expounded:

and be sure to look for Michael Moore's latest documentary Fahrenheit 9/11

Oh, yea, that reputable fact-finder. And if he can't find them, he
makes them up.

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On Mon, 24 May 2004 18:35:59 GMT, wrote:
yup....

http://www.airamericaradio.com/pub/globalDefault.htm

and be sure to look for Michael Moore's latest documentary Fahrenheit 9/11

Even I am totally shocked by the amount of lies told by this government and their
strident supporters. I believed Colin Powell much to my regret. Ingrid

Like I'll believe Moore's tall tales about anything. Both him and the
government are liars, but it doesn't look like we can vote Moore out
no matter how few people see his movies. All it takes is one or two
wealthy people to bankroll him.

escapee wrote:
Are you telling me that an administration which immediately removed the Saudi
family on jets the moment this happened is to be trusted? Did you know that
happened? Do you read anything, listen to anything other than that blathering
asshole Limbaugh or Hannity? It's probably time for you to start brushing up on
the truth...not these lies you are being told, sheepishly believing the words of
the biggest lie in our nations history. Wake up.

Didn't say I trusted them or even like them, but I like Muslim
extremists even less. At least the government doesn't want me dead as
long as I can pay taxes and do my duty as a consumer.

And I don't listen to Rush; that would be as bad as listening to
Moore. I guess that's one definition of a middle of the road
independent -- you can't stand either Moore or Rush.

Swyck

Ya know Ingrid, I'm truly not surprised. When the election in 2000 went the way
it went I knew back then we were in for the ride of our history. This
president has done more for our nation to be hated than all other president's
combined. Foreigners cannot stand the ugly American. And he, is an ugly
American.

Aside from all the lies, would anyone mind telling me why he was mountain biking
while our troops are being killed? Why is he anywhere other than at a friggin
desk or at a meeting or working on how to fix this blunder? Oh yeah, he's also
taken more vacation time than any other president in our history.

The administration is amazingly corrupt.

As for the Moore film, since when does the government control us to the point
that Disney will not distribute a film because their hands are tied due to all
the tax breaks they receive from Jeb? Are they friggin kidding me? First of
all, how much more wealthy does Disney have to get, second, how dare any
administration, state or federal, lay down laws about tax breaks, provided the
institution supports all the administration does.

Talk about "the man" of the sixties. Wow. I am completely amazed.


On Mon, 24 May 2004 18:35:59 GMT, opined:

yup....

http://www.airamericaradio.com/pub/globalDefault.htm

and be sure to look for Michael Moore's latest documentary Fahrenheit 9/11

Even I am totally shocked by the amount of lies told by this government and their
strident supporters. I believed Colin Powell much to my regret. Ingrid

escapee wrote:
Are you telling me that an administration which immediately removed the Saudi
family on jets the moment this happened is to be trusted? Did you know that
happened? Do you read anything, listen to anything other than that blathering
asshole Limbaugh or Hannity? It's probably time for you to start brushing up on
the truth...not these lies you are being told, sheepishly believing the words of
the biggest lie in our nations history. Wake up.


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On Mon, 24 May 2004 17:45:13 -0400, Ann opined:

expounded:

and be sure to look for Michael Moore's latest documentary Fahrenheit 9/11

Oh, yea, that reputable fact-finder. And if he can't find them, he
makes them up.

Start naming things he makes up.


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On Mon, 24 May 2004 18:25:51 -0400, opined:

Like I'll believe Moore's tall tales about anything. Both him and the
government are liars, but it doesn't look like we can vote Moore out
no matter how few people see his movies. All it takes is one or two
wealthy people to bankroll him.

Bowling for Columbine, his last film, made more money than any other documentary
in the history of life. I'd say there's no shortage of people who find him
quite credible. But since you say he lies, start naming the lies. What did he
lie about?

Didn't say I trusted them or even like them, but I like Muslim
extremists even less. At least the government doesn't want me dead as
long as I can pay taxes and do my duty as a consumer.

No, but if you're Disney, you better not distribute a film or we'll pull the
plug on your tax incentives. Yeah, that's what our nation is about. NOT.

And I don't listen to Rush; that would be as bad as listening to
Moore. I guess that's one definition of a middle of the road
independent -- you can't stand either Moore or Rush.

Swyck

I'll be waiting for all the lies you claim Moore has told.


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On Tue, 25 May 2004 12:42:07 GMT, escapee
wrote:

On Mon, 24 May 2004 18:25:51 -0400, opined:

Like I'll believe Moore's tall tales about anything. Both him and the
government are liars, but it doesn't look like we can vote Moore out
no matter how few people see his movies. All it takes is one or two
wealthy people to bankroll him.

Bowling for Columbine, his last film, made more money than any other documentary
in the history of life. I'd say there's no shortage of people who find him
quite credible. But since you say he lies, start naming the lies. What did he
lie about?

Didn't say I trusted them or even like them, but I like Muslim
extremists even less. At least the government doesn't want me dead as
long as I can pay taxes and do my duty as a consumer.

No, but if you're Disney, you better not distribute a film or we'll pull the
plug on your tax incentives. Yeah, that's what our nation is about. NOT.

And I don't listen to Rush; that would be as bad as listening to
Moore. I guess that's one definition of a middle of the road
independent -- you can't stand either Moore or Rush.

Swyck

I'll be waiting for all the lies you claim Moore has told.
Ok, here goes:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydispl...bsection=world
http://money.cnn.com/2004/05/05/news.../disney_moore/

And so on, and so on. Tales about Disney blocking his latest fantasy
due to some ties to tax credits and other paranoid delusions. All
soaked up by the gullible left. The facts are that Disney told him a
year ago to forget about distribution, not just days before Cannes as
was reported by Moore.

Got to give Moore credit. He's better at the big lie then most
politicians. And I'm not even going to get into the content of F911.

Of course, like most such topics, belief in the facts are based on
ideology, so it actually doesn't matter what really happened. The
Bush haters will take it all in just like the Clinton haters were
doing 5 years ago. New regime, same old same old.

Swyck

perhaps you havent considered that the attack on Iraq has made is incredibly less
safe. it took attention, troops, money away from tracking down Al Qaeda, and helping
friendly countries who ASKED for our help in ridding their countries of Al Qaeda. We
had tremendous sympathy and goodwill in most countries around the world which has now
been squandered. and finally, as hateful as Saddamn is, he also hated Al Qaeda, and
kept them out of his country (didnt want any competing terrorists or anybody telling
HIM what to do). No longer true, Iraq is now loaded with terrorists and Al Qaeda,.
Michael Moore is one of the most dedicated and supporter of working people out there.
He doesnt begin to come up to Lush Rambo's standards for harshness, and Moore does
not knowingly give out lies.... unlike Lush. Ingrid

wrote:
Didn't say I trusted them or even like them, but I like Muslim
extremists even less. At least the government doesn't want me dead as
long as I can pay taxes and do my duty as a consumer.

And I don't listen to Rush; that would be as bad as listening to
Moore. I guess that's one definition of a middle of the road
independent -- you can't stand either Moore or Rush.

Swyck



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what is amazing is he fell off the bike face first and then claimed he slipped in the
mud ..... of course this was a lie since they are saying it hadnt rained in that area
in the last 7 or 8 days. yeah, between his impatience for reading anything longer
than a 3x5 card and his vacations he really is an absentee landlord. sigh.
happily, Mirimax (bought by Disney) has sold rights to Weinstein (?) brothers who
will distribute it. I think Disney SAID they were afraid of Jebs pulling their tax
breaks, but the end result is media coverage that is extremely valuable for the film
.... and gotta give em credit, at least Disney didnt cover up the reason!!!
Ingrid

escapee wrote:
Aside from all the lies, would anyone mind telling me why he was mountain biking
while our troops are being killed?
Oh yeah, he's also
taken more vacation time than any other president in our history.
As for the Moore film, since when does the government control us to the point
that Disney will not distribute a film because their hands are tied due to all
the tax breaks they receive from Jeb? Are they friggin kidding me? First of
all, how much more wealthy does Disney have to get, second, how dare any
administration, state or federal, lay down laws about tax breaks, provided the
institution supports all the administration does.



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read the original article in its entirety
http://www.independent-media.tv/item...r%20Rep orted
Moore was quoted out of context, he actually made it clear he has been fighting
Disney for a year and Mirimax went against Disney in funding(?) Moore's newest film.
And Mirimax is not owned by Disney (contrary to broadcast media) .. it has some kind
of sponsorship (?).
Ingrid

wrote:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydispl...bsection=world
http://money.cnn.com/2004/05/05/news.../disney_moore/

And so on, and so on. Tales about Disney blocking his latest fantasy
due to some ties to tax credits and other paranoid delusions. All
soaked up by the gullible left. The facts are that Disney told him a
year ago to forget about distribution, not just days before Cannes as
was reported by Moore.

Got to give Moore credit. He's better at the big lie then most
politicians. And I'm not even going to get into the content of F911.


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On Tue, 25 May 2004 12:21:42 -0400, opined:


Ok, here goes:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydispl...bsection=world
http://money.cnn.com/2004/05/05/news.../disney_moore/

And so on, and so on. Tales about Disney blocking his latest fantasy
due to some ties to tax credits and other paranoid delusions. All
soaked up by the gullible left. The facts are that Disney told him a
year ago to forget about distribution, not just days before Cannes as
was reported by Moore.

Got to give Moore credit. He's better at the big lie then most
politicians. And I'm not even going to get into the content of F911.

No, please do get into the content of F 9-11.

Of course, like most such topics, belief in the facts are based on
ideology, so it actually doesn't matter what really happened. The
Bush haters will take it all in just like the Clinton haters were
doing 5 years ago. New regime, same old same old.

Swyck



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escapee expounded:

On Mon, 24 May 2004 17:45:13 -0400, Ann opined:

expounded:

and be sure to look for Michael Moore's latest documentary Fahrenheit 9/11

Oh, yea, that reputable fact-finder. And if he can't find them, he
makes them up.

Start naming things he makes up.


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Oh, like claiming lifemembership in the NRA, when he joined just two
weeks prior. Stuff like that. He isn't reputable. And I am not
going to continue to argue about it. He has an agenda, just like any
radical has....and there are radicals on both sides of the spectrum.

Now defend him if you'd like. Makes no difference to me.

--
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Just south of Boston, MA
********************************

expounded:

what is amazing is he fell off the bike face first and then claimed he slipped in the
mud

What is even mor amazing is Kerry's response...."What, did his
training wheels fall off?" Of course, not one word was said when he
fell off his bike about his maturity.

What's even more amazing is you can turn a fall off a bike into a vast
right-winged conspiracy. Ya.

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Just south of Boston, MA
********************************

This was referring to a comment Bush made about Iraq and training wheels. it didnt
come outta the blue.
no conspiracy ... inability to tell the truth in the most minor of circumstances.
Ingrid

Ann wrote:

expounded:

what is amazing is he fell off the bike face first and then claimed he slipped in the
mud

What is even mor amazing is Kerry's response...."What, did his
training wheels fall off?" Of course, not one word was said when he
fell off his bike about his maturity.

What's even more amazing is you can turn a fall off a bike into a vast
right-winged conspiracy. Ya.



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" I can guarantee to you, without equivocation, that every fact in my movie is true.
Three teams of fact-checkers and two groups of lawyers went through it with a fine
tooth comb to make sure that every statement of fact is indeed an indisputable fact.
Trust me, no film company would ever release a film like this without putting it
through the most vigorous vetting process possible. The sheer power and threat of the
NRA is reason enough to strike fear in any movie studio or theater chain. The NRA
will go after you without mercy if they think there's half a chance of destroying
you. That's why we don't have better gun laws in this country – every member of
Congress is scared to death of them.

Well, guess what. Total number of lawsuits to date against me or my film by the NRA?
NONE. That's right, zero. And don't forget for a second that if they could have shut
this film down on a technicality they would have. But they didn't and they can't –
because the film is factually solid and above reproach. In fact, we have not been
sued by any individual or group over the statements made in "Bowling for Columbine?"
Why is that? Because everything we say is true – and the things that are our opinion,
we say so and leave it up to the viewer to decide if our point of view is correct or
not for each of them.

So, faced with a thoroughly truthful and honest film, those who object to the film's
political points are left with the choice of debating us on the issues in the film –
or resorting to character assassination. They have chosen the latter. What a sad
place to be. "
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/wackoattacko/

Ann wrote:

escapee expounded:

On Mon, 24 May 2004 17:45:13 -0400, Ann opined:

expounded:

and be sure to look for Michael Moore's latest documentary Fahrenheit 9/11

Oh, yea, that reputable fact-finder. And if he can't find them, he
makes them up.

Start naming things he makes up.


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Oh, like claiming lifemembership in the NRA, when he joined just two
weeks prior. Stuff like that. He isn't reputable. And I am not
going to continue to argue about it. He has an agenda, just like any
radical has....and there are radicals on both sides of the spectrum.

Now defend him if you'd like. Makes no difference to me.



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