely people show a lot of support for the
terrorists. There is little support there for peace and negotiations
and working out our differences in a civilized manner. Its nice to be
tolerant of others, commendable even, but here that tolerance flies in
the face of the evidence.

Where are the Muslim peace groups? Do any exist? If so they sure are
quiet.

I'm not sure what the second reference had to do with anything under
discussion. Focus.
Oh, and by the way, if gas goes to $5 dollars a gallon will you be
laughing about it all the way to the gas pump?
No.
Me neither.

Swyck

"escapee" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 16 May 2004 15:51:46 GMT, Strider opined:

WWIII started on 9/11/01, you pinhead. Bush is the only candidate
willing to win this war.

A vote for Kerry is a de facto vote for bin Laden.

Strider

Uh, the war started on 9-11-01 with Afghanistan, not Iraq. Get YOUR facts
straight. There is no winning a war on terrorism. That's as idiotic as this
war on drugs. Puleeze.

Isn't there an irony here that the war on terrorism in Afghanistan has
undermined the war on drugs since more poppies being cultivated
now in Afghanistan?

I'm still wondering whatever happened to the "Year of Al Franken"? He may
get his due yet!!! After all, who would know more about the Arabs are really
like than a Jew? Not to mention burning Bushes!!!

Finally that card carrying Republi-Nazi radio propagandist Flush Limbauger
has met his match!!!!


"escapee" wrote in message
...
S, do you listen to Air America? If not, you simply must listen to
Franken and
absolutely listen to Randi Rhodes. Holy shit! No sleep NPR type liberals
there.

In our house, we refer to the administration as the Bush Fedayeen.

v


On Tue, 18 May 2004 12:47:59 GMT, "Cereus-validus"

opined:

Not we. Its the present Republi-Nazi Bush administration playing the
American people for fools while making a fortune in the process.

Remember that there is no such thing as the tri-lateral commission and
there
has been no government conspiracy cover-up.


"escapee" wrote in message
.. .
On 17 May 2004 17:12:46 GMT, (Jeffrey C. Dege)
opined:

Yes. And why we're doing what we're doing in Kuwait and Yemen and
Syria
and Saudi Arabia and Jordan and Sudan and Pakistan anbd Afghanistan
and
Morocco and the Phillipines.

It's all one problem and all one war.

Iraq is simply one front.

What are we doing in Saudi Arabia? Enlighten me.

On Tue, 18 May 2004 12:09:21 -0400, opined:

It's also sung over and over again by people who do have a clue. A
lot of folks would just like it to go away as a bad memory.

I can assure you, most New Yorkers would like it to go away and be a bad memory.


Different set of terrorists, different war. Bad situation with little
willingness to work things out.

"War on Terrorism." How is it different?

You give me a break.

What do you need a break from? From the truth? From the facts? From what?
It's okay to kill people, but not if they are in cellular stage. It's okay to
fry people, but not okay to do stem cell research. What the ffffffff.

Those devout and lovely people show a lot of support for the
terrorists. There is little support there for peace and negotiations
and working out our differences in a civilized manner. Its nice to be
tolerant of others, commendable even, but here that tolerance flies in
the face of the evidence.

Please don't dump the "evidence" card when you don't also give me examples of
this evidence. How many Mulsims do you know? Ever talk to any? Do you know
anything about Islam? If so, what do you know about it. Ever read the Koran?
Do you know what it is?

Where are the Muslim peace groups? Do any exist? If so they sure are
quiet.

Where are the Christian peace groups? What a dumb question. So wait a minute,
if a Muslim doesn't stand on top of the Empire State Building, hanging from
their towels and scream PEACE PEACE PEACE, that means they are pro-terror? What
kind of logic do you have? You are quite a bigot.

Me neither.

Swyck

Get ready. It's coming.

Al Franken is not his match, Franken well exceeds the intellect (if that's what
you could call it) of Limbaugh. Limbaugh the junkie is shrill, lately. He's a
bigger moron than ever.

Rhodes, baby!

V


On Tue, 18 May 2004 17:35:27 GMT, "Cereus-validus"
opined:

I'm still wondering whatever happened to the "Year of Al Franken"? He may
get his due yet!!! After all, who would know more about the Arabs are really
like than a Jew? Not to mention burning Bushes!!!

Finally that card carrying Republi-Nazi radio propagandist Flush Limbauger
has met his match!!!!


"escapee" wrote in message
.. .
S, do you listen to Air America? If not, you simply must listen to
Franken and
absolutely listen to Randi Rhodes. Holy shit! No sleep NPR type liberals
there.

In our house, we refer to the administration as the Bush Fedayeen.

v


On Tue, 18 May 2004 12:47:59 GMT, "Cereus-validus"

opined:

Not we. Its the present Republi-Nazi Bush administration playing the
American people for fools while making a fortune in the process.

Remember that there is no such thing as the tri-lateral commission and
there
has been no government conspiracy cover-up.


"escapee" wrote in message
.. .
On 17 May 2004 17:12:46 GMT, (Jeffrey C. Dege)
opined:

Yes. And why we're doing what we're doing in Kuwait and Yemen and
Syria
and Saudi Arabia and Jordan and Sudan and Pakistan anbd Afghanistan
and
Morocco and the Phillipines.

It's all one problem and all one war.

Iraq is simply one front.

What are we doing in Saudi Arabia? Enlighten me.

escapee wrote in
:

Don't laugh, it's not too far from the reality. We rented the Orwell
film, 1984 last week. It's amazingly like what's trying to be forced
on us by our current administration. It seems the orgasm is evil and
mind control is the weapon. With a president who lives according to
what God tells him to do, we are not far from the films' premise.

The price of freedom is bondage ... if you are buying from Bush anyway.

"Duck Dog" wrote in message
...
On 17 May 2004 14:03:43 -0700, (Offbreed)
wrote:

"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
...
Go research yourself, you delusional Bunker-brained inbred
Republi-Nazi.

The Nazis were national socialists.

Well, that's what they called themselves, anyway.

Hitler started out as a one world
socialist, then realized that socialism would not work on a global
scale, so he added the nationalistic element.

Huh? His whole trip was racism, pure and simple. Non-nordic=bad. It
was quite simple.

Only in the eyes of unsophisticated youngsters. You are ignoring the fact
that he wasn't "Nordic" himself, nor were many of his generals.

However, when trying to control a large group of people, it is easier to
give them someone to hate, That is what nationalism is, it defines the "Us
and Them", Us=Good, Them=Bad.

Combine this with an internal enemy, and you can write your own ticket.
Hitler picked a group that was already disliked and built them up as an
evil, dangerous enemy.

To understand the motivations behind his actions you need to understand the
political and economic situation in Germany at the time he came to power.
Chronic inflation, Unemployment and shortages of everyday items. The only
people who seemed to be doing well were the jews, so there was resentment.

Incidently, the Government in the UK is currently trying the same con, to a
limited degree, using Terrorists as the outside evil, and Assylum seekers as
the internal one. Luckily, your average briton is either more sophisticated
than those berliners or more apathetic.

On Wed, 19 May 2004 10:45:25 +0100, "Jamie Hart"
opined:


Only in the eyes of unsophisticated youngsters. You are ignoring the fact
that he wasn't "Nordic" himself, nor were many of his generals.

Neither are most skinheads, but that doesn't stop them.

However, when trying to control a large group of people, it is easier to
give them someone to hate, That is what nationalism is, it defines the "Us
and Them", Us=Good, Them=Bad.

You mean like our current administration is doing?

Combine this with an internal enemy, and you can write your own ticket.
Hitler picked a group that was already disliked and built them up as an
evil, dangerous enemy.

Excuse me, he didn't only kill Jews. He killed people for myriad reasons, and
did torturous experimentation on countless thousands others.

To understand the motivations behind his actions you need to understand the
political and economic situation in Germany at the time he came to power.
Chronic inflation, Unemployment and shortages of everyday items. The only
people who seemed to be doing well were the jews, so there was resentment.

The man was mentally ill, as was an entire society. Fortunately for them, they
seem to have overcome their illness.

Incidently, the Government in the UK is currently trying the same con, to a
limited degree, using Terrorists as the outside evil, and Assylum seekers as
the internal one. Luckily, your average briton is either more sophisticated
than those berliners or more apathetic.


Hopefully Blair will realize what he did was not a good idea and pulls out in
June when the Iraqi people say "get out."

Did hitler or George bush have a garden or somthing how does this tie
into REC GARDENS? just curious or is this a forum on the marine
corps and their moto
"Blood makes the grass grow KILL KILL KILL"
I suppose that ties into gardening some how .....
:-)
How come the posts on this group that have nothing to do with
My husband is a marine so that's how I know that's their Moto.
On Tue, 18 May 2004 12:56:15 -0400, "eclectic"
wrote:


"escapee" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 16 May 2004 15:51:46 GMT, Strider opined:

WWIII started on 9/11/01, you pinhead. Bush is the only candidate
willing to win this war.

A vote for Kerry is a de facto vote for bin Laden.

Strider

Uh, the war started on 9-11-01 with Afghanistan, not Iraq. Get YOUR facts
straight. There is no winning a war on terrorism. That's as idiotic as this
war on drugs. Puleeze.

Isn't there an irony here that the war on terrorism in Afghanistan has
undermined the war on drugs since more poppies being cultivated
now in Afghanistan?

"Cereus-validus" wrote in message
...
Hmm, that's interesting that Blair is doing in England the same as Dubaya
is
doing here. The only problem is that Dubaya is too stupid to either
understand or appreciate that he is just a front man for the evil
republi-Nazi agenda of his daddy and his cronies.

So Who's he using as the Internal Enemy?

They are already working on a plan what to do with the disinterested
spoiled
youth. They will be reinstating the draft. Either the hip-hop punks will
learn to be good soldiers or they will be killed off by terrorists!!!
Gangsta rap meets the real world. Problem solved in the guise of
patriotism!!! It also solves the unemployment problem by killing off the
future unemployable!!! Word to yer mutha!

War is always a good way to get out of a recession, as long as you win. Or
maybe even if you don't but can make it last a while.

Ignore posts you are not interested in. No newsgroup is ever completely on
topic unless it is moderated. That being the case, currently world problems are
being led with great force of the US and since we are in the US, it is being
discussed. I have yet to see a newsgroup this year which does not have some
aspect of discussion regarding the current president and his corrupt
administration.


On Wed, 19 May 2004 19:57:19 -0400, Michelle opined:

Did hitler or George bush have a garden or somthing how does this tie
into REC GARDENS? just curious or is this a forum on the marine
corps and their moto
"Blood makes the grass grow KILL KILL KILL"
I suppose that ties into gardening some how .....
:-)
How come the posts on this group that have nothing to do with
My husband is a marine so that's how I know that's their Moto.
On Tue, 18 May 2004 12:56:15 -0400, "eclectic"
wrote:


"escapee" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 16 May 2004 15:51:46 GMT, Strider opined:

WWIII started on 9/11/01, you pinhead. Bush is the only candidate
willing to win this war.

A vote for Kerry is a de facto vote for bin Laden.

Strider

Uh, the war started on 9-11-01 with Afghanistan, not Iraq. Get YOUR facts
straight. There is no winning a war on terrorism. That's as idiotic as this
war on drugs. Puleeze.

Isn't there an irony here that the war on terrorism in Afghanistan has
undermined the war on drugs since more poppies being cultivated
now in Afghanistan?

I was sort of kidding hence the smiley face :- )

On Thu, 20 May 2004 12:24:42 GMT, escapee
wrote:

Ignore posts you are not interested in. No newsgroup is ever completely on
topic unless it is moderated. That being the case, currently world problems are
being led with great force of the US and since we are in the US, it is being
discussed. I have yet to see a newsgroup this year which does not have some
aspect of discussion regarding the current president and his corrupt
administration.


On Wed, 19 May 2004 19:57:19 -0400, Michelle opined:

Did hitler or George bush have a garden or somthing how does this tie
into REC GARDENS? just curious or is this a forum on the marine
corps and their moto
"Blood makes the grass grow KILL KILL KILL"
I suppose that ties into gardening some how .....
:-)
How come the posts on this group that have nothing to do with
My husband is a marine so that's how I know that's their Moto.
On Tue, 18 May 2004 12:56:15 -0400, "eclectic"
wrote:


"escapee" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 16 May 2004 15:51:46 GMT, Strider opined:

WWIII started on 9/11/01, you pinhead. Bush is the only candidate
willing to win this war.

A vote for Kerry is a de facto vote for bin Laden.

Strider

Uh, the war started on 9-11-01 with Afghanistan, not Iraq. Get YOUR facts
straight. There is no winning a war on terrorism. That's as idiotic as this
war on drugs. Puleeze.

Isn't there an irony here that the war on terrorism in Afghanistan has
undermined the war on drugs since more poppies being cultivated
now in Afghanistan?

"Michelle" wrote in message
...
Did hitler or George bush have a garden or somthing how does this tie
into REC GARDENS? just curious or is this a forum on the marine
corps and their moto
"Blood makes the grass grow KILL KILL KILL"
I suppose that ties into gardening some how .....
:-)
How come the posts on this group that have nothing to do with
My husband is a marine so that's how I know that's their Moto.

We have both responded to this thread while knowing that it
isn't really about gardening, and have even been off the subject of
this thread! :-)

Being the wife of a marine, are you able to maintain a garden of your
own? Just wondering if travel or living quarters make this difficult.
They really ought to have a service medal for the spouses of military
personnel. No joke.