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Anti-Frog People Strike Again
As some of you know, I have neighbors that don't like my frogs.
This spring I've been vigilant about keeping the population down to no more than 2-3 frogs before I go out and catch them. These neighbors have been gone most of spring break and knowing they would return today I caught all but 1 last night. During the night at least 1 or 2 joined it, which I'll catch tonight. Unfortunately my compromise isn't working. One of the frogs decided to croak during the day and I got "the complaint" e-mail. I was sent: "Once again the noise level is such that it is affecting my ability to sleep at night and to relax during the day and evening." And they HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN THERE!!! And only ONE frog was croaking!!! Not a whole chorus. And that is SO abnormal for them to croak during the day anyway. Needless to say, I no longer find the joy in my frogs thanks to these sh*tty neighbors, so I guess it will be no more frogs for me, if I can prevent them. :-( ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us |
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~ jan wrote: As some of you know, I have neighbors that don't like my frogs. This spring I've been vigilant about keeping the population down to no more than 2-3 frogs before I go out and catch them. These neighbors have been gone most of spring break and knowing they would return today I caught all but 1 last night. During the night at least 1 or 2 joined it, which I'll catch tonight. Unfortunately my compromise isn't working. One of the frogs decided to croak during the day and I got "the complaint" e-mail. I was sent: "Once again the noise level is such that it is affecting my ability to sleep at night and to relax during the day and evening." And they HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN THERE!!! And only ONE frog was croaking!!! Not a whole chorus. And that is SO abnormal for them to croak during the day anyway. Needless to say, I no longer find the joy in my frogs thanks to these sh*tty neighbors, so I guess it will be no more frogs for me, if I can prevent them. :-( ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us Reminds me of an upscale area next to State Park out here in Ventura County. Ranger told me that one wealthy idiot who lives in big bux home has been raising hell with Park Service to get owls removed from park because they keep him up at night. -- To reply by email, remove the word "space" |
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Anti-Frog People Strike Again
Wildlife can be so darned annoying! At least owls, in the US, are protected. First thing, when jan's neighbors piped up, I tried to find out if our native frogs were endangered. They aren't. rats! Today DH took the labradors hiking on a sage brushy open area and came home early. Too warm, too windy? No, he came across his second rattlesnake and decided that he, and the dogs, were pushing their luck. k :-) |
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Kurt wrote:
Reminds me of an upscale area next to State Park out here in Ventura County. Ranger told me that one wealthy idiot who lives in big bux home has been raising hell with Park Service to get owls removed from park because they keep him up at night. So many idiots, so little ammunition... I _can_ understand how owls could be annoying. Every year except last year we've had Saw-whet owls. Saw-whets emit a 1/2 second "G" about every 1 or 2 seconds (like katydids, frequency seems to be related to temperature). They could get on your nerves, I guess, but last year I didn't hear a single one, and I miss them. -- derek - Unless otherwise noted, I speak for myself, not rec.ponds.moderated moderators. |
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In article .com,
"kthirtya" wrote: Wildlife can be so darned annoying! At least owls, in the US, are protected. First thing, when jan's neighbors piped up, I tried to find out if our native frogs were endangered. They aren't. rats! Today DH took the labradors hiking on a sage brushy open area and came home early. Too warm, too windy? No, he came across his second rattlesnake and decided that he, and the dogs, were pushing their luck. k :-) Just the thought that many people expect urban environment in a rural settings is annoying enough, but money talks in so many places. -- To reply by email, remove the word "space" |
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Anti-Frog People Strike Again
On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 18:41:36 CST, Kurt wrote:
Reminds me of an upscale area next to State Park out here in Ventura County. Ranger told me that one wealthy idiot who lives in big bux home has been raising hell with Park Service to get owls removed from park because they keep him up at night. AhMazing! I hope the Ranger laughed. ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds: www.jjspond.us |
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Anti-Frog People Strike Again
~ jan wrote:
As some of you know, I have neighbors that don't like my frogs. This spring I've been vigilant about keeping the population down to no more than 2-3 frogs before I go out and catch them. These neighbors have been gone most of spring break and knowing they would return today I caught all but 1 last night. During the night at least 1 or 2 joined it, which I'll catch tonight. Unfortunately my compromise isn't working. One of the frogs decided to croak during the day and I got "the complaint" e-mail. I was sent: "Once again the noise level is such that it is affecting my ability to sleep at night and to relax during the day and evening." And they HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN THERE!!! And only ONE frog was croaking!!! Not a whole chorus. And that is SO abnormal for them to croak during the day anyway. Needless to say, I no longer find the joy in my frogs thanks to these sh*tty neighbors, so I guess it will be no more frogs for me, if I can prevent them. :-( ~ jan That sucks. Out of curiosity, what happens if you can't catch all the frogs? It's nice to have good relationships with neighbors, but it sounds like they're asking for something that's almost impossible. -- My other fish and pond forum is: http://groups.google.com/group/The-Freshwater-Aquarium Did you read the FAQ? http://faq.thekrib.com |
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Anti-Frog People Strike Again
you need to make the case for those frogs holding down the mosquito and fly
populations. they are fighting West Nile Virus, etc. Ingrid |
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Anti-Frog People Strike Again
I used to net Saw-Whets in fall at the field station (for banding). They
are the cutest little owls on earth. They had to pat met down before I left to make sure I wasnt trying to smuggle one home. well some people pay bocu bucks for their "nature sound" machine so they can get to sleep. I think some people are miserable and like to spread their misery around. Ingrid "Derek Broughton" wrote in message ... . Every year except last year we've had Saw-whet owls. Saw-whets emit a 1/2 second "G" about every 1 or 2 seconds (like katydids, frequency seems to be related to temperature). They could get on your nerves, I guess, but last year I didn't hear a single one, and I miss them. |
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Anti-Frog People Strike Again
On Apr 8, 11:27 pm, ~ jan wrote:
On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 18:41:36 CST, Kurt wrote: Reminds me of an upscale area next to State Park out here in Ventura County. Ranger told me that one wealthy idiot who lives in big bux home has been raising hell with Park Service to get owls removed from park because they keep him up at night. AhMazing! I hope the Ranger laughed. ~ jan ------------ Zone 7a, SE Washington State Ponds:www.jjspond.us Too bad about the neighbors. Our pond was just warming up at night when this cold front came it. Our Fowler's toads are doing their calling thing! Crickets on speed. Once they get going, we are talking 5-20 at a time...just outside the bedroom. It is sort of like a train...you get used to it. Too bad your neighbors haven't. Jim |
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Anti-Frog People Strike Again
This spring I've been vigilant about keeping the population down to no more than 2-3 frogs before I go out and catch them. These neighbors have been gone most of spring break and knowing they would return today I caught all but 1 last night. During the night at least 1 or 2 joined it, which I'll catch tonight. Unfortunately my compromise isn't working. One of the frogs decided to croak during the day and I got "the complaint" e-mail. I was sent: "Once again the noise level is such that it is affecting my ability to sleep at night and to relax during the day and evening." And they HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN THERE!!! And only ONE frog was croaking!!! Not a whole chorus. And that is SO abnormal for them to croak during the day anyway. Needless to say, I no longer find the joy in my frogs thanks to these sh*tty neighbors, so I guess it will be no more frogs for me, if I can prevent them. :-( ~ jan I find it really hard to believe you net all your frogs and relocate them on an ongoing basis just to appease your snooty neighbours. Have you asked the police or wildlife people if you have any rights in this regard , or has this already been visited by you or your 'neighbour'. As far as keeping the peace with them, I doubt that's possible. After they get their way on this, they will be bolder with the next complaint BTW - Didn't your son or sons have a band at one time - how did the neighbour deal with that?? Gale :~) |
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Anti-Frog People Strike Again
"Phyllis and Jim" wrote in message ups.com... Our pond was just warming up at night when this cold front came it. Our Fowler's toads are doing their calling thing! Crickets on speed. Once they get going, we are talking 5-20 at a time...just outside the bedroom. It is sort of like a train...you get used to it. Too bad your neighbors haven't. =================== I'm wondering how Jan's neighbors tolerate the cicadas, birds and crickets of summer?!?!?! Spring and summer are the time of life and life isn't silent. How sad they can't just enjoy the sounds of nature. If I had neighbors like that I'd be in deep trouble because we can't get rid of the bullfrogs. For every one I haul off to the lake another shows up to take his place. The only reason I remove them is they eat the smaller koi and goldfish. The rest of the toads and froggies out there are music to my ears (as long as they're not under my bedroom window.) -- RM.... Frugal ponding since 1995. rec.ponder since late 1996. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 Zone 6. Middle TN USA ISP: Hughes.net ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö |
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Anti-Frog People Strike Again
That was me, Gale, that hosted a band for
three years. My neighbors are all saintly, they have no problem with tree frogs, renegade bullfrogs and hordes of teenagers. We did soundproof the familyroom windows and that helped a lot. We also handed out free cds from the boys and when the newspaper came to interview them we praised our neighbors in print. The band is scattered to colleges from NY to Arizona now and we miss them. But we don't miss the noise! k :-) |
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Anti-Frog People Strike Again (going OT)
That was me, Gale, that hosted a band for
three years. My neighbors are all saintly, they have no problem with tree frogs, renegade bullfrogs and hordes of teenagers. We did soundproof the familyroom windows and that helped a lot. We also handed out free cds from the boys and when the newspaper came to interview them we praised our neighbors in print. The band is scattered to colleges from NY to Arizona now and we miss them. But we don't miss the noise! I must be losing it - I thought one of Jan's sons was in a band - I knew you talked about it and assumed it was the same band Anywho - You did a very good job of pre-emptive damage control (probably a little late for Jan) Gale :~) |
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Anti-Frog People Strike Again
Hi Jan..
Hmm.., is this possibly a question of so called "Good neighbourhood"..? Or does it have any *legal* background relating to your *special* location (or situation)..? -- cu Marco |
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