K Barrett ) wrote:
: Yeah, I have trouble with them too. (the Vascostylises) I'll try Kenni's
: air-layering tehnique and see if this works. I've been tempted to try it in
: the past, and just to chicken or lazy to proceed.

Thanks Kay. I'm thinking about hitting mine a little harder and longer with
the Superthrive. The poor thing has almost no roots and basically hasn't
grown any since I got it a couple of years ago.

I'm tempted to just pot the thing up in Aliflor since that seems to work so
well but I'm out of counter space. So if it comes down, something's gotta go
up (as in hanging in a basket or on a mount)!

: Fingers crossed

Yea verily.

Dave

In article ,
says...
Bryan ) wrote:
: Hi Kenni:

: I am in Western Canada, Vancouver more specifically. Weather is very much
: like Seattle . I have my orchids growing in an enclosed balconey. Humidity
: ranges from 45-75%, thanks to a aquarium close by. Temp ranges from 80 to 60
: degrees. Lighting is by a North window and supplementd by a 400 watt Metal
: Halide.

Bryan,

I grow Vandas indoors like you and I have a couple of them potted up in
Aliflor (which is an expanded clay product). The Aliflor holds just the
right amount of moisture around the roots so they don't rot. It's difficult
to provide the quantity of moisture they need when mounted in a basket
indoors. I have a couple of Vandas that are in baskets and they are a lot
harder to maintain than the potted ones. Root development is significantly
greater in the potted Vandas versus the ones in baskets.

Dave


Dave, can you post pics on ABPO? Are they in actual pots, or in
something airier? Gee, I hope you are still online, 'cause I am too
curious to wait until you wake up!!! I need a solution for mine!
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--
Reka

This is LIFE! It's not a rehearsal. Don't miss it!
http://www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html

I think that might depend on which and how much Rhynchostylis is in the
ancestry. Rhy. gigantea is one that find does better in pots with medium
than bare in the basket. Kenni

"Dave Sheehy" wrote in message
...
Kenni Judd ) wrote:
: Hi, K: Although most of our vandaceous are grown without medium, there
are
: few that seem to need a little. I've not grown V. Paki, so can't speak
: specifically to that one, but I would not recommend heavy feeding for
any
: "sick" plant. Humidity, yes, the more the better, and a root stimulant
: would not be a bad thing.

Hi Kenni,

I have the same problem as Kay except it's with a Vascostylus and not a
Vanda.
I sprayed it with a single application of Superthrive but nothing
happened.
That's been a successful trick I've used in the past on other orchids to
stimulate root development but it didn't work here. It seems like applying
the Superthrive for a longer period of time is what has worked for you.

I'm also wondering if there's anything unique about Vascostylus
culture-wise
that distinguishes them from other Vandids? It sure seems a lot more
stubborn
than my other Vandas and Ascdas.

Dave

Bryan: There are lots of culture sites out there, and of course everyone
has their own ways of doing things. But what works for us is posted at
http://www.jborchids.com/culture.html
--
Kenni Judd
Juno Beach Orchids
http://www.jborchids.com


"Bryan" wrote in message
news:767_e.555391$5V4.132327@pd7tw3no...
Thanks Kenni:

I didn't realize "spray the roots until they turn green" great tip.
Humidity probably averages around 60%, probably more that winter is coming
since I will have the window closed all the time, so i think I will
experiment hanging without baskets.

Reka ) wrote:
: In article ,
: says...
: Bryan ) wrote:
: : Hi Kenni:
:
: : I am in Western Canada, Vancouver more specifically. Weather is very much
: : like Seattle . I have my orchids growing in an enclosed balconey. Humidity
: : ranges from 45-75%, thanks to a aquarium close by. Temp ranges from 80 to 60
: : degrees. Lighting is by a North window and supplementd by a 400 watt Metal
: : Halide.
:
: Bryan,
:
: I grow Vandas indoors like you and I have a couple of them potted up in
: Aliflor (which is an expanded clay product). The Aliflor holds just the
: right amount of moisture around the roots so they don't rot. It's difficult
: to provide the quantity of moisture they need when mounted in a basket
: indoors. I have a couple of Vandas that are in baskets and they are a lot
: harder to maintain than the potted ones. Root development is significantly
: greater in the potted Vandas versus the ones in baskets.
:
: Dave
:
:
: Dave, can you post pics on ABPO?

I can't. I do have a digital camera so I can easily get an image. I just have
to figure out how to get it somewhere where folks can view it. Does anyone
know how the Nikkon photo upload site works? I'm currently using the Nikkon
SW to upload my pictures to my PC and it can upload from there to the Nikkon
web site. Not having performed the latter I just don't know how well that part
works. Hopefully it doesn't work like Snapfish which requires you to supply
a distribution list of folks you want to share your photos with.

: Are they in actual pots, or in
: something airier? Gee, I hope you are still online, 'cause I am too
: curious to wait until you wake up!!! I need a solution for mine!

They are in regular (as in non-orchid) glazed ceramic pots so they aren't
airy at all. I mixed a small amount of CHC (for moisture retention) in with
the Aliflor but based on my examination of the interior of the mix it's not
needed and I will eliminate it next time around.

Dave

In article ,
says...

Thanks, Dave. And where are you and where are the orchids? Under lights,
windowsill, what? What's your average RH?
--
--
Reka

This is LIFE! It's not a rehearsal. Don't miss it!
http://www.rolbox.it/hukari/index.html

Reply to Kenni rooting my V Paki, OK I've air layered the stem with
moss, fingers crossed this'll work. (betting it will). Thanks for kicking
me in the butt to try this technique, LOL!

K Barrett

Kenni Judd ) wrote:
: I think that might depend on which and how much Rhynchostylis is in the
: ancestry. Rhy. gigantea is one that find does better in pots with medium
: than bare in the basket. Kenni

It's Vascostylis Nong Kham 'viroj' from Kawamoto Orchids.

Dave

: "Dave Sheehy" wrote in message
: ...
: Kenni Judd ) wrote:
: : Hi, K: Although most of our vandaceous are grown without medium, there
: are
: : few that seem to need a little. I've not grown V. Paki, so can't speak
: : specifically to that one, but I would not recommend heavy feeding for
: any
: : "sick" plant. Humidity, yes, the more the better, and a root stimulant
: : would not be a bad thing.
:
: Hi Kenni,
:
: I have the same problem as Kay except it's with a Vascostylus and not a
: Vanda.
: I sprayed it with a single application of Superthrive but nothing
: happened.
: That's been a successful trick I've used in the past on other orchids to
: stimulate root development but it didn't work here. It seems like applying
: the Superthrive for a longer period of time is what has worked for you.
:
: I'm also wondering if there's anything unique about Vascostylus
: culture-wise
: that distinguishes them from other Vandids? It sure seems a lot more
: stubborn
: than my other Vandas and Ascdas.
:
: Dave
:

Reka ) wrote:
: In article ,
: says...

: Thanks, Dave. And where are you and where are the orchids? Under lights,
: windowsill, what? What's your average RH?

OK, here we go. I signed up at a photo hosting site and have managed to
upload a bunch of pictures to it. This being the first time I've used this
service I learned a couple of things along the way. It turns out the last
photo uploaded is the 1st photo listed in the album and I of course uploaded
them in the order I wanted to present them in so it's bassackwards on the site.
I also created an 'Orchids' sub-album but the photos didn't end up there
so ignore it because it's empty.

Anyway, there's a picture of one of my primary orchid window where I keep the
majority of my orchids. Next, is a photo series of the Vanda potted in Aliflor
showing the root structure. Second, there is a similar photo series of the
Ascda Lenachai. Finally, there is a picture each of a Vanda in a basket and
my poor pitiful Vascostylis.

I only use natural light and RH varies between 40-60%.

Dave

Dave Sheehy ) wrote:
: OK, here we go. I signed up at a photo hosting site and have managed to
: upload a bunch of pictures to it.

Do you think it would help if I supplied the URL? I thought so, here it is:

http://photobucket.com/albums/b250/dbsheehy/

Dave